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02-17-2024, 08:24 AM
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Did they call him a stupid "N-Word" yet?
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
This seems to be the paper he was referencingI like the Vid - link to paper?
https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/pu...lice-use-force
02-17-2024, 08:56 AM
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Thugs attacking a man who told the truth. What a bunch of garbage people.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Well the cheating plagiarizing Harvard president who was the only president to not be a published author like, ever. Went on a long witch hunt trying to dismiss him over his research.Did they call him a stupid "N-Word" yet?
https://www.newsweek.com/claudine-ga...pinion-1855912
“You may excuse this heartless termination as a one-off. You would be wrong. Economics Professor Roland G. Fryer, Jr. was next in the sights of Dean Gay. Fryer was a top Black professor at Harvard. After having overcome all sorts of hardship and childhood deprivation, Professor Fryer joined the faculty at Harvard to become the second-youngest professor ever to be awarded tenure at Harvard, and went on to blaze a trail of distinction, including winning the MacArthur Fellowship and the John Bates Clark Medal.
Yet when Fryer undertook research into the killings of unarmed Black men in Houston, Fryer's research found no racial disparities. He made the mistake of undercutting the racial narrative that the Left has adopted, and as a result, Gay did her best to remove all of his academic privileges, coordinating a witch hunt against him. Fryer survived Gay's crusade of discharge but Fryer's lab was shut down, his reputation tarnished“
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Originally Posted By Fang2⏩
That's what they do in N Korea if the scientists find something that goes against the state and what Kim Jung Un says.Thugs attacking a man who told the truth. What a bunch of garbage people.
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"How did Ms. Gay rise so far despite such a mediocre academic record? You already know how, or at least part of how. Ms. Gay is a woman of color, and within the liberal ivory tower of Harvard, it’s impermissible for a White professor to accuse a woman of color of being intellectually mediocre. Only a Black professor could possibly do that.
It’s interesting, then, thatMs. Gay’s institutional rise was marked by a pattern of destroying the careers of genuinely brilliant Black scholars who had the stature to point out her mediocrity.
Harvard economist Roland Fryer, for example, has published more in a single year than Ms. Gay has in her entire career. But while serving as the dean of faculty, Ms. Gay led the charge to strip Mr. Fryer of almost all of his academic privileges on trumped-up charges of having run an office with a hostile work environment.
As documentary filmmaker Rob Muntz put it, “Fryer was the victim of a coordinated professional assassination. And … the chief architect of that assassination was none other than Claudine Gay.”
Another target of Ms. Gay’s character assassination was Ronald Sullivan, a Black professor at Harvard Law School. In addition to being an accomplished law professor, Mr. Sullivan was dean of Winthrop House, one of Harvard’s residence halls. After Mr. Sullivan agreed to serve as an attorney to help defend Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein against rape charges, several Winthrop House students complained that they no longer “felt safe.”
When she realized that it would be impossible to remove Mr. Sullivan for providing legal representation, Ms. Gay launched a witch hunt to find a pretext for his removal. Despite a decade of leading Winthrop House without incident, Ms. Gay insisted that he had presided over a hostile environment.
Ms. Gay’s appointment as Harvard president felt like an “emperor has no clothes” moment. If academics can’t admit or even think that someone is an affirmative-action pick, then Harvard just pretended that she was robed in the finest scholarly garb. What harm could come to Harvard from picking Ms. Gay as its president? As it turns out, quite a lot.
Although one doubts that Harvard’s newfound institutional commitment to free speech would extend so far as to permit speaking obvious truths, the truth is now abundantly clear not only on campus but also across the country.Everyone paying attention knows that Harvard picked its president because of her immutable characteristics despite her lack of scholarly accomplishment.
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/a-failing...-claudine-gay/
Harvard's President Gay attacked the hell out of him and another black professor for going against far Leftist narrative. President Gay did about 1/10th of the academic writing you'd expect from the position she was appointed to. She was 100% an affirmative action hire, who should be at best a tenured professor at a college few people have heard of.
Anyway, I'm not surprised by Fryer's research result how blacks are not shot via discrimination. In fact wasn't there research somewhere else that showed the police who did shoot blacks more, quicker on the trigger were black police officers themselves?
It’s interesting, then, thatMs. Gay’s institutional rise was marked by a pattern of destroying the careers of genuinely brilliant Black scholars who had the stature to point out her mediocrity.
Harvard economist Roland Fryer, for example, has published more in a single year than Ms. Gay has in her entire career. But while serving as the dean of faculty, Ms. Gay led the charge to strip Mr. Fryer of almost all of his academic privileges on trumped-up charges of having run an office with a hostile work environment.
As documentary filmmaker Rob Muntz put it, “Fryer was the victim of a coordinated professional assassination. And … the chief architect of that assassination was none other than Claudine Gay.”
Another target of Ms. Gay’s character assassination was Ronald Sullivan, a Black professor at Harvard Law School. In addition to being an accomplished law professor, Mr. Sullivan was dean of Winthrop House, one of Harvard’s residence halls. After Mr. Sullivan agreed to serve as an attorney to help defend Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein against rape charges, several Winthrop House students complained that they no longer “felt safe.”
When she realized that it would be impossible to remove Mr. Sullivan for providing legal representation, Ms. Gay launched a witch hunt to find a pretext for his removal. Despite a decade of leading Winthrop House without incident, Ms. Gay insisted that he had presided over a hostile environment.
Ms. Gay’s appointment as Harvard president felt like an “emperor has no clothes” moment. If academics can’t admit or even think that someone is an affirmative-action pick, then Harvard just pretended that she was robed in the finest scholarly garb. What harm could come to Harvard from picking Ms. Gay as its president? As it turns out, quite a lot.
Although one doubts that Harvard’s newfound institutional commitment to free speech would extend so far as to permit speaking obvious truths, the truth is now abundantly clear not only on campus but also across the country.Everyone paying attention knows that Harvard picked its president because of her immutable characteristics despite her lack of scholarly accomplishment.
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/a-failing...-claudine-gay/
Harvard's President Gay attacked the hell out of him and another black professor for going against far Leftist narrative. President Gay did about 1/10th of the academic writing you'd expect from the position she was appointed to. She was 100% an affirmative action hire, who should be at best a tenured professor at a college few people have heard of.
Anyway, I'm not surprised by Fryer's research result how blacks are not shot via discrimination. In fact wasn't there research somewhere else that showed the police who did shoot blacks more, quicker on the trigger were black police officers themselves?
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
It's the leftist way, to destroy those who go against the narrative.Well the cheating plagiarizing Harvard president who was the only president to not be a published author like, ever. Went on a long witch hunt trying to dismiss him over his research.
https://www.newsweek.com/claudine-ga...pinion-1855912
“You may excuse this heartless termination as a one-off. You would be wrong. Economics Professor Roland G. Fryer, Jr. was next in the sights of Dean Gay. Fryer was a top Black professor at Harvard. After having overcome all sorts of hardship and childhood deprivation, Professor Fryer joined the faculty at Harvard to become the second-youngest professor ever to be awarded tenure at Harvard, and went on to blaze a trail of distinction, including winning the MacArthur Fellowship and the John Bates Clark Medal.
Yet when Fryer undertook research into the killings of unarmed Black men in Houston, Fryer's research found no racial disparities. He made the mistake of undercutting the racial narrative that the Left has adopted, and as a result, Gay did her best to remove all of his academic privileges, coordinating a witch hunt against him. Fryer survived Gay's crusade of discharge but Fryer's lab was shut down, his reputation tarnished“
https://www.newsweek.com/claudine-ga...pinion-1855912
“You may excuse this heartless termination as a one-off. You would be wrong. Economics Professor Roland G. Fryer, Jr. was next in the sights of Dean Gay. Fryer was a top Black professor at Harvard. After having overcome all sorts of hardship and childhood deprivation, Professor Fryer joined the faculty at Harvard to become the second-youngest professor ever to be awarded tenure at Harvard, and went on to blaze a trail of distinction, including winning the MacArthur Fellowship and the John Bates Clark Medal.
Yet when Fryer undertook research into the killings of unarmed Black men in Houston, Fryer's research found no racial disparities. He made the mistake of undercutting the racial narrative that the Left has adopted, and as a result, Gay did her best to remove all of his academic privileges, coordinating a witch hunt against him. Fryer survived Gay's crusade of discharge but Fryer's lab was shut down, his reputation tarnished“
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
So when data is collected and papers are done, you have to update it yearly.If he did this in 2016, then naturally... you need to check each subsequent year to compare the data to see trends( improvement vs decline)
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Crazy that the plagiarizing garbage human tried to ruin his career for being an actual academic... shocking outcome.
This is why academia, "research" is largely a joke. Unless it is related to data that does not concern anything that could be construed as the least bit political, or have any possible financial implications. You know... the studies no one is conducting because who would fund such a thing in the first place.
Anyone know if he's gotten all of his privileges/status with Harvard reinstated since the fake academic got booted? Honestly Harvard is a joke at this point.
This is why academia, "research" is largely a joke. Unless it is related to data that does not concern anything that could be construed as the least bit political, or have any possible financial implications. You know... the studies no one is conducting because who would fund such a thing in the first place.
Anyone know if he's gotten all of his privileges/status with Harvard reinstated since the fake academic got booted? Honestly Harvard is a joke at this point.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Are you an idiot, didn’t listen to what was being said, or a combination of the two?So when data is collected and papers are done, you have to update it yearly.
If he did this in 2016, then naturally... you need to check each subsequent year to compare the data to see trends( improvement vs decline)
If he did this in 2016, then naturally... you need to check each subsequent year to compare the data to see trends( improvement vs decline)
02-17-2024, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
It's probably wrong to judge the entire piece of work on the conclusion, but ending the paper with "Black Dignity Matters" gives the perception of an agenda and I can't take it seriously.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
I watched it.Are you an idiot, didn’t listen to what was being said, or a combination of the two?
Why don't you take a break from name calling and do better; make an actual correction or point instead of crying like a b itch baby.
i watched your 2 min video.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Because you completely gaslit the video with an irrelevant take that has nothing to do with what was being discussed. Made up an issue that had no bearing on what occurred when it occurred, and it reeks.I watched it.
Why don't you take a break from name calling and do better; make an actual correction or point instead of crying like a b itch baby.
i watched your 2 min video.
Why don't you take a break from name calling and do better; make an actual correction or point instead of crying like a b itch baby.
i watched your 2 min video.
I have no problem being nice with people who are engaging in good faith. I don’t actually think you are an idiot so I assumed it to be that, but if you are in fact not understanding of why you being a disingenuous gaslighter pisses me off, I tried to ask early on so I can apologize and try to explain instead.
But I’m not wasting my time if you know damn well what you did and why you did it.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
he was right for the time that he checked.Because you completely gaslit the video with an irrelevant take that has nothing to do with what was being discussed. Made up an issue that had no bearing on what occurred when it occurred, and it reeks.
but using common sense, wouldn't each year vary or are they all the same results?
we had to run subjects and do studies in college and you have various samples; in this case each year is a sample size to be studied.
i didnt say he was wrong, hell he did it 2 times with 6/8 people counting, but the point is that he has to do:
2017
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2021
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2023
then we compare the results.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Update yearly? That doesn't make sense. Besides research like this always uses multiple years, often a few decades worth of data. Update in another couple of years from now, sure.So when data is collected and papers are done, you have to update it yearly.
If he did this in 2016, then naturally... you need to check each subsequent year to compare the data to see trends( improvement vs decline)
If he did this in 2016, then naturally... you need to check each subsequent year to compare the data to see trends( improvement vs decline)
And anyhow, the point of Fryer's talk is the reactions after he published. Doesn't go along with Leftist narrative, "please don't publish." Also how his academic career was attacked by Harvard's President really exposes the evil within academia. Only publish what goes along with Leftist narrative, or else.....
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If you ever want to see actual racism in America....
Just introduce a liberal to this man and his findings.
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Like that story about the racist liberal above trying to destroy his life, all because his findings didn't go with the alt-left propaganda. Very sad and pathetic, dems are...
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
It does make sense since in our area they are now collecting data and body cam information.Update yearly? That doesn't make sense. Besides research like this always uses multiple years, often a few decades worth of data. Update in another couple of years from now, sure.
And anyhow, the point of Fryer's talk is the reactions after he published. Doesn't go along with Leftist narrative, "please don't publish." Also how his academic career was attacked by Harvard's President really exposes the evil within academia. Only publish what goes along with Leftist narrative, or else.....
And anyhow, the point of Fryer's talk is the reactions after he published. Doesn't go along with Leftist narrative, "please don't publish." Also how his academic career was attacked by Harvard's President really exposes the evil within academia. Only publish what goes along with Leftist narrative, or else.....
we now have data to see and collect where as before it was the word of the officer vs the "victim"
let them combine years, at least it provides numbers.
they may have used decades of data but they are counting yearly here and in many areas with problems.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Way to avoid the main point, the reaction after he published his research.It does make sense since in our area they are now collecting data and body cam information.
we now have data to see and collect where as before it was the word of the officer vs the "victim"
let them combine years, at least it provides numbers.
they may have used decades of data but they are counting yearly here and in many areas with problems.
we now have data to see and collect where as before it was the word of the officer vs the "victim"
let them combine years, at least it provides numbers.
they may have used decades of data but they are counting yearly here and in many areas with problems.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
i was not avoiding the main point at all, let the data show what it shows.Way to avoid the main point, the reaction after he published his research.
I am happy if killings are race neutral.
i just want lots of data for all things, covid shots, medical procedures, the most effective way to get anything done.
Cant we have 2 points in a post and still get something out of a post as grown as men?
bad reactions are bad and nothing surprises me in this fkd up society
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Is the one that said, on a per incident of police interaction basis, whites were treated worse than blacks, but the higher per capita number of police interactions for blacks resulted in worse per capita treatment?
Basically that the rate of police shooting was proportional to the rate of violent crime.
Or is this a different study?
Basically that the rate of police shooting was proportional to the rate of violent crime.
Or is this a different study?
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
"Gay did her best to remove all of his academic privileges, coordinating a witch hunt against him.Fryer survived Gay's crusade of discharge but Fryer's lab was shut down, his reputation tarnished“i was not avoiding the main point at all, let the data show what it shows.
I am happy if killings are race neutral.
i just want lots of data for all things, covid shots, medical procedures, the most effective way to get anything done.
Cant we have 2 points in a post and still get something out of a post as grown as men?
bad reactions are bad and nothing surprises me in this fkd up society
I am happy if killings are race neutral.
i just want lots of data for all things, covid shots, medical procedures, the most effective way to get anything done.
Cant we have 2 points in a post and still get something out of a post as grown as men?
bad reactions are bad and nothing surprises me in this fkd up society
And that's after his peers asked him not to publish. He can't do the research since Plagiarist President Gay shut him down. You want data on things that powerful people don't want published. It all begs the question of how much research is squashed through either career or physical intimidation if the results disagree with the elitist worldview.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Yeah i missed that as i was focused on OP's original post only and science/subjects/years."Gay did her best to remove all of his academic privileges, coordinating a witch hunt against him.Fryer survived Gay's crusade of discharge but Fryer's lab was shut down, his reputation tarnished“
And that's after his peers asked him not to publish. He can't do the research since Plagiarist President Gay shut him down. You want data on things that powerful people don't want published. It all begs the question of how much research is squashed through either career or physical intimidation if the results disagree with the elitist worldview.
And that's after his peers asked him not to publish. He can't do the research since Plagiarist President Gay shut him down. You want data on things that powerful people don't want published. It all begs the question of how much research is squashed through either career or physical intimidation if the results disagree with the elitist worldview.
Things are crazy as i said above.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Then he wonders why some people never take him seriously...it's standard behavior for him.Because you completely gaslit the video with an irrelevant take that has nothing to do with what was being discussed. Made up an issue that had no bearing on what occurred when it occurred, and it reeks.
I have no problem being nice with people who are engaging in good faith. I don’t actually think you are an idiot so I assumed it to be that, but if you are in fact not understanding of why you being a disingenuous gaslighter pisses me off, I tried to ask early on so I can apologize and try to explain instead.
But I’m not wasting my time if you know damn well what you did and why you did it.
I have no problem being nice with people who are engaging in good faith. I don’t actually think you are an idiot so I assumed it to be that, but if you are in fact not understanding of why you being a disingenuous gaslighter pisses me off, I tried to ask early on so I can apologize and try to explain instead.
But I’m not wasting my time if you know damn well what you did and why you did it.
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Youre right, but lets not pretend youre any better. I dont mean this to offend you because I truly believe everyone has a right to hate whoever they want, but lets be real.If you ever want to see actual racism in America....
Just introduce a liberal to this man and his findings.
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Like that story about the racist liberal above trying to destroy his life, all because his findings didn't go with the alt-left propaganda. Very sad and pathetic, dems are...
Just introduce a liberal to this man and his findings.
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Like that story about the racist liberal above trying to destroy his life, all because his findings didn't go with the alt-left propaganda. Very sad and pathetic, dems are...
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
This second part of this post is new so I am seeing it now at 6pm since it was added later.Because you completely gaslit the video with an irrelevant take that has nothing to do with what was being discussed. Made up an issue that had no bearing on what occurred when it occurred, and it reeks.
I have no problem being nice with people who are engaging in good faith. I don’t actually think you are an idiot so I assumed it to be that, but if you are in fact not understanding of why you being a disingenuous gaslighter pisses me off, I tried to ask early on so I can apologize and try to explain instead.
But I’m not wasting my time if you know damn well what you did and why you did it.
I have no problem being nice with people who are engaging in good faith. I don’t actually think you are an idiot so I assumed it to be that, but if you are in fact not understanding of why you being a disingenuous gaslighter pisses me off, I tried to ask early on so I can apologize and try to explain instead.
But I’m not wasting my time if you know damn well what you did and why you did it.
You know in school when they ask you to analyze a topic on different levels?
Well not knowing this dudes history, not knowing the history of his critics, not knowing anything else except what he said in the 2.5 min video that you posted originally;, I thought what about the other years.?
That is it. It was a simple quick thought that was twisted into something other than what about years other than 2016?
You can be.offended angry butthurt but if you did anything that involved research or studies, those are the types of questions that you ask with all studies.
The methodology.
No one was trying to disprove or gaslight.
A d just because you make a wild accusation here does not make it a fact or true.
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