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Thread: Has protein consumption been overstated for the past two decades?

post 1699741103 03-26-2024, 12:47 PM
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Has protein consumption been overstated for the past two decades?

It looks like the consensus about protein consumption to build muscle has changed. The literature suggests that 0.8 - 1.2g/kg of lean mass is sufficient to build muscle. So, for a 190 lbs person, 104g protein at max should be sufficient to build muscle and make progress. I'm currently at 120g right now at 190 lbs. Not sure if this is enough.

Evidently, the recommendation of 1-2g/lb of body weight comes from a wide misunderstanding perpetuated by the fitness industry to make more money selling more protein products.
post 1699741343 03-26-2024, 12:53 PM
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all i know is that i can eat over "maintenance" when i'm just eating meat and vegetables and still lose weight


protein is your friend. don't be a bitch
post 1699741373 03-26-2024, 12:53 PM
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Probably lol.
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Not really. I've been around 90-100 g at times for long stretches. It was totally fine at first but I actually ended up running into issues with gains, soreness, and recovery as the months went on. These net away as soon as I just upped my protein and made no other changes. That being said, I don't think anyone needs more than 1 gram per lb, but I haven't heard more than that being recommended by any srs fitness industry professional or even dumbass bro influencer in years.
post 1699741583 03-26-2024, 12:59 PM
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2x your bodyweight in kg from complete sources. More if you have ass genetics.
post 1699741853 03-26-2024, 01:10 PM
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Usually only matters when cutting imo
post 1699742003 03-26-2024, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted By yieldtonothing⏩
all i know is that i can eat over "maintenance" when i'm just eating meat and vegetables and still lose weight


protein is your friend. don't be a bitch
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Probably lol.
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post 1699743153 03-26-2024, 01:43 PM
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Nah. If anything most people who are even just a little bit active should be getting 1.5g/kg. But whey protein isn't all it's cracked up to be, waaaay overrated. srs
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post 1699743183 03-26-2024, 01:43 PM
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Try and find out.
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post 1699743243 03-26-2024, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Tuga88⏩
Try and find out.
This is my answer^^
Each of us have varied dietary requirements that can only be learned by testing.
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Originally Posted By RainingBlood⏩
It looks like the consensus about protein consumption to build muscle has changed. The literature suggests that 0.8 - 1.2g/kg of lean mass is sufficient to build muscle. So, for a 190 lbs person, 104g protein at max should be sufficient to build muscle and make progress. I'm currently at 120g right now at 190 lbs. Not sure if this is enough.

Evidently, the recommendation of 1-2g/lb of body weight comes from a wide misunderstanding perpetuated by the fitness industry to make more money selling more protein products.
Good thread. I've always thought this. I have had no scientific basis for it other than my intuition and the protein supplement industry's financial incentives. Makes no sense why our diet should require so much of it. Time is starting to vindicate me

For f@ggy BB goals it still matters but there will be consequences to overall health
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post 1699744563 03-26-2024, 02:09 PM
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Most people think that if they weigh 250 and are 30 % bodyfat they need 250 grams of protein per day.

Lean body mass is the key. Fat isnt doing anything metabolically so no need to eat a bunch of extra protein to sustain it.

So this person would probably have about 175 lbs of lean mass and should eat protein according to that.
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Originally Posted By stezus⏩
Good thread. I've always thought this. I have had no scientific basis for it other than my intuition and the protein supplement industry's financial incentives. Makes no sense why our diet should require so much of it. Time is starting to vindicate me

For f@ggy BB goals it still matters but there will be consequences to overall health
Eating excessively shortens lifespan and creates health problems.

I'd rather be smaller and healthier ovr bigger and sick. People should learn to be happy with the hand they've been dealt
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How very fitting ofyouto pose this question, OP, seeing as you are one of the most notorious protein guzzlers on this forum.
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you need enough protein to recover your muscles, thats it

you don't need to eat 300 grams of protein a day
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post 1699747373 03-26-2024, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted By stezus⏩
Good thread. I've always thought this. I have had no scientific basis for it other than my intuition and the protein supplement industry's financial incentives. Makes no sense why our diet should require so much of it. Time is starting to vindicate me

For f@ggy BB goals it still matters but there will be consequences to overall health
The original study frequently referenced evidently stated you need 1g/kg of LEAN BODY MASS. Americans interpreted this as 1g/lb of body mass and the rest is history.

I adjusted my daily intake and now take in 130-135g protein for weighing 190 lbs srs.
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Also remember that some studies use enhanced bodybuilders, which is different than a college basketball player or a football player.
Protein consumption varies, and you learn this listening to bodybuilding coaches and gurus in video interviews.

You pick a number, adjust and see how your body responds.
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Originally Posted By RainingBlood⏩
The original study frequently referenced evidently stated you need 1g/kg of LEAN BODY MASS. Americans interpreted this as 1g/lb of body mass and the rest is history.

I adjusted my daily intake and now take in 130-135g protein for weighing 190 lbs srs.
LOL at being on a bodybuilding forum for 14 years and only having 135 pounds of LBM. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
post 1699762843 03-26-2024, 08:53 PM
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you dont need tons of protein to build muscle. look at animals that are herbivores that have tons of muscles. Also, prisoners eat chit diets and still maintain muscle. Its more about genetics and testosterone
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
you dont need tons of protein to build muscle. look at animals that are herbivores that have tons of muscles. Also, prisoners eat chit diets and still maintain muscle. Its more about genetics and testosterone
Macros play a huge factor in performance and body competition. I don't care what nerd article you can pull out of your ass, I can vouch from experience, as well as 99% of the real bodybuilding community. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
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its about protein quality due to leucine and nitrogen balance; not all protein is the same
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