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post 1699142513 03-13-2024, 08:49 AM
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Vaccines associated with reduced embolism and cardiovascular risks post-covid

The role of COVID-19 vaccines in preventing post-COVID-19 thromboembolic and cardiovascular complications


"The study included 10.17 million vaccinated and 10.39 million unvaccinated people."

"Conclusions

COVID-19 vaccination reduced the risk of post-COVID-19 cardiac and thromboembolic outcomes. These effects were more pronounced for acute COVID-19 outcomes, consistent with known reductions in disease severity following breakthrough versus unvaccinated SARS-CoV-2 infection."

https://heart.bmj.com/content/early/...nl-2023-323483
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I mean this was always the big question.

Good study, good data, still not going to have second thoughts about not getting vaxxed. Is there anywhere in the study that could point to whether the vaccine could trigger a heart event in a healthy person more easily then the odds of a healthy person developing an event from the infection?


That would be my last cope hanging onto my current reasoning before I would have to reevaluate.

But new reasoning would just be Covid doesn’t matter anymore so, we good.
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And then months from now, this ****ing retard will deny creating threads that promoted the jab.....
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
And then months from now, this ****ing retard will deny creating threads that promoted the jab.....
But he didn’t anywhere in this thread.

He posted a scientific study and some findings.

You take it to mean he is promoting the jab.

Meanwhile the findings are specifically about investigating wether or not adverse events from Covid infections would have been higher then adverse events due to vaccine.

It isn’t even denying the vaccine causes adverse events and is trying to see if it’s doing more harm than if Covid infected everyone.

You can still digest the information and find less risk with covid then vaccine simply because overall risk is so minuscule and I would rather jump of a 100ft cliff with skiis then play Russian roulette (poor analogy but I hope it gets the point across even if not to scale)





Regardless, this is how he gets you guys all riled up. He’s just posting data and asking questions and drawing out peoples projections.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
I mean this was always the big question.

Good study, good data, still not going to have second thoughts about not getting vaxxed. Is there anywhere in the study that could point to whether the vaccine could trigger a heart event in a healthy person more easily then the odds of a healthy person developing an event from the infection?


That would be my last cope hanging onto my current reasoning before I would have to reevaluate.

But new reasoning would just be Covid doesn’t matter anymore so, we good.
The authors designed the study to investigate post-COVID complications on vaccinated versus unvaccinated individuals.

To answer your (different) question, you could compare the odds of thromboembolic and cardiovascular complications in vaccinated and uninfected people against infected but unvaccinated people.
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when you open and read the link, here are the cliff notes.

1. While COVID-19 vaccines were associated with increased risk for cardiac and thromboembolic events, such as myocarditis and thrombosis, the risk of complications was substantially higher due to SARS-CoV-2 infection.

2. COVID-19 vaccination reduced the risk of heart failure, venous thromboembolism and arterial thrombosis/thromboembolism in the acute (30 days) and post-acute (31 to 365 days) phase following SARS-CoV-2 infection. This effect was stronger in the acute phase.

3.COVID-19 vaccines proved to be highly effective in reducing the risk of post-COVID cardiovascular and thromboembolic complications.

So using about 11 million subjects, this is what we know, now.
https://heart.bmj.com/content/early/...nl-2023-323483
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
when you open and read the link, here are the cliff notes.

1. While COVID-19 vaccines were associated with increased risk for cardiac and thromboembolic events, such as myocarditis and thrombosis, the risk of complications was substantially higher due to SARS-CoV-2 infection.

2. COVID-19 vaccination reduced the risk of heart failure, venous thromboembolism and arterial thrombosis/thromboembolism in the acute (30 days) and post-acute (31 to 365 days) phase following SARS-CoV-2 infection. This effect was stronger in the acute phase.

3.COVID-19 vaccines proved to be highly effective in reducing the risk of post-COVID cardiovascular and thromboembolic complications.

So using about 11 million subjects, this is what we know, now.
https://heart.bmj.com/content/early/...nl-2023-323483
Yep, except 20 million people.

However, according to some on the misc uninfected people don't exist.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Yep, except 20 million people.

However, according to some on the misc uninfected people don't exist.
Probably had it two to three times, will I make it? Do I have long term complications?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Probably had it two to three times, will I make it? Do I have long term complications?
How would I know?
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Vit D reks all the pharma jabs. Compared to having sufficient Vit D levels the jabs may as well be saline.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
How would I know?
What do the "experts" say?
post 1699145973 03-13-2024, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
What do the "experts" say?
If asked, I imagine they'd recommend developing some literacy regarding odds and risk.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Vit D reks all the pharma jabs. Compared to having sufficient Vit D levels the jabs may as well be saline.
I trust you, bro.

Do you think it's safe to assume all 20 million people in this study were vitamin D deficient?

The demonstrated effects in this study are pretty large.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
And then months from now, this ****ing retard will deny creating threads that promoted the jab.....
He'll respond with "where? when?"
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I trust you, bro.

Do you think it's safe to assume all 20 million people in this study were vitamin D deficient?

The demonstrated effects in this study are pretty large.
Having sufficient Vit D levels = 60% lower chance of getting infected in the first place. Unlike repeated jabs which place the people at higher infection risk of this common cold virus. Increasing a person's Nitric Oxide levels (easy) is quite effective at preventing epithelial damage in the few susceptible population.

Besides, the jabs have had contamination issues since they're not produced the same way for mass production as in the small batches for clinical trials. Process 1 vs Process 2. Double stranded RNA, DNA fragment contamination has been quite common. Haste makes waste.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Vit D reks all the pharma jabs. Compared to having sufficient Vit D levels the jabs may as well be saline.
Vit C is just as powerful.
Humans are the only mammal that do not naturally produce Vitamin C.
Oddly enough, we do not take any dewormers or antiparasitic drugs like cats, dogs and horses that do naturally produce vitamin C.
Also viruses do not even exist. Germ theory is a hoax.
We are being poisoned by any means necessary. Killing us softly.
If you are vaccinated, you will die in the next 10 year following your jabs.
A large list of potential diseases will kill you. It was on purpose to make it harder to link it to your jabs.
That was also the reason for the 10 year immunity. Killing you softly.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Having sufficient Vit D levels = 60% lower chance of getting infected in the first place. Unlike repeated jabs which place the people at higher infection risk of this common cold virus. Increasing a person's Nitric Oxide levels (easy) is quite effective at preventing epithelial damage in the few susceptible population.

Besides, the jabs have had contamination issues since they're not produced the same way for mass production as in the small batches for clinical trials. Process 1 vs Process 2. Double stranded RNA, DNA fragment contamination has been quite common. Haste makes waste.
I'll trust the effect size.

But still, I don't see how that negates (nor relates to) these results. All 20 million were infected.
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Originally Posted By OpenSociety⏩
Vit C is just as powerful. Same for ivermectin, fenbendazole, NAC.
Also viruses do not even exist. Germ theory is a hoax.
We are being poisoned by any means necesseray. Killing us softly.
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Such a weird hill to continue to die on and make countless threads/posts about....
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Having sufficient Vit D levels = 60% lower chance of getting infected in the first place. Unlike repeated jabs which place the people at higher infection risk of this common cold virus. Increasing a person's Nitric Oxide levels (easy) is quite effective at preventing epithelial damage in the few susceptible population.

Besides, the jabs have had contamination issues since they're not produced the same way for mass production as in the small batches for clinical trials. Process 1 vs Process 2. Double stranded RNA, DNA fragment contamination has been quite common. Haste makes waste.
I'm no scientist, but I'm pretty sure covid in itself depletes vitamin d levels. When I had covid I had bloodwork immediately after and my vitamin d levels were super low, but a few months before they were at an upper normal level. Also, my heart felt a little strange when I was ill, it lasted for about two weeks. This is a non-biased view from actual experience. I believe the virus is manmade and the "vaccine" in itself mimics the entire illness. Both arguments that I see are highly biased to one side. Either the illness or vaccine is horrible for the body IMO. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
Such a weird hill to continue to die on and make countless threads/posts about....
It's almost like he's a (((Shill)))
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Real Talk,
all around the world experts made educated guesses on this thing while many speculated on what would or would not happen.
it is interesting to read, NOW, what was right, what was wrong, and what needs more study...... now that the virus is weaker and we are in the clear.
JLC provided the link, but the link info is not about him at all.
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
Such a weird hill to continue to die on and make countless threads/posts about....
He still makes excuses for people masking up.
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
I'm no scientist, but I'm pretty sure covid in itself depletes vitamin d levels. When I had covid I had bloodwork immediately after and my vitamin d levels were super low, but a few months before they were at an upper normal level. Also, my heart felt a little strange when I was ill, it lasted for about two weeks. This is a non-biased view from actual experience. I believe the virus is manmade and the "vaccine" in itself mimics the entire illness. Both arguments that I see are highly biased to one side. Either the illness or vaccine is horrible for the body IMO. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
I'm sure the above happened......
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I'm sure the above happened......
What's so hard to believe a non-biased opinion that doesn't side with any side? Wake up and stop being dumb. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
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