Ive always walked around sucking my stomach in because i was super fat and self conscious as a kid. Still do (body does it normally at this point). Still am.
Ive been workingHARDon corrective exercises (bringing weak points up so the chain gets stronger) and mobility (not just stretching but weighted stretches to help me get strong in the new ROM (otherwise, the chit will HURT)). But ive always had low back pain and no glutes (gluteal amnesia). My quads have always been super strong, hams were....meh.

Anyway, i'm wondering if sucking my gut in is the primary reason for gluteal amnesia and in turn, my lumbar arthritis.

I forgot to mention that i tend to walk "softly." Grew up living above my parents and didnt want to bother them too much. When you walk, this happens:
1.) Heel Strike
2.) Mid stance
3.) Toe off
4.) Heel strike
etc

The toe off is one of the final signals to the brain to activate the glutes. No toe off, no signal. I guess ive been driving in with my midfoot.

I doubt it, keeping your core tight is the way to maintain proper posture.

If your glutes didn't work you'd be walking around folded in half in full hip flexion all day lol.

I walk super softly too, don’t think it’s caused me any problems

I’ve always been a soft walker as well, but haven’t noticed any issues?

Yes and no. Its MUCH more about a balance between all the core muscles and the legs, mainly the posterior chain. Also, your abs are only a small link in the chain that makes up the core. Contracting your abs is not at all the same thing as bracing your coregood oneHmm...I do also have a compensation curve in my spine. Makes my right shoulder sit a bit higher than the left and my right hip is higher up which makes it seem like one leg is shorter. In reality, a LOT of people have the exact same issue, especially if they played sports. There is a reason we have a dominant/strong side that is much more dextile than the other. Mine is just more pronounced than most of them. But also, there are people with the EXACT same issues and severity that dont have as many problems. I'm just trying to narrow down causes so i can get at it. I'm old lol. It hurts to get out of bed....OK hmm...may i ask about your calfs? Are they...meh...better than most but nothing too beefy or are they not chit. Mine are the former (i like to think)

Try a new mattress. I had chronic back pain for years, after getting a purple mattress, it went away. A lot of these memory foam mattresses have 30 day trials.

backs just hurt sometimes, stenosis, OA, bulging discs

all common with aging

also you're suppose to rotate your mattress every 6 months so it doesn't wear down unevenly

I suck in my gut most of the day too. Just natural for me too, I'm not even too out of shape but if I just 'let it hang' it looks big lol.


Also have back pain, and it hurts worse when I suck in.

If you learn anything please PM me or rep me or something so I can read it too

inb4 that ph@ggot DonVonCuck comes in claiming that a new mattress will make zero difference and that higher end mattresses are nothing but a scam

i would recommend you keep your body as Balanced Possible only women crave junk in the Trunk like Mario Mijeita 304

This

Doing the first 2.5 minutes of this a couple times a day helps me when my lower backs starts to hurt.

liposuction
and breast reduction

If you have tight abs it could cause pelvix tilt which could cause back issues.

I had a lower back issue that refused to go away until i stopped ab training and started doing deadlifts again with really light weight....like 5x5x185 three times a week. I kept doing that till plateaued hard at 5x5x385 raw, no belt.

I started recording rpe and resetting when it got above 9.

Hows hamstring flexibility? Can you touch your toes with a straight back?

Spinal arthritis here

All day everyday pain

I take nothing

Stretch ,stretch ,stretch

Lay on floor ,twist ,stretch flexors ,pull knees in, rotate ,etc etc

Stretch hamstrings

Everyday ,stretch ,fkn stretch

And keep moving

[QUOTE=Dukelord post_id=1699264593]Try a new mattress. I had chronic back pain for years, after getting a purple mattress, it went away. A lot of these memory foam mattresses have 30 day trials.[/QUOTE]My matress is chit but ive only had this one for over a year. Ive had bad arthritis issues for over a decade. But ive made changes and now i feel soo fuking much better. I dont wake up hunched over because of muscle tightness
[QUOTE=Azrairc post_id=1699264893]backs just hurt sometimes, stenosis, OA, bulging discs

all common with aging

also you're suppose to rotate your mattress every 6 months so it doesn't wear down unevenly[/QUOTE]Actually, back pain isnt common with aging. It has NUMEROUS causes. Did you know that wearing narrow toed shoes (pretty much all shoes these days because its [I]more fashionable[/I) completely screws up the toes which effects the musculature (plantar fasciitis) and if you just live with it long enough your body will shift the inbalance somewhere else. Eventually, it will climb the posterior chain up to the low back.

But i totally get what you are saying and even a guy like me with my CLEP degree, it took me years to get back ont he right path


[QUOTE=MiscistheGOAT post_id=1699266073]I suck in my gut most of the day too. Just natural for me too, I'm not even too out of shape but if I just 'let it hang' it looks big lol.


Also have back pain, and it hurts worse when I suck in.

If you learn anything please PM me or rep me or something so I can read it too[/QUOTE]yeah man, let me hit all these replies and ill post some helpful videos that show you how to contort yourself then try to lick your own ass hole just so you can stretch this onetinytinymuscle thats responsible for pulling you low back in directions that are no bueno
[QUOTE=LargePeter post_id=1699266193]inb4 that ph@ggot DonVonCuck comes in claiming that a new mattress will make zero difference and that higher end mattresses are nothing but a scam[/QUOTE]dang i totally forgot about DonVonDuck. Loves his cartoons back in the day
[QUOTE=dabbmw2002 post_id=1699266673]Sucking in your gut activates your abdominal muscles, I dont know how that would effect your glutes. You may be over thinking it. Being overweight and getting older is gonna cause some deterioration of your lower back, it is inevitable. Try some bird dog stretches everyday, it wil activate your glutes and help with the lower back pain.


[img]https://learntomovedotorg.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/exercise-back-birddog.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]Sure, but bad things happen when you just lightly contract one muscle in a muscle group (i.e. the other core muscles) because this skews how the group works as a unit. Strangely enough, That pic is a drill in the McGill Big 3. I do them every day, usually twice a day. Its helping correct my hip impingement). I cant tell you how much better i feel now that i'm correctly targeting my core
[QUOTE=mr.left hook post_id=1699266973]i would recommend you keep your body as Balanced Possible only women crave junk in the Trunk like Mario Mijeita 304[/QUOTE]Absolutely. I wish i'd opened my eyes to this a very long time ago
[QUOTE=notthis post_id=1699270163]Doing the first 2.5 minutes of this a couple times a day helps me when my lower backs starts to hurt.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/4BOTvaRaDjI[/youtube][/QUOTE]The forum must have changed the way you post vids now because i dont know how to do them and the old way doesnt work
[QUOTE=Kiop post_id=1699270333]liposuction
and breast reduction[/QUOTE]ok
[QUOTE=rectifryer post_id=1699272033]If you have tight abs it could cause pelvix tilt which could cause back issues.

I had a lower back issue that refused to go away until i stopped ab training and started doing deadlifts again with really light weight....like 5x5x185 three times a week. I kept doing that till plateaued hard at 5x5x385 raw, no belt.

I started recording rpe and resetting when it got above 9.

Hows hamstring flexibility? Can you touch your toes with a straight back?[/QUOTE]Yeah I have this nagging nerve pain in my lower abs until i stretch my abs out. Then the pain is instantly gone. Hams are good. Ive been doing jefferson hangs and jefferson curls and HOLY FUK does that help with flexiibility AND getting strong in that new range of motion
[QUOTE=wasp9166 post_id=1699272703]Spinal arthritis here

All day everyday pain

I take nothing

Stretch ,stretch ,stretch

Lay on floor ,twist ,stretch flexors ,pull knees in, rotate ,etc etc

Stretch hamstrings

Everyday ,stretch ,fkn stretch

And keep moving[/QUOTE]Yup. Arthritis old fuk here too. How are your glutes. You got a fat dumpy? Or is it weak like mine? Also, LISTEN TO ME: STRETCH YOUR QUADRATUS LUMBORUM AND YOUR PIRIFORMIS
[URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBYjU7iBpck&pp=ygUXaGlwIGZsZXhpYmlsaXR5IG9ydXRpbmU%3D]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBYj...IG9ydXRpbmU%3D[/URL]
[URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NGWxpDlr8&pp=ygUXaGlwIGZsZXhpYmlsaXR5IG9ydXRpbmU%3D]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NG...IG9ydXRpbmU%3D[/URL]
[QUOTE=QuickShotSteve post_id=1699273723]slightly off topic but friend of mine, older dude, late 50s, has been having bad back pain for about 4-5 months. Finally went to a doctor a couple weeks ago, sent him to get MRI, just got results. Renal (kidney) cancer. Scheduled to get removed next week.

If youre in bad pain, dont be a hero, go to a doctor and get checked out.[/QUOTE]Jesus...i get the test results tomorrow
[QUOTE=PrehistoricUFO post_id=1699274153]Tank, your entire life you've been fat and this has ruined your body as you've aged and had additional injuries, etc.

Your big fat stomach PUTS STRAIN ON YOUR BACK and joints, and this greatly amplifies into chronic pain.

Why don't you fukkin man up and just diet down and lose weight FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE? Damn dude it isn't hard to EAT LESS. Have some fukkin self control instead of coping with stupid bullchit theories like this thread. Unreal.[/QUOTE]Well hello there dollar store david goggins. Yeah excess weight (LBM and fat) is extra strain on the joints. But also, sometimes joints naturally break down. Thats usually called rheumatoid arthritis. WHich is what I have. But ive found a flexibility routine that is working like fukking magic. When i get this back pain bull chit taken care of, its over for you bitches

i walk softly and carry a big stick

unlike the nazi above me

Already covered the "it comes with aging" part. It does happen, but the majority of the common range of back issues are probably caused by imbalances somewhere in the hip. My problem probably stems from never really learning to hip hinge so my glute medium just never really devloped correctly. But i'm learning now. It feels like my hips are being hugged
i have no idea who you are but are you one of the liberal idiots? Or is there more to the story

Get a few pairs of doc shole insoles and see which ones help the most, you'll be surprised what a good pair of corrective insoles can help alleviate your back pain.