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03-12-2024, 07:47 AM
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From the article, what those of us with common sense said from very early on, in March or April 2020:
"Yet it was clear, from early 2020, that the virus would eventually spread across the globe, and that it would be futile to try to suppress it with lockdowns. It was also clear that lockdowns would inflict enormous collateral damage, not only on education but also on public health, including treatment for cancer, cardiovascular disease, and mental health. We will be dealing with the harm done for decades. Our children, the elderly, the middle class, the working class, and the poor around the world—all will suffer."
There are plenty of people, both public figures and private people who need to be suicided, like they're a Boeing whistleblower, for what they did during Covid that has negatively affected Billions of people. Yes, plenty of public health officials, college admin should have been murdered a while ago.
"Yet it was clear, from early 2020, that the virus would eventually spread across the globe, and that it would be futile to try to suppress it with lockdowns. It was also clear that lockdowns would inflict enormous collateral damage, not only on education but also on public health, including treatment for cancer, cardiovascular disease, and mental health. We will be dealing with the harm done for decades. Our children, the elderly, the middle class, the working class, and the poor around the world—all will suffer."
There are plenty of people, both public figures and private people who need to be suicided, like they're a Boeing whistleblower, for what they did during Covid that has negatively affected Billions of people. Yes, plenty of public health officials, college admin should have been murdered a while ago.
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03-12-2024, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
What does it say about the American people that this hasn't occurred yet?From the article, what those of us with common sense said from very early on, in March or April 2020:
"Yet it was clear, from early 2020, that the virus would eventually spread across the globe, and that it would be futile to try to suppress it with lockdowns. It was also clear that lockdowns would inflict enormous collateral damage, not only on education but also on public health, including treatment for cancer, cardiovascular disease, and mental health. We will be dealing with the harm done for decades. Our children, the elderly, the middle class, the working class, and the poor around the world—all will suffer."
There are plenty of people, both public figures and private people who need to be suicided, like they're a Boeing whistleblower, for what they did during Covid that has negatively affected Billions of people. Yes, plenty of public health officials, college admin should have been murdered a while ago.
"Yet it was clear, from early 2020, that the virus would eventually spread across the globe, and that it would be futile to try to suppress it with lockdowns. It was also clear that lockdowns would inflict enormous collateral damage, not only on education but also on public health, including treatment for cancer, cardiovascular disease, and mental health. We will be dealing with the harm done for decades. Our children, the elderly, the middle class, the working class, and the poor around the world—all will suffer."
There are plenty of people, both public figures and private people who need to be suicided, like they're a Boeing whistleblower, for what they did during Covid that has negatively affected Billions of people. Yes, plenty of public health officials, college admin should have been murdered a while ago.
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03-12-2024, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
weren't you one of the idiots advocating for all the covid lockdowns?
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03-12-2024, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You're one that should've roped or swallowed a bottle of tylenol with a liter of vodka a couple of years ago. The world would be better for it. Though your illiteracy has been kind of entertaining.
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03-12-2024, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Such excellent points.You're one that should've roped or swallowed a bottle of tylenol with a liter of vodka a couple of years ago. The world would be better for it. Though your illiteracy has been kind of entertaining.
Such intellectual honesty.
Much good faith discussion.
(Kulldorff is a GBD'er)
03-12-2024, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
“ I did not go where I could do no good to you or to myself; but where I could do the greatest good privately to everyone of you, thither I went, and sought to persuade every man among you that he must look to himself, and seek virtue and wisdom before he looks to his private interests, and look to the state before he looks to the interests of the state; and that this should be the order which he observes in all his actions. What shall be done to such a one?Which crimes?
[36d] Doubtless some good thing, O men of Athens, if he has his reward; and the good should be of a kind suitable to him. What would be a reward suitable to a poor man who is your benefactor, who desires leisure that he may instruct you? There can be no more fitting reward than maintenance in the Prytaneion,2 O men of Athens, a reward which he deserves far more than the citizen who has won the prize at Olympia in the horse or chariot race, whether the chariots were drawn by two horses or by many. [36e] For I am in want, and he has enough; and he only gives you the appearance of happiness [with good daimōn], and I give you the reality. And if I am to estimate the penalty justly [dikaiōs], [37a] I say that maintenance in the Prytaneion is the just return.
Perhaps you may think that I am braving you in saying this, as in what I said before about the tears and prayers. But that is not the case. I speak rather because I am convinced that I never intentionally wronged anyone, although I cannot convince you of that—for we have had a short conversation only”
Socrates was put to death for questioning everyone and letting them come to their own conclusions. His response was “I deserve free food for life”
People don’t respond well to your method of questioning.
03-12-2024, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
None of that has anything to do with me. Cool story tho!“ I did not go where I could do no good to you or to myself; but where I could do the greatest good privately to everyone of you, thither I went, and sought to persuade every man among you that he must look to himself, and seek virtue and wisdom before he looks to his private interests, and look to the state before he looks to the interests of the state; and that this should be the order which he observes in all his actions. What shall be done to such a one?
[36d] Doubtless some good thing, O men of Athens, if he has his reward; and the good should be of a kind suitable to him. What would be a reward suitable to a poor man who is your benefactor, who desires leisure that he may instruct you? There can be no more fitting reward than maintenance in the Prytaneion,2 O men of Athens, a reward which he deserves far more than the citizen who has won the prize at Olympia in the horse or chariot race, whether the chariots were drawn by two horses or by many. [36e] For I am in want, and he has enough; and he only gives you the appearance of happiness [with good daimōn], and I give you the reality. And if I am to estimate the penalty justly [dikaiōs], [37a] I say that maintenance in the Prytaneion is the just return.
Perhaps you may think that I am braving you in saying this, as in what I said before about the tears and prayers. But that is not the case. I speak rather because I am convinced that I never intentionally wronged anyone, although I cannot convince you of that—for we have had a short conversation only”
Socrates was put to death for questioning everyone and letting them come to their own conclusions. His response was “I deserve free food for life”
People don’t respond well to your method of questioning.
[36d] Doubtless some good thing, O men of Athens, if he has his reward; and the good should be of a kind suitable to him. What would be a reward suitable to a poor man who is your benefactor, who desires leisure that he may instruct you? There can be no more fitting reward than maintenance in the Prytaneion,2 O men of Athens, a reward which he deserves far more than the citizen who has won the prize at Olympia in the horse or chariot race, whether the chariots were drawn by two horses or by many. [36e] For I am in want, and he has enough; and he only gives you the appearance of happiness [with good daimōn], and I give you the reality. And if I am to estimate the penalty justly [dikaiōs], [37a] I say that maintenance in the Prytaneion is the just return.
Perhaps you may think that I am braving you in saying this, as in what I said before about the tears and prayers. But that is not the case. I speak rather because I am convinced that I never intentionally wronged anyone, although I cannot convince you of that—for we have had a short conversation only”
Socrates was put to death for questioning everyone and letting them come to their own conclusions. His response was “I deserve free food for life”
People don’t respond well to your method of questioning.
(Last line is nonsensical; the rest was kinda entertaining although not cited).
03-12-2024, 09:41 AM
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Kids got to stay at home with 0 education and learned to rely on government for everything they need. A lot of kids never went to school. SF kept a lot of their schools closed for almost two years. No lessons, no studies, no homework’s it was Trump a democratic govt in charge of society
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03-12-2024, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted By freeheeler⏩
That's definitely a terrible strategy.Kids got to stay at home with 0 education and learned to rely on government for everything they need. A lot of kids never went to school. SF kept a lot of their schools closed for almost two years. No lessons, no studies, no homework’s it was Trump a democratic govt in charge of society
But, the GBD herd immunity premise hasn't really manifested.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Whether aware of it or not, most of your posts involve you using the Socratic method to question what people believe to be truth. And you get the same reaction Socrates got.None of that has anything to do with me. Cool story tho!
(Last line is nonsensical; the rest was kinda entertaining although not cited).
(Last line is nonsensical; the rest was kinda entertaining although not cited).
It’s actually pretty funny to me
03-12-2024, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
I get a kick out the number of statements put forth as definitive together with refusal to support said statements.Whether aware of it or not, most of your posts involve you using the Socratic method to question what people believe to be truth. And you get the same reaction Socrates got.
It’s actually pretty funny to me
It’s actually pretty funny to me
I also don't really trust Koch/Petroleum to be objective.
If he was fired, it could be that Harvard didn't want to keep paying a grifter

I do appreciate being likened to Socrates tho. Thanks, mane.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
He claims that he didn't, then finds the few articles that claim the lockdowns saved lives.weren't you one of the idiots advocating for all the covid lockdowns?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I swear, you're the new Z4V4........Where? When?
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Originally Posted By freeheeler⏩
SF, LA, Seattle, etc.Kids got to stay at home with 0 education and learned to rely on government for everything they need. A lot of kids never went to school. SF kept a lot of their schools closed for almost two years. No lessons, no studies, no homework’s it was Trump a democratic govt in charge of society
Hmm wonder what these places all have in common?
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lmao he was one of the biggest antivax disinformation spreaders
not surprised he was fired by Harvard...hard to imagine how many morons this guy got killed
Edit: He wasn't even fired by Harvard, lmao. He doesn't work at the hospital and can't teach anymore.
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and universities (such as those at Johns Hopkins, Penn, Duke, Stanford, UCSF, and others), or they may be independent corporate entities that operate under various "affiliation agreements" with the schools. This is the case at university hospitals affiliated with Harvard, Yale, and New York Presbyterian, the latter affiliated with two different medical schools, those of Columbia and Cornell. ...Whereas research at Harvard-affiliated hospitals is "owned" by these hospitals and conducted in hospital-owned facilities by faculty with HMS appointments who are employed by the hospitals, most research by faculty at Yale, Columbia, and Cornell medical schools is "owned" by and conducted in school facilities, also by faculty with school appointments."
He was fired by Mass General Brigham, probably for being a rabid antivaxxer covid denying nutjob.
not surprised he was fired by Harvard...hard to imagine how many morons this guy got killed
Edit: He wasn't even fired by Harvard, lmao. He doesn't work at the hospital and can't teach anymore.
"Medical schools must offer clinical apprenticeships, and this requires them to own or affiliate with [End Page 59] hospitals. These hospitals may be owned by their parent medical schools
and universities (such as those at Johns Hopkins, Penn, Duke, Stanford, UCSF, and others), or they may be independent corporate entities that operate under various "affiliation agreements" with the schools. This is the case at university hospitals affiliated with Harvard, Yale, and New York Presbyterian, the latter affiliated with two different medical schools, those of Columbia and Cornell. ...Whereas research at Harvard-affiliated hospitals is "owned" by these hospitals and conducted in hospital-owned facilities by faculty with HMS appointments who are employed by the hospitals, most research by faculty at Yale, Columbia, and Cornell medical schools is "owned" by and conducted in school facilities, also by faculty with school appointments."
He was fired by Mass General Brigham, probably for being a rabid antivaxxer covid denying nutjob.
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Originally Posted By 4g64fiero⏩
Indeed. A lot of antivaxxers should be in jail.But seriously, a lot of people need to go to jail. This should not be let go; this was not an accident.
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Originally Posted By WEARETHEFEDS⏩
Which really was the extent of the "scientific" consensuses of that time and today we're seeing that. The science we were expected to trust was merely the figments of people's imaginations all along. Now that the hysteria and witch hunts are over, it's time for the truth and hopefully (but unlikely) accountability.lmao he was one of the biggest antivax disinformation spreaders
not surprised he was fired...hard toimaginehow many morons this guy got killed
not surprised he was fired...hard toimaginehow many morons this guy got killed
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Originally Posted By HaiMeesk⏩
KullDORK said the pandemic would be over in 3 mos and kill zero kids. Wrong on all counts. Fail. He was a dipchit. He was wrong. He was told he was wrong. He doubled down. He ignored data contrary to his convictions, and he should therefore fuk right off. He can go make a podcast for nazis and talk about how the man keeps him down. No one in the medical community will ever give a fuk what he says again.Which really was the extent of the "scientific" consensuses of that time and today we're seeing that. The science we were expected to trust was merely the figments of people's imaginations all along. Now that the hysteria and witch hunts are over, it's time for the truth and hopefully (but unlikely) accountability.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I did not. I'm also a guy posting on the internet. You don't have to care what I say.And you said that Wal Marts have special filtration in their HVAC systems that filters out Covid.

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Originally Posted By WEARETHEFEDS⏩
How many healthy kids died Wincel?KullDORK said the pandemic would be over in 3 mos and kill zero kids. Wrong on all counts. Fail. He was a dipchit. He was wrong. He was told he was wrong. He doubled down. He ignored data contrary to his convictions, and he should therefore fuk right off. He can go make a podcast for nazis and talk about how the man keeps him down. No one in the medical community will ever give a fuk what he says again.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
He also believed the non-essential part of Walmart should have been closed, because somehow that makes a difference.....And you said that Wal Marts have special filtration in their HVAC systems that filters out Covid.

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