Log In

Your email is not your username

Register

If you were a member of the old Bodybuilding.com forums and would like to reuse your previous username, you can request it below. We use your email only for registration and do not store it. For more information, please see our Privacy Policy.

Confirm your email

A registration code was sent to your email. Enter it here.

Welcome

You have successfully setup your account.

Sign in

Quick Navigation Bottom Misc
Forum
» Investment advice - DCA or lump sump into stocks/index fund?
  1. Results 1 to 14 of 14
post 1699642033 03-24-2024, 09:25 AM
-
#1
  1. MotorCityCobra
  1. MotorCityCobra
  2. Join Date: Jul 2015
  3. Location: Oslo, Norway
  4. Age: 35
  5. Posts: 4,936
  6. Rep Power: 52194

Investment advice - DCA or lump sump into stocks/index fund?

I have about 200k USD that i want to invest. Dont want to stock pick so just going to put it into an index for now.
Would you put it all in at once, or DCA for like a year?
post 1699642483 03-24-2024, 09:36 AM
-
#2
  1. meanstringbean
  2. Registered User
  1. meanstringbean
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Mar 2019
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 11,550
  6. Rep Power: 58418
Normally Id say lump sum it. But with valuations historically high due to AI run-up, and it being an election year, really hard to tell what direction the market will continue to go in. Dont sit on sidelines waiting for 'correction', but maybe break up your 200k into 18 equal amounts and invest continuously over the next year and a half?

Id also consider the idea of alternative investments like Real Estate. If you are a heavy cash buyer then now is not a bad time at all to get in. Not sure where you live, but in my area you could basically buy a condo or most of a duplex with that much capital and then just bank the rent
post 1699642723 03-24-2024, 09:43 AM
-
#3
  1. Robmnrd
  2. Who the **** was phone?!
  1. Robmnrd
  2. Who the **** was phone?!
  3. Join Date: Jan 2011
  4. Location: Michigan, United States
  5. Age: 34
  6. Posts: 6,472
  7. Rep Power: 69123
Originally Posted By MotorCityCobra
I have about 200k USD that i want to invest. Dont want to stock pick so just going to put it into an index for now.
Would you put it all in at once, or DCA for like a year?
I think statistically lump sum wins out when the length of time is decades+.

With that said, I understand the psychological impact of lump sum followed by a big dip in the market, so I'd say lump 50% now, DCA 25% over the next 12 months, and let the other 25% ride in like a HYSA or bonds or something in the 4.5+% range until that 12 months is up or until we do see a dip - whichever comes first - and go all in with it.

Statistical perfection is great, but sometimes 'feeling good' is nice too. Feeling secure isn't the worst thing in the world when you're young even if it means missing out on another 100k when you're 82 years old and chitting your pants all the time.

Just my .02
MISC Haxball Crew
(Haxball Username: "Jus' Saiyan...")

Misc Positivity and Never Neg Crew

I always pick second to last in the pick a number threads Crew
post 1699642833 03-24-2024, 09:44 AM
-
#4
  1. JackyChin
  2. Registered User
  1. JackyChin
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Nov 2023
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 3,042
  6. Rep Power: 14673
Normally Id say DCA it. But with valuations historically low due to the impending recession, and it being an election year, really hard to tell what direction the market will continue to go in. Dont jump in looking for 'a spike', but maybe take your 200k into one lump sum and and put it in now rather than waiting a year and a half?

Id also consider the idea of alternative investments like crypto. If you are a heavy cash buyer then now is not a bad time at all to get in. Not sure where you live, but in most of the world you could basically buy a Bitcoin or two with that much capital and then just bank the rest
post 1699643033 03-24-2024, 09:51 AM
-
#5
  1. SaviorSelfJT
  2. clownslayer
  1. SaviorSelfJT
  2. clownslayer
  3. Join Date: Aug 2010
  4. Posts: 12,855
  5. Rep Power: 166618
Lump sum is always the answer

If you received 200k in stocks from an inheritance, you could immediately sell it for cash then drip it into the market. But nobody would think that makes sense. This isn’t any different
Best lifts:
Bench press: 315x5
Squat: 465x1
Strict press: 205x5
Deadlift: 405x13 (conv tap'n'go with straps)
post 1699644383 03-24-2024, 10:25 AM
-
#6
  1. Destor
  2. Registered User
  1. Destor
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Apr 2012
  4. Location: Alberta, Canada
  5. Age: 41
  6. Posts: 43,481
  7. Rep Power: 254906
I’d maybe put like $30-40k in right off the bat. When things pull back, throw in another $10-20k; if they pull back further, put in another $20-30k; if it pulls back more, put in another $40k, etc.

Especially with markets at basically all time highs, the S&P is up like 50% in a year and a half. Something needs to pull back at some point, don’t know when or how much but it will.
post 1699645163 03-24-2024, 10:47 AM
-
#7
  1. sphinxbrah
  2. Registered User
  1. sphinxbrah
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Aug 2011
  4. Location: Ontario, Canada
  5. Age: 36
  6. Posts: 1,256
  7. Rep Power: 5285
Depends on your risk tolerance.

Statistically and historically, lump sum wins out.

But 200k is a good chunk of change. Can you stomach it if your timing happens to be bad? Will you be able to take comfort in the fact your choice was statistically sound?

I'd DCA it, but that is just me.

People love to ignore the PERSONAL part of "personal finances". There is nothing wrong with taking the strategy that you know will let you sleep easy at night, even if statistically it might not be the most likely to provide the highest return.

There is real value in the psychological side of things too. Paying off debt is another example.

"You'd make more money if you just made the minimum payments and invested the difference bro!". Maybe. But if the delta isn't large some people value the psychological freedom of 0 debt. Nothing wrong with that. But many miscers are autists. They'll call you an idiot because by carrying student loans for 5 more years you could have made an extra $500.
..::-Miscers Who Actually Lift Crew-::..
***Canadian Crew***
++ Positive Crew ++
S&P Crew
post 1699645543 03-24-2024, 10:54 AM
-
#8
  1. imbored205
  2. 7 inches
  1. imbored205
  2. 7 inches
  3. Join Date: Jul 2011
  4. Location: San Jose, California, United States
  5. Age: 35
  6. Posts: 3,347
  7. Rep Power: 38731
high yield savings

When Trump wins and the juices tank the stock market you can then put it in sp500 or some chit,
What comes around comes around
I want to believe
post 1699645733 03-24-2024, 11:00 AM
-
#9
  1. GaloisTheory
  2. Registered User
  1. GaloisTheory
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2014
  4. Posts: 13,915
  5. Rep Power: 83343
Lump sum

Time in the market beats timing the market.
Physics crew
post 1699646823 03-24-2024, 11:28 AM
-
#10
  1. Masterchieffer
  2. The Creampie Guy
  1. Masterchieffer
  2. The Creampie Guy
  3. Join Date: Nov 2007
  4. Location: United States
  5. Posts: 5,024
  6. Rep Power: 22666
Fishing tackle & Pepsi srs
post 1699670533 03-24-2024, 11:34 PM
-
#11
  1. sowilson
  2. Registered User
  1. sowilson
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Aug 2014
  4. Age: 67
  5. Posts: 6,145
  6. Rep Power: 25816
Lump sum. With the interest rates high and the FED indicating that they will be cutting rates over the next year bonds should go up. So 80% in a total market stock, 20% in a high quality bond fund would be a good mix. you can diversify some with some of the stock in an international stock fund but no biggy, depends on your risk tolerance.
post 1699670633 03-24-2024, 11:41 PM
-
#12
  1. BorderlineBrahh
  2. Banned
  1. BorderlineBrahh
  2. Banned
  3. Join Date: Mar 2024
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 236
  6. Rep Power: 0
200k? Sheeit id buy a boat
post 1699670883 03-24-2024, 11:56 PM
-
#13
  1. Abzu
  2. Registered User
  1. Abzu
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Apr 2020
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 8,174
  6. Rep Power: 47196
I know you said you don't want to stock pick but you can't force moves in the market, you have to take what it gives you at any given point in time, right now the markets are historically high.

If you feel silly having 200K on the sidelines I would highly recommend stock picking because that is what the market is giving us right now as many individual stocks are cheap right now.

I would recommend that you find those cheap stocks, identify those with a dividend and make sure they have the ability to pay it, sit out and wait for the pullback while you collect $$$.



I say $$$ because you have stock appreciation, dividends and you can sell covered calls.

If the market pulls back, you should be fine, since you bought cheap and they pay.

If you can't identify what level of pull back to enter long then wait for ~5% down.
I: Self, Lord and Master.

"I rub my hands when my palms itch."

"I call you Son not because you Shine but because you Mine."
post 1699671473 03-25-2024, 12:30 AM
-
#14
  1. Abzu
  2. Registered User
  1. Abzu
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Apr 2020
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 8,174
  6. Rep Power: 47196
Oh, I forgot to mention that if the market pulls back then it will be the tech/ai stocks that get hit the hardest and generally when growth falls out of favor, stability picks up.
I: Self, Lord and Master.

"I rub my hands when my palms itch."

"I call you Son not because you Shine but because you Mine."
Quick Navigation Top Misc
Bookmarks
Digg.com
Digg
del.icio.us
del.icio.us
Stumbleupon.com
StumbleUpon
Google.com
Google
Facebook.com
Facebook
Posting Permissions
  1. You may not post new threads
  2. You may not post replies
  3. You may not post attachments
  4. You may not edit your posts