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post 1699604453 03-23-2024, 10:46 AM
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Former Video Game Executive on When Woke Leaves Video Games



Cliffs: 3-4 more years
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

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post 1699605483 03-23-2024, 11:08 AM
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We need another games crash. At least in the west.
post 1699607593 03-23-2024, 11:58 AM
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Well...
- The economy keeps spelunking to new lows.

- Consumer purchasing power continues to shrink.

- The prices of necessities are worse than when we were in a global-fukking-pandemic.

- To top off this unending hellscape before us all, the quality of what was once simple escapism has also seen unprecedented lows as it turned into propaganda-filled, antagonistic and accusatory lectures from delusional, narcissistic marxists who hate the very people they're supposed to be making media for.

- Decreased spending coupled with high interest rates has been stirring a panic amongst higher ups in the tech industry who have been looking for any fat to trim amidst rapidly growing costs with longer returns on those high investments due to prolonged production times.

- The useless idiots who are intentionally ruining everything they touch can't help but out themselves because they're, again, narcissists, so even more people become aware of them and their intentions.

Either the people in charge wake up and realize that next quarter won't matter if they let the industry speedrun a crash because they couldn't tell some talentless activists to stick to making soy lattes in California.
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post 1699609273 03-23-2024, 12:41 PM
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3-4 years doesn't sound bad at all, hopefully whichever games are currently in production with this marxist / communist / activist / DEI gutter trash also bomb, they probably will, good riddance to trash.

Also they need to get rid of the untalented morons making games in addition to the propagandists, I.E. Halo infinite is a piece of sh!t game because it's not a true Halo game, they need innovation that makes the games better, not crap that doesn't align with the core game mechanics that made the franchise what it used to be at one time.
post 1699611233 03-23-2024, 01:31 PM
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Using this fat loser as a source for anything. Just lol.
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post 1699628613 03-23-2024, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Using this fat loser as a source for anything. Just lol.
Hello Pot, meet Kettle.
post 1699629753 03-23-2024, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Hello Pot, meet Kettle.
Are you confusing me with yourself, fatty?
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post 1699630053 03-23-2024, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Are you confusing me with yourself, fatty?
"everybody I don't agree with is fat"

Such insecurity.
post 1699635773 03-24-2024, 04:16 AM
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post 1699635893 03-24-2024, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Wow deep contribution to the topic here. Totally not triggered.
post 1699636893 03-24-2024, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Wow deep contribution to the topic here. Totally not triggered.
What's life like as the Numa Numa guy?
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post 1699636963 03-24-2024, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
What's life like as the Numa Numa guy?
What's life like being triggered all the time?
post 1699637933 03-24-2024, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
What's life like being triggered all the time?
Quick better block everyone and then make a thread on main misc talking about how people are mean to me.
Sig line can't be a novel
post 1699638023 03-24-2024, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted By bongowongo
Quick better block everyone and then make a thread on main misc talking about how people are mean to me.
Oh look, it's the other perma-triggered dude. Somehow I am not surprised you have nothing to contribute to this topic either.
post 1699638423 03-24-2024, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Oh look, it's the other perma-triggered dude. Somehow I am not surprised you have nothing to contribute to this topic either.
I mean, you haven't made a single on topic post either itt so I'm not sure why you'd choose that leg to stand on
post 1699642133 03-24-2024, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted By bongowongo
Quick better block everyone and then make a thread on main misc talking about how people are mean to me.
Jay, constantly claiming others are what he is, meme has been going strong for years now. JLoL
Originally Posted By freeburn
I mean, you haven't made a single on topic post either itt so I'm not sure why you'd choose that leg to stand on
Typical Jay
post 1699644323 03-24-2024, 10:23 AM
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Does every single thread in this sub just spiral into the same few losers insulting each other? Holy chit this is pathetic.
post 1699645693 03-24-2024, 10:59 AM
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A bunch of developers gathered at a recent game conference to scream together. They were screaming about layoffs and about the "mistreatment of marginalized communities within gaming."

So...they were screaming in defense of ESG and DEI despite them being a primary cause of all the layoffs they were screaming against?

I think it'll be a while before this poison is removed, if ever.
post 1699655193 03-24-2024, 03:29 PM
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Just support the Japanese and other foreign releases.
post 1699656783 03-24-2024, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Barteh
Does every single thread in this sub just spiral into the same few losers insulting each other? Holy chit this is pathetic.
In every thread it's always the same few users spewing an onslaught of personal attacks I need to defend myself from.

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Originally Posted By JayJ350
In every thread it's always the same few users spewing an onslaught of personal attacks I need to defend myself from.

You literally started it ITT. Unless you're the former Blizzard Dev that then went on to try to market his game with a bus that failed miserably.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
You literally started it ITT. Unless you're the former Blizzard Dev that then went on to try to market his game with a bus that failed miserably.
Lol @ pretending like you aren't constantly trying to start chit with me whenever possible. I can't even joke around with you without you getting all triggered and taking things in a far more personal direction. If someone bumps into you and your reaction is to start throwing punches, the overreaction is on your end.
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It might not be as prevalent in 4 years but it's definitely going still be around.

I think a lot of the smaller studios will just die off or get cancelled, it's hard to see the bigger woke companies like Naughty Dog, Bungie, Bioware and Remedy getting the same treatment when you consider how much money gets thrown at them.

I would be stoked we did see it disappear in 3-4 years though.
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Man, feel bad for all of the game developers out there that truly have a vision and passion for making good games. I have no doubt in my mind they do. It is all corrupt though and their vision can't be made possible due to corporate greed and wokeness
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Originally Posted By swolefnatic
Man, feel bad for all of the game developers out there that truly have a vision and passion for making good games. I have no doubt in my mind they do. It is all corrupt though and their vision can't be made possible due to corporate greed and wokeness
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Originally Posted By Barteh
Does every single thread in this sub just spiral into the same few losers insulting each other? Holy chit this is pathetic.
Pretty much. Hard to believe some people don't post here any longer. Such a great forum with Jay, Sir, and Coal arguing about irrelevant chit with people in almost every thread because they are so butthurt.
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Originally Posted By mgftp
Pretty much. Hard to believe some people don't post here any longer. Such a great forum with Jay, Sir, and Coal arguing about irrelevant chit with people in almost every thread because they are so butthurt.
Hello Pot, meet Kettle.
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Is this topic that divisive?

I think the woke crap is fine, as a tiny little niche that appeals to a fairly narrow audience (of people who both enjoy games and gobble up LGBTQ+ DEI stuff). Most of us are only the former, not the later, and games being influenced way too much by the Sweet Baby Incs of the world, from what I see -- just aren't very good.

The story, very niche and for me often very insulting and offensive, but gameplay, just seems like the wrong people are put at the helm and things spiral down. A lot going well beyond the DEI stuff, IMO, so much of it being AAA or now AAAA games having to play things so damn safe that they neuter the fun out of things. And on playing it safe, for years now two gay men having an uncomfortably long passionate makeout session has been the bell of the ball, something not just safe but critically adored and award-winning, so the suits (who could give no fuk) double and triple down on it, until we end up here.

The problem, like a cancer, many of the actual activists who do care (and no, not about gaming, but about two men having an uncomfortably long passionate makeout session), they're here, they're queer and they've infiltrated our shared hobby so much that it's not as easy as many of us might hope to just pivot away from this direction.

3-4 years to me sounds very optimistic. 3-4 years to just finish up whatever is in development and take the hits and just make sure new stuff being created now is less DEI-infused garbage. I don't know if you can do that, though. I think it's correcting but I think it's going to be 6-8 years and 6-8 years only if we have Good Luck and things going the (my opinion) right way with our culture for the next year or two.

People are starting to wake up to the Disney+, Sweet Baby Inc bullchit, but that doesn't mean we are for sure going to simmer down on that. Disney is not waving the white flag, no company I am aware of has admitted they did too much. Only some low level activists are being swept out, but cancer isn't that easy to remove, is it?
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Originally Posted By JUSA
Is this topic that divisive?

I think the woke crap is fine, as a tiny little niche that appeals to a fairly narrow audience (of people who both enjoy games and gobble up LGBTQ+ DEI stuff). Most of us are only the former, not the later, and games being influenced way too much by the Sweet Baby Incs of the world, from what I see -- just aren't very good.

The story, very niche and for me often very insulting and offensive, but gameplay, just seems like the wrong people are put at the helm and things spiral down. A lot going well beyond the DEI stuff, IMO, so much of it being AAA or now AAAA games having to play things so damn safe that they neuter the fun out of things. And on playing it safe, for years now two gay men having an uncomfortably long passionate makeout session has been the bell of the ball, something not just safe but critically adored and award-winning, so the suits (who could give no fuk) double and triple down on it, until we end up here.

The problem, like a cancer, many of the actual activists who do care (and no, not about gaming, but about two men having an uncomfortably long passionate makeout session), they're here, they're queer and they've infiltrated our shared hobby so much that it's not as easy as many of us might hope to just pivot away from this direction.

3-4 years to me sounds very optimistic. 3-4 years to just finish up whatever is in development and take the hits and just make sure new stuff being created now is less DEI-infused garbage. I don't know if you can do that, though. I think it's correcting but I think it's going to be 6-8 years and 6-8 years only if we have Good Luck and things going the (my opinion) right way with our culture for the next year or two.

People are starting to wake up to the Disney+, Sweet Baby Inc bullchit, but that doesn't mean we are for sure going to simmer down on that. Disney is not waving the white flag, no company I am aware of has admitted they did too much. Only some low level activists are being swept out, but cancer isn't that easy to remove, is it?
This happens to be a subject that some people really don't want attention being brought to. People simply discussing it makes them angry. They're the same people trying to say stuff like "things have never been better" who promote/consume the latest media.
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Originally Posted By JUSA
Is this topic that divisive?

I think the woke crap is fine, as a tiny little niche that appeals to a fairly narrow audience (of people who both enjoy games and gobble up LGBTQ+ DEI stuff). Most of us are only the former, not the later, and games being influenced way too much by the Sweet Baby Incs of the world, from what I see -- just aren't very good.

The story, very niche and for me often very insulting and offensive, but gameplay, just seems like the wrong people are put at the helm and things spiral down. A lot going well beyond the DEI stuff, IMO, so much of it being AAA or now AAAA games having to play things so damn safe that they neuter the fun out of things. And on playing it safe, for years now two gay men having an uncomfortably long passionate makeout session has been the bell of the ball, something not just safe but critically adored and award-winning, so the suits (who could give no fuk) double and triple down on it, until we end up here.

The problem, like a cancer, many of the actual activists who do care (and no, not about gaming, but about two men having an uncomfortably long passionate makeout session), they're here, they're queer and they've infiltrated our shared hobby so much that it's not as easy as many of us might hope to just pivot away from this direction.

3-4 years to me sounds very optimistic. 3-4 years to just finish up whatever is in development and take the hits and just make sure new stuff being created now is less DEI-infused garbage. I don't know if you can do that, though. I think it's correcting but I think it's going to be 6-8 years and 6-8 years only if we have Good Luck and things going the (my opinion) right way with our culture for the next year or two.

People are starting to wake up to the Disney+, Sweet Baby Inc bullchit, but that doesn't mean we are for sure going to simmer down on that. Disney is not waving the white flag, no company I am aware of has admitted they did too much. Only some low level activists are being swept out, but cancer isn't that easy to remove, is it?
Well in the end it's all about the money. If the woke trash fails to deliver financial success it will go away. (unless they don't care about profits of course but even so the party will stop when they run out of money anyway)

So far we see most woke products fail so I'm optimistic
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