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post 1697407133 02-04-2024, 11:19 AM
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Libertarians slowly starting to admit Karl Marx was right

This was on LewRockwell, a hardcore libertarian site.


Starting to finally come to terms with capitalism being a evil system of slavery and exploitation.


Getting the first part, now only to come to terms with the second part.


Just lol @ cuckservatives


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https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/02/...asino-economy/


Karl Marx said at least one valuable thing. Workers of the world do need to unite, and lose their chains. If our brand of chrony capitalism doesn’t exploit workers, it certainly doesn’t value or respect them. Real pay and benefits for the vast majority of American workers have fallen precipitously over the past several decades.


Huey Long is my political hero for many reasons. He was advocating a thirty hour, even perhaps a twenty hour work week, in the early 1930s. He wanted all workers to be guaranteed a month’s vacation. Thanks to pressure from him, the best part of the New Deal was the 1938 legislation passed that created the forty hour work week, overtime and vacation pay, and opened the door to tangible benefits for lower paid employees in all industries. My grandfather, who died in 1930, was typical of his era. He worked seven days a week, 365 days a year, as a security guard. They let him go home for lunch on Christmas Day. Worked his entire life without going to the beach, or anywhere else. Stricken with cancer, he had to toil until the end because there was no sick leave.




"I am a rational animal who occupies the intermediary position between angel and beast"

"The upper class is afforded their position by the collective burden the underclass must carry for them"


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post 1697408063 02-04-2024, 11:43 AM
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Libertarians, cuckservatives, communists, and liberals have one thing in common:


They're all cucked trash
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So OP went from being a socialist to being a Communist???
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
So OP went from being a socialist to being a Communist???
Whichever way the wind blows
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This article says the working class needs to band together to improve their effective wages by eliminating all federal bureaucracies and enforce immigration laws

Opies take: omg he loves marxism!

Might be time to check back into rehab
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idk how anyone living in 2024 America thinks unchecked capitalism has been a good thing.

leads to government and corporations being best buddies at the expense of the common people.

governments serve corporations who only want to profit off the people. thats where we are...
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
This article says the working class needs to band together to improve their effective wages by eliminating all federal bureaucracies and enforce immigration laws

Opies take: omg he loves marxism!

Might be time to check back into rehab
Where did I say he loves Marxism? Maybe improve on your reading comprehension?


Lolbertarians hate workers, and endorse lower wages and poverty in the name of the capitalist.


What the author seems to be going through is a slow change in thinking.
"I am a rational animal who occupies the intermediary position between angel and beast"

"The upper class is afforded their position by the collective burden the underclass must carry for them"


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post 1697412283 02-04-2024, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
This article says the working class needs to band together to improve their effective wages by eliminating all federal bureaucracies and enforce immigration laws

Opies take: omg he loves marxism!

Might be time to check back into rehab
OP would love nothing more than to see everyone in the country as miserable as himself...
Hey Timmy, show us on the boy doll where the tampon goes...
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Originally Posted By Fishman15⏩
OP would love nothing more than to see everyone in the country as miserable as himself...
Bro, you said Trump is your king lmao.


Cuck.


The quote wasn't even addressed. The author was endorsing the New Deal.
"I am a rational animal who occupies the intermediary position between angel and beast"

"The upper class is afforded their position by the collective burden the underclass must carry for them"


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post 1697412613 02-04-2024, 01:25 PM
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Lmao

Libertarians are by definition completely incapable of understanding the need for restrictions on freedoms that are a requirement for putting a check on corporations and influential individuals.

They are likely against things such as monopoly laws etc..


So it makes sense they would be completely clueless on the cracks in the realization of a communist system based on Marx philosophies. Like they don’t even understand the need for basic protections against exploitation in a capitalist system they live in.

So it’s logical they wouldn’t seek any understanding on why all the communist systems end up abusing power for an authoritarian govt much like capitalism allows the same expansion of power for successful companies

Gonna rofl at humans when we finally realize a monarchy with a capable and moral ruler is in fact the best form of governance.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Lmao

Libertarians are by definition completely incapable of understanding the need for restrictions on freedoms that are a requirement for putting a check on corporations and influential individuals.

They are likely against things such as monopoly laws etc..


So it makes sense they would be completely clueless on the cracks in the realization of a communist system based on Marx philosophies. Like they don’t even understand the need for basic protections against exploitation in a capitalist system they live in.

So it’s logical they wouldn’t seek any understanding on why all the communist systems end up abusing power for an authoritarian govt much like capitalism allows the same expansion of power for successful companies

Gonna rofl at humans when we finally realize a monarchy with a capable and moral ruler is in fact the best form of governance.
Any examples of a moral monarch?
"I am a rational animal who occupies the intermediary position between angel and beast"

"The upper class is afforded their position by the collective burden the underclass must carry for them"


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post 1697413733 02-04-2024, 01:58 PM
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Anarchism also rejects capitalism.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Lmao

Libertarians are by definition completely incapable of understanding the need for restrictions on freedoms that are a requirement for putting a check on corporations and influential individuals.

They are likely against things such as monopoly laws etc..


So it makes sense they would be completely clueless on the cracks in the realization of a communist system based on Marx philosophies. Like they don’t even understand the need for basic protections against exploitation in a capitalist system they live in.

So it’s logical they wouldn’t seek any understanding on why all the communist systems end up abusing power for an authoritarian govt much like capitalism allows the same expansion of power for successful companies

Gonna rofl at humans when we finally realize a monarchy with a capable and moral ruler is in fact the best form of governance.
I think capable and moral ruler is the most important aspects moreso than the family lineage aspect of monarchy. Although a monarchy would be 100% better than any democracy in the world today. There's a reason much of our history had monarchy rule for long periods of time.

Whatever allows the most capable people to reach the positions they would do best in is the ideal type of society, and our most recent example of this was Nazi Germany.
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The only time Karl Marx ever did something right was when his heart decided to stop beating.
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Originally Posted By fitnessislife⏩
The only time Karl Marx ever did something right was when his heart decided to stop beating.
Thanks for the insight.


And noted lol.
"I am a rational animal who occupies the intermediary position between angel and beast"

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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Lmao

Libertarians are by definition completely incapable of understanding the need for restrictions on freedoms that are a requirement for putting a check on corporations and influential individuals.

They are likely against things such as monopoly laws etc..


So it makes sense they would be completely clueless on the cracks in the realization of a communist system based on Marx philosophies. Like they don’t even understand the need for basic protections against exploitation in a capitalist system they live in.

So it’s logical they wouldn’t seek any understanding on why all the communist systems end up abusing power for an authoritarian govt much like capitalism allows the same expansion of power for successful companies

Gonna rofl at humans when we finally realize a monarchy with a capable and moral ruler is in fact the best form of governance.
This is a common misconception. Libertarians, especially full ancaps like lew, are very in favor of providing rules and regulations. Just not from the state. Your point of view is fundamentally the same as people who think being against communist healthcare means you think there should be no healthcare
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
I think capable and moral ruler is the most important aspects moreso than the family lineage aspect of monarchy. Although a monarchy would be 100% better than any democracy in the world today. There's a reason much of our history had monarchy rule for long periods of time.

Whatever allows the most capable people to reach the positions they would do best in is the ideal type of society, and our most recent example of this was Nazi Germany.
Think people, this guy would have sided with the Loyalists in 1776.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
This is a common misconception. Libertarians, especially full ancaps like lew, are very in favor of providing rules and regulations. Just not from the state. Your point of view is fundamentally the same as people who think being against communist healthcare means you think there should be no healthcare
Yea, you want the monopolist to provide rules and regulations, and that is what we have today. That is neoliberalism, and why we live in a debt ridden economy that only benefits the rentier class, while the middle class dies out.


Also, that is why the article I posted in the OP praised the ND.


Lolbertariain ideology is a joke, and anyone who advocates it knows it. That is why you support big deficit spenders like Drumpffffff.
"I am a rational animal who occupies the intermediary position between angel and beast"

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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Any examples of a moral monarch?
Debatable if they were "Monarchs" per se but that dude from Singapore post-independence and Tito from Yugoslavia are good examples of benevolent dictators.
Republicans are weak men who pretend to be strong

Democrats are strong men who pretend to be weak
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
So OP went from being a socialist to being a Communist???
Trumper to marxist. Quite the spectacle.
See you tomorrow
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Originally Posted By Pterodactyl314⏩
Trumper to marxist. Quite the spectacle.
Trump actually gave away massive amounts of printed money, while production stopped on his watch.

I'm wondering what you guys actually consider him? A free market libertarian.
"I am a rational animal who occupies the intermediary position between angel and beast"

"The upper class is afforded their position by the collective burden the underclass must carry for them"


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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Yea, you want the monopolist to provide rules and regulations, and that is what we have today. That is neoliberalism, and why we live in a debt ridden economy that only benefits the rentier class, while the middle class dies out.


Also, that is why the article I posted in the OP praised the ND.


Lolbertariain ideology is a joke, and anyone who advocates it knows it. That is why you support big deficit spenders like Drumpffffff.
Cringe

What we have right now is a monopoly stupid
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