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post 1699677623 03-25-2024, 06:43 AM
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I am fking mind BLOWN there are people who feel sorry for the terrorists in Moscow

like what the fuk is in these lib cuck minds? They actually feel remorse and sadness and grief for the pain and suffering they are enduring while being tortured after being captured.

like WHAT?! how can any sane person not wish for the longest most painful forms of torture for these scumbags?
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Nothing about being a lib cuck, and everything to do with disinformation.

It looks like people are in two camps:
1. These guys who were caught are the culprits and they're going to be tortured.
2. Russia has done false flag attacks on their own citizens before, and the current leader doesn't have a solid track record when it comes to caring about the lives of others. It's unusual that the shooters got into a car and just left, and were found several hours later heading toward... a military border? In a country that's filled with corruption rot? Whose media lies about almost everything?

Do you understand both sides? Everybody wants these guys to be caught, but one has to wonder if these guys are the actual culprits and not just scapegoats. Does Putin have a rational behind why he would want to scapegoat? Yes. He is globally unpopular and the Russian youth are getting pissed. Russian men are getting pissed for getting drafted and Russian women are getting pissed that their fathers, husbands, brothers, and sons are getting drafted. Nothing like a mass shooting and delivering justice to unify a nation.
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They are cucks and brainwashed that Poots (along with Trump) is one of the worst men alive.
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post 1699678173 03-25-2024, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted By RainingBlood
Nothing about being a lib cuck, and everything to do with disinformation.

It looks like people are in two camps:
1. These guys who were caught are the culprits and they're going to be tortured.
2. Russia has done false flag attacks on their own citizens before, and the current leader doesn't have a solid track record when it comes to caring about the lives of others. It's unusual that the shooters got into a car and just left, and were found several hours later heading toward... a military border? In a country that's filled with corruption rot? Whose media lies about almost everything?

Do you understand both sides? Everybody wants these guys to be caught, but one has to wonder if these guys are the actual culprits and not just scapegoats. Does Putin have a rational behind why he would want to scapegoat? Yes. He is globally unpopular and the Russian youth are getting pissed. Russian men are getting pissed for getting drafted and Russian women are getting pissed that their fathers, husbands, brothers, and sons are getting drafted. Nothing like a mass shooting and delivering justice to unify a nation.
Expounding on this a little bit.

It seemed fairly obvious to me it was a false flag. I’m very consistent with my views. I also believe lots of things that happen over here are false flags.

It was fairly concerning to me that immediately after everyone on this board started spamming things like “cia/mossad did it”

But logically this makes no sense, where’s the advantage to us? All the advantage for this event is for Putin. It brings his country together. He blames Ukraine and mobilizes harder etc etc..

Now I don’t give two fuks about whoever is being tortured. Or Russia, or ukraine. I don’t care about the guys being tortured, it doesn’t make logical sense too when there’s literally a war going on with thousands of people being chucked into the war grinder on the regular.

Maybe anyone feeling compassion for those people. Should start pressuring our own govt from backing the fuk off and bringing and end to the eternal slaughter.
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Why torture them though? What will that achieve. Just execute them and be done with it. I don't understand people who will take an atrocity and try to punish it by committing their own atrocity.
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post 1699678483 03-25-2024, 07:12 AM
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Remember when that tranny killed a bunch of kids and they were more upset about the killer being "misgendered"
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Originally Posted By RainingBlood
Nothing about being a lib cuck, and everything to do with disinformation.

It looks like people are in two camps:
1. These guys who were caught are the culprits and they're going to be tortured.
2. Russia has done false flag attacks on their own citizens before, and the current leader doesn't have a solid track record when it comes to caring about the lives of others. It's unusual that the shooters got into a car and just left, and were found several hours later heading toward... a military border? In a country that's filled with corruption rot? Whose media lies about almost everything?

Do you understand both sides? Everybody wants these guys to be caught, but one has to wonder if these guys are the actual culprits and not just scapegoats. Does Putin have a rational behind why he would want to scapegoat? Yes. He is globally unpopular and theRussian youth are getting pissed. Russian men are getting pissed for getting drafted and Russian women are getting pissed that their fathers, husbands, brothers, and sons are getting drafted.Nothing like a mass shooting and delivering justice to unify a nation.
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post 1699678833 03-25-2024, 07:24 AM
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Assuming they actually have the perpetrators, which from history of Russia & other dictatorships/third world hellholes is dubious. Especially the claim they caught them 250 miles away heading to Ukraine-quite possible it is just four randoms they picked up-how exactly did these guys spend ages shooting up a concert venue in Moscow no less & not some tiny area, escape the heavily armed authorities & get 250 miles away?

If you remember the 1999 Russian bombings that was recently part of the Netflix Nuclear War documentary show-it was FSB agents planting them in buildings, massacring people & trying to blame Muslims for it, so Putin could win the election to replace the drunk permanently. Cops arrested them, then the government announced it was a training exercise-despite the fact the lab results showed live explosives. Of course the bombings then magically stopped.

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post 1699679073 03-25-2024, 07:36 AM
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It's mostly stupid women. They feel sorry for fish and chickens too.
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There's a military base less than 3km (2 miles) from the concert hall. It took more than an hour for police/military to get there. Not just less than 2 miles away, a freeway leading up to the concert hall that you can cover in 1.5 minutes at 80mph.

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Originally Posted By Schnitzl
There's a military base less than 3km (2 miles) from the concert hall. It took more than an hour for police/military to get there. Not just less than 2 miles away, a freeway leading up to the concert hall that you can cover in 1.5 minutes at 80mph.

Yep, it is bs. I could believe they could escape & get a distance away from some remote region, but 45 minutes away from the Kremlin? The national guard can & will mobilise within minutes to quell even a small protest on Moscow streets, yet they took 90 minutes to do so for a massacre in a Moscow venue-that they could have arrived at in a quarter of an hour or less? The US passed their intelligence on about possible attacks weeks before & yet not only was security not beefed up, it was actually less.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
They are cucks and brainwashed that Poots (along with Trump) is one of the worst men alive.
People like you are exactly why Trump is unpopular with a big portion of the population. Fukking LOL at comparing Trump to Poots. Poots has had MANY men killed, Poots has changed actual law to let him stay in power longer, Poots literally blew Prigozhen out the sky then said he blew himself up, and retards like yourself actually believe it.
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Originally Posted By chalup
People like you are exactly why Trump is unpopular with a big portion of the population. Fukking LOL at comparing Trump to Poots. Poots has had MANY men killed, Poots has changed actual law to let him stay in power longer, Poots literally blew Prigozhen out the sky then said he blew himself up, and retards like yourself actually believe it.
Speaking of cucks...
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Because most of them are literally terrorists. They support Hamas.
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Bruh, these people have been simping for and supporting Hamas. Should be no surprise how they weep for every terrorist piece of chit. They are the same people whose heart bleeds for every career criminal as well.

They give zero phucks about victims.
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If this happened in the US I would probably be in the false flag camp. It's what they do here to get support for going to war for whatever contrived reason they may have.
Not sure what Russa has to gain by doing it though. The Russian government pretty much does whatever it wants and really doesn't care if the populace supports it or not.
Who knows, but if they have the people who did it, then by all means throw them in the wood chipper.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
Why torture them though? What will that achieve. Just execute them and be done with it. I don't understand people who will take an atrocity and try to punish it by committing their own atrocity.
Like raping and murdering white children in Haiti? An atrocity that you 'understand' and justified.
Originally Posted By kcadrenalin
If this happened in the US I would probably be in the false flag camp. It's what they do here to get support for going to war for whatever contrived reason they may have.
Not sure what Russa has to gain by doing it though. The Russian government pretty much does whatever it wants and really doesn't care if the populace supports it or not.
Who knows, but if they have the people who did it, then by all means throw them in the wood chipper.
This, plus the body cam of the actual siege released by ISIS...this is not a false flag.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver
But logically this makes no sense, where’s the advantage to us? All the advantage for this event is for Putin. It brings his country together. He blames Ukraine and mobilizes harder etc etc..
The 4 were from Tajikistan. Moscow and other areas have brought in large numbers of ex soviet muslim immigrants from these countries to work in factories and mines for the war.
An attack like this would increase tensions within Russia around these immigrants, either by forcing the cheap labor to leave due to hostility thus slowing down production for the war effort or making Putin look weak to nationalists or the general public for allowing this to occur.

It's interesting that Putin came out immediately after the attack and started talking about "Diversity is our strength".

If the Russians false flagged this event which they are capable of doing, they would have used Ukrainian Tatars or pro Ukrainian Chechens instead of central asians from Tajikistan.
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The terrorists and anyone who sympathize with them should be thrown in a den of hungry pitbulls on live TV.
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Sounds like this type of torture has been common in Russia for a very long time, the only difference here is it’s being broadcast rather than hidden.

Also maybe these guys should have gone directly to Crocus when the attack began 2 miles away rather than spending 60minutes shopping for a battery first
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
Why torture them though? What will that achieve. Just execute them and be done with it. I don't understand people who will take an atrocity and try to punish it by committing their own atrocity.
literally what other people said. It is to send a message.
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Originally Posted By kcadrenalin
If this happened in the US I would probably be in the false flag camp. It's what they do here to get support for going to war for whatever contrived reason they may have.
Not sure what Russa has to gain by doing it though. The Russian government pretty much does whatever it wants and really doesn't care if the populace supports it or not.
Who knows, but if they have the people who did it, then by all means throw them in the wood chipper.
They did it in 1999-they were blowing up buildings & killing the residents to blame it on Muslims-so Putin would be guaranteed of succeeding Yeltsin permanently. Police actually arrested multiple FSB agents planting bombs in a building after somebody spotted them going in with bags, then not long after the government announced it was a training exercise-only problem is the lab results showed they were carrying live explosives & then miraculously the bombings just stopped after that.

Either two things-less likely Putin found some patsies to take the fall, guaranteeing them escape & then double-crossing them. Or more likely this was a legit Islamic attack, but despite the US giving him warnings weeks ago he decreased security & ordered his troops not to respond. The military base is nearby so they could have been there in 10-15 minutes, they make it to the streets of Moscow in that time to arrest/beat a handful of people protesting about him, but it takes them 90 minutes when Russian citizens are being slaughtered by a hit squad?

How could they possibly attack a target in Moscow for 20-30 minutes-when there is a military base under 2 miles away & then make it 250 miles away, unless Putin wanted them to? Then of course he says they were on their way to Ukraine-the whole thing seems like he allowed a terror attack to happen on purpose by withdrawing security at venues, ordered his men to hold off responding & then made up a story about them heading for Ukraine, so he can try to stir up more domestic support for his ridiculous war via propaganda.
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Originally Posted By Uhyeahokay
The 4 were from Tajikistan. Moscow and other areas have brought in large numbers of ex soviet muslim immigrants from these countries to work in factories and mines for the war.
An attack like this would increase tensions within Russia around these immigrants, either by forcing the cheap labor to leave due to hostility thus slowing down production for the war effort or making Putin look weak to nationalists or the general public for allowing this to occur.

It's interesting that Putin came out immediately after the attack and started talking about "Diversity is our strength".

If the Russians false flagged this event which they are capable of doing, they would have used Ukrainian Tatars or pro Ukrainian Chechens instead of central asians from Tajikistan.
That does make sense thanks for perspective.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
Why torture them though? What will that achieve. Just execute them and be done with it. I don't understand people who will take an atrocity and try to punish it by committing their own atrocity.
Prevention.

What you should do is torture the shooters in most horrific ways possible and show that on TV at primetime. Keep them alive as long as medically possible, then torture them again and again. The future shooters will think twice about their future shooting plans.

In fact do the same to all the families friends and relatives of the shooters.

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The future shooters should be disincentivized. A violent death is what they already expect, so that’s not gonna cut it, they signed up for that. Society should go much much further to prevent these events by showing the terrorists that this is a bad idea.
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I don’t think there’s any “sending a message” to the people in groups like ISIS, they are surely already very accustomed to heinous chit.

It was surprising they even tried to escape rather than just blow themselves up during the attack. Or why they didn’t off themselves when they knew they would be caught, that’s pretty perplexing.
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Originally Posted By Destor
I don’t think there’s any “sending a message” to the people in groups like ISIS, they are surely already very accustomed to heinous chit.

It was surprising they even tried to escape rather than just blow themselves up during the attack. Or why they didn’t off themselves when they knew they would be caught, that’s pretty perplexing.
Whole thing looks like usual Putin/Russian bs-even if they weren't strapped with suicide vests-which you would think they would detonate ala the Beslan school siege, Ariana Grande concert in Manchester etc, then you would think they would at least drive at the Russian soldiers & fire at them in their final Jihad-instead they supposedly just surrendered like cowards & allowed themselves to be beaten, have body parts cut off & put on a show trial before execution. Putin & his puppets story sure as hell doesn't add up & isn't the total truth.
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Originally Posted By Bingu
like what the fuk is in these lib cuck minds? They actually feel remorse and sadness and grief for the pain and suffering they are enduring while being tortured after being captured.

like WHAT?! how can any sane person not wish for the longest most painful forms of torture for these scumbags?
Need an example^^^^, my R friend told me a trial and life in prison/no death penalty there.
I told her they deserved no trial, and immediate death, and was told that is not how we do things here.
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