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post 1699416493 03-19-2024, 09:06 AM
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Illegal aliens can now legally own guns

Can libs make it make sense?




Meanwhile the left wants to remove guns legally owned by American citizens

Illegal immigrants can now carry guns, a federal judge has ruled. At this point, it seems like illegals have as many rights as US citizens but without even half the responsibilities.

U.S. District Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman has ruled that an illegal immigrant's Second Amendment rights were violated when he was charged with unlawfully possessing firearms.

The case in question involves Heriberto Carbajal-Flores, an undocumented immigrant who was charged under 18 U.S.C § 922, a federal statute prohibiting illegal aliens from carrying guns or ammunition. However, Judge Coleman determined that this law, as applied to Carbajal-Flores, infringes upon his constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

The defense team successfully argued that the government failed to demonstrate how the statute aligns with America's historical tradition of firearm regulation, a requirement set forth by the Supreme Court in 2022. They contended that lifetime disarmament based solely on alienage or nationality lacks roots in U.S. history and tradition.

Remarkably, Judge Coleman noted that Carbajal-Flores has no prior convictions for felonies, violent crimes, or weapons offenses. She even acknowledged his claim that he obtained and used the handgun exclusively for self-protection during a period of documented civil unrest.

The implications of this ruling are profoundly troubling. By extending Second Amendment protections to illegal immigrants, the court has effectively prioritized the rights of non-citizens over the safety and security of American citizens. It sets a dangerous precedent that could lead to a surge in armed illegals , further compromising the US' already strained immigration enforcement efforts.

Moreover, this decision raises serious questions about the consistency and coherence of the legal system. How can anyone justify granting constitutional gun rights to those who have willfully violated immigration laws, while law-abiding citizens face increasing restrictions on their Second Amendment freedoms?

Source: Newsmax
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post 1699417863 03-19-2024, 09:31 AM
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U.S. District Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman has ruled that anillegal immigrant's Second Amendment rights were violated..

U.S. District Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman has ruled that anillegal immigrant's Second Amendment rights were violated..

U.S. District Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman has ruled that anillegal immigrant's Second Amendment rights were violated..
post 1699417923 03-19-2024, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
U.S. District Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman has ruled that anillegal immigrant's Second Amendment rights were violated..

U.S. District Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman has ruled that anillegal immigrant's Second Amendment rights were violated..

U.S. District Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman has ruled that anillegal immigrant's Second Amendment rights were violated..
As I said in another thread where this was brought up, How the hell are they going to pass the background checks?
Or will they just be given the benefit of the doubt?
post 1699417963 03-19-2024, 09:35 AM
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post 1699418653 03-19-2024, 09:53 AM
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These anti American activist judges aren't hiding their true intentions anymore
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post 1699418843 03-19-2024, 09:59 AM
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This is good for the 2A,
Doesn’t this open the door for country wide constitution carry?
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post 1699418853 03-19-2024, 09:59 AM
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post 1699420103 03-19-2024, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
This is good for the 2A,
Doesn’t this open the door for country wide constitution carry?
Seems to me the only way to make sense of this ruling is that they want to give illegals the same rights as US citizens as a first step to say illegals are actually US citizens. Especially considering the courts have been pretty second amendment restrictive.

At this point I just wish there was sanity and rational interpretation of law rather than judges making things up as they go in order to suit short term political goals. Judges have become political and created a twisted web of laws that don't make sense anymore.
post 1699420363 03-19-2024, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
This is good for the 2A,
Doesn’t this open the door for country wide constitution carry?
That’s how I saw it.

I don’t know anything about the judge, are they pro 2A and consistently rule not to infringe, or are they pro immigrant like is being spun here?
post 1699420853 03-19-2024, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
This is good for the 2A,
Doesn’t this open the door for country wide constitution carry?
Or they plan to revisit later and take away gun from illegals and everyone else in the next national crisis brought on by illegal gun crime.

Pessimistic sure, but liberal judges and politicians seem interested in infringing upon the right of law abiding citizens, not expanding them
post 1699421263 03-19-2024, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Or they plan to revisit later and take away gun from illegals and everyone else in the next national crisis brought on by illegal gun crime.

Pessimistic sure, but liberal judges and politicians seem interested in infringing upon the right of law abiding citizens, not expanding them
Sounds like a great time to become an illegal.
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post 1699421363 03-19-2024, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
That’s how I saw it.

I don’t know anything about the judge, are they pro 2A and consistently rule not to infringe, or are theypro immigrantlike is being spun here?
My guess is pro immigrant
Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Or they plan to revisit later and take away gun from illegals and everyone else in the next national crisis brought on by illegal gun crime.

Pessimistic sure, but liberal judges and politicians seem interested in infringing upon the right of law abiding citizens, not expanding them
Welp, when we think we saw clown world peaked, we see chit like this


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post 1699426823 03-19-2024, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By bluebeltATT⏩
These anti American activist judges aren't hiding their true intentions anymore
The rights granted by the constitution apply to everyone in the USA, not just citizens.
Not allowing non-citizens to own firearms is denying them their 2A rights, and is thus is unconstitutional, and anti-American.
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Imagine a country so cucked you not only allow foreign entities to invade you by the millions, but also arm them as well BAHAHAHAHA
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But they want to reduce 2A rights of citizens.

As usual, illegals given more right than americans.


BTW.. reports they're buying cars to without licenses as well.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
This is good for the 2A,
Doesn’t this open the door for country wide constitution carry?
you would think but i'm going to guess no.
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