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03-11-2024, 07:15 PM
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As a lifter over 30 years old, lower weight and slower eccentric is king
To building muscle?
Am I right or wrong? But the biggest benefit of lower weight/slower eccentric is that I don't get injured anymore and feel the pump.
Am I right or wrong? But the biggest benefit of lower weight/slower eccentric is that I don't get injured anymore and feel the pump.
03-11-2024, 11:09 PM
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i find training for strength/explosiveness to be more fun, so that is what I carry on with. 3-5 rep range.
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To be completely honest I've had the best results upping the intensity like I did in my early 20s
Plyometrics, calisthenics, maximum lifts, sprinting, etc
My body has responded tremendously. Shredded, no pain, much more stamina and flexibility, athleticism like nobody's business. Test is also through the roof
Plyometrics, calisthenics, maximum lifts, sprinting, etc
My body has responded tremendously. Shredded, no pain, much more stamina and flexibility, athleticism like nobody's business. Test is also through the roof
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Listen to your body & train instinctly instead of following some guideline.
No reason to even Get injured unless you are married to certain lifts.
Who gets injured from doing incline hammer strength press followed by cable flyes?
Always the bench press & dips brahs married to those lifts that have the most issues.
No reason to even Get injured unless you are married to certain lifts.
Who gets injured from doing incline hammer strength press followed by cable flyes?
Always the bench press & dips brahs married to those lifts that have the most issues.
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Originally Posted By gradtech17⏩
If that works for you then great, but Im pretty sure theres almost zero difference in hypertrophy between slow eccentric and normal speed reps.To building muscle?
Am I right or wrong? But the biggest benefit of lower weight/slower eccentric is that I don't get injured anymore and feel the pump.
Am I right or wrong? But the biggest benefit of lower weight/slower eccentric is that I don't get injured anymore and feel the pump.
03-12-2024, 02:29 AM
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you wouldn't believe me, but i thought to myself "where is Ron and his message today" before i opened this thread.
thanks Ron
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It comes down to using weight that you can actually handle. One aspect of it is good ROM especially when it comes to the eccentric (e.g. for bench your elbows should go well below parallel). The other part is the level of exertion. You don't want to be grinding hard on your heaviest set. For your top set, whatever reps you're going for, pick a weight that you can do it cleanly for. If you have to grind the final rep every time, it's too heavy.
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Heavy weights are always the key no matter your age.
When you get older you have to be smarter because the injuries come faster and last longer. You can overcome that with proper planning.
You cant get stuck in a rut of having to do the same program on the same days you did when you were younger. You have to work it out for yourself what is going to work.
When you get older you have to be smarter because the injuries come faster and last longer. You can overcome that with proper planning.
You cant get stuck in a rut of having to do the same program on the same days you did when you were younger. You have to work it out for yourself what is going to work.
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Originally Posted By gradtech17⏩
Over 30 is still very young if your form is on point; now if you said over 50 then i could see your point.To building muscle?
Am I right or wrong? But the biggest benefit of lower weight/slower eccentric is that I don't get injured anymore and feel the pump.
Am I right or wrong? But the biggest benefit of lower weight/slower eccentric is that I don't get injured anymore and feel the pump.
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Originally Posted By FoulSmell⏩
that^^This.
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You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength -Marcus Aurelius
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I think a lot of dudes go full retard with weight too heavy for them to control. Which results in injury or lower gains. If you want to lift 'heavy' I think 10-12 reps at your failure point is a good amount of weight.
At the end of the day the only thing that truly matters is long term consistency. Your chances of being consistent in the gym for 15 or 20 years decreases significantly when you are using low rep ranges. Simply because your rates of injury (whether major or minor) increase dramatically. You've got to protect your joints/tendons as best you can. Which means managing weight/volume/overall load throughout the week.
When it comes to the time of your negative. Its a good way to increase time under tension. I'm not entirely sure it grows muscle more however.
At the end of the day the only thing that truly matters is long term consistency. Your chances of being consistent in the gym for 15 or 20 years decreases significantly when you are using low rep ranges. Simply because your rates of injury (whether major or minor) increase dramatically. You've got to protect your joints/tendons as best you can. Which means managing weight/volume/overall load throughout the week.
When it comes to the time of your negative. Its a good way to increase time under tension. I'm not entirely sure it grows muscle more however.
03-12-2024, 01:35 PM
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Ehhh, I would argue resistance training is good to prolongue good health and wellness through age period.
Anything else is personal preference.
Anything else is personal preference.
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