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post 1704187231 07-26-2024, 02:13 PM
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If a super intelligent alien race came to earth…

And said super intelligent alien race treated humans like cattle, and we were a succulent delicacy to them, would it be objectively bad for them to kill and consume us?

Of course we wouldn’t like it or want it done to us, but would it be wrong? Morally speaking?
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Originally Posted By PissantSoldier
And said super intelligent alien race treated humans like cattle, and we were a succulent delicacy to them, would it be objectively bad for them to kill and consume us?

Of course we wouldn’t like it or want it done to us, but would it be wrong? Morally speaking?
It would depend on their concept of morality. But yeah, we would be fair game.
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No, it wouldn't be wrong at all because our ideas of civility and morality would mean nothing to the aliens who operate on their own set of values/norms. Now we as humans can do everything in our power to fight against the aliens and defend ourselves, but if the aliens prevail, then so be it. The powerful species wins.
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Originally Posted By Shortfuze
No, it wouldn't be wrong at all because our ideas of civility and morality would mean nothing to the aliens who operate on their own set of values/norms. Now we as humans can do everything in our power to fight against the aliens and defend ourselves, but if the aliens prevail, then so be it. The powerful species wins.
So morality doesn’t actually exist it’s a social construct between humans?
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Originally Posted By PissantSoldier
And said super intelligent alien race treated humans like cattle, and we were a succulent delicacy to them, would it be objectively bad for them to kill and consume us?

Of course we wouldn’t like it or want it done to us, but would it be wrong? Morally speaking?
We are sentient. So yes it would be immoral. Same as eating a gorilla or a dolphin would be immoral.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
We are sentient. So yes it would be immoral. Same as eating a gorilla or a dolphin would be immoral.
but where is it written in stars that being sentient means anything? i mean an alien race millions of years more advanced may look at us like ants...perhaps they will humanely end lives before eating us, but maybe not.
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Originally Posted By chalup
So morality doesn’t actually exist it’s a social construct between humans?
Yes. You only need to take a look at 5,000 years of human history and see how so many our values/ethics/morals/norms etc have changed over time because people decided to do so since it was in their common interest or were coerced/compelled into it by a great power.
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
but where is it written in stars that being sentient means anything? i mean an alien race millions of years more advanced may look at us like ants...perhaps they will humanely end lives before eating us, but maybe not.
More advanced doesn't mean anything. Ants don't have advanced communication for example. It's not like there's an alien species that's so advanced that it loses the ability to communicate with us. Because that isn't a thing.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
More advanced doesn't mean anything. Ants don't have advanced communication for example. It's not like there's an alien species that's so advanced that it loses the ability to communicate with us. Because that isn't a thing.
But why would beings millions of more years advanced have any desire to talk to us?
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Originally Posted By Shortfuze
Yes. You only need to take a look at 5,000 years of human history and see how so many our values/ethics/morals/norms etc have changed over time because people decided to do so since it was in their common interest or were coerced/compelled into it by a great power.
Exactly. This is why atheism is a dangerous game. However we got to this point, we should cherish it, and try to maintain it, not strip away integral parts. Atheists have been so preoccupied with whether they could (destroy God), they didn’t stop to think if they should.

It's funny how atheists always claim that they are moral people and don't need a sky daddy to tell them what to think,having grown up in societies that were shaped by Christian ethics for a thousand years. That's exactly where your morality comes from.

Life is nothing more than an ongoing experiment. We reached an unbelievable peak around the 60s to the 2000s. Since then, we have allowed the crazies far too much power and things are spiraling out of control. The idea that in order to "progress" we need to tear down the greatest societies that have ever existed is painfully retarded.

This pretty much sums it up

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Being an edgy atheist became ghey in like 2013 anyway. If anyone wants serious debates on religion and morality, go to Reddit.
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
But why would beings millions of more years advanced have any desire to talk to us?
If we are to be taken as any indication than we can say that intelligent life is interested in contacting other intelligent life.
The closer we approach the uncertainty of life's ending the more we wish to trade all of the things we have acquired in exchange for all of the things we have lost: wealth for youth, knowledge for fresh curiosity, resignation for hope. We'd trade our wisdom for new experiences, but it is wisdom that will teach us that at the end of the road the only new experience is death.
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Originally Posted By MyGhettoFantasy
If we are to be taken as any indication than we can say that intelligent life is interested in contacting other intelligent life.
But do you think that such advanced beings may know of other life -- perhaps even some closer to their level? Maybe some they are currently in contact with? And what knowledge could they gain from us? They would likely have the tech to map out our brains and every thought we've ever had. It may be hard to fathom but we would essentially be like a little ant farm.
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If they only consumed the lefties like you, I'd see zero issue and I would cheer them on.
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
But why would beings millions of more years advanced have any desire to talk to us?
Same reason we study lower primates. Just because we're curious and we can.
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OP you could have continued in the same thread
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
Same reason we study lower primates. Just because we're curious and we can.
And what if they've already studied us without us ever knowing? Why would they need to communicate at that point? What could we tell them that they don't already know? We don't do a in-depth study of each individual ant hill. The same way they may not care about communicating with each accumulation of life throughout the universe. Think with some depth.
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
And what if they've already studied us without us ever knowing? Why would they need to communicate at that point? What could we tell them that they don't already know? We don't do a in-depth study of each individual ant hill. The same way they may not care about communicating with each accumulation of life throughout the universe. Think with some depth.
You're trying to get somewhere, but it's not coming out the way you think it is. Humans have taught Primates sign language. Again, any intelligent species will be curious enough to want to communicate with another intelligent species.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
You're trying to get somewhere, but it's not coming out the way you think it is. Humans have taught Primates sign language. Again, any intelligent species will be curious enough to want to communicate with another intelligent species.
I think you lack the depth in thinking to understand. The way we currently study things probably wouldn't equate to way beings millions of more years advanced would study things. They may have been studying the planet earth since its beginning.
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Aliens aren’t real

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Originally Posted By GooBaaa
Aliens aren’t real

Read your bible
Doesn't the Bible condemn sex outside of marriage? Strong everything
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he he he

I'm glad the Christians ITT believe it's subjective

Makes me wonder a great many things about their worship of the Demiurge
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
I think you lack the depth in thinking to understand. The way we currently study things probably wouldn't equate to way beings millions of more years advanced would study things. They may have been studying the planet earth since its beginning.
The depth in thinking, which I lack but you have. Right. You probably don't know this, but the way we study things hasn't change since the beginning of time. It's still observation and experimentation. There's nothing outside of that to be done. There isn't a lack in thinking, you're trying to talk about things that you can't possibly comprehend, after all, you barely finished high school and are very vocal about your disdain for higher education.
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The leftist cultist has to resort to aliens (lmao) to conjure up some argument for morality that he doesn't even believe in?

PissantSoldier been fuming all day and this is what he comes up with lmao.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
You're trying to get somewhere, but it's not coming out the way you think it is. Humans have taught Primates sign language. Again, any intelligent species will be curious enough to want to communicate with another intelligent species.
This is.... based upon nothing.

Eddie did ask what does being sentient have to do with morality and it being something universal and objective? What's the argument there?

Is it immoral to eat octopus and pig? How about chicken?
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Originally Posted By PissantSoldier
This is.... based upon nothing.

Eddie did ask what does being sentient have to do with morality and it being something universal and objective? What's the argument there?

Is it immoral to eat octopus and pig?
Common sense, people don't like to be fuked with, brutalized, etc, common sense dictates that morality stems from how one wants to be treated. Even violent criminals don't like to be on the receiving end. That's a much better argument than needing god or something else to tell you how to behave. Why would any sentient being be any different, regardless of where it comes from?

Also, he veered off into why they would want to study us, then mixed that with "maybe they already studied us". He's all over the place, and nothing he's saying makes much sense.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
The depth in thinking, which I lack but you have. Right. You probably don't know this, but the way we study things hasn't change since the beginning of time. It's still observation and experimentation. There's nothing outside of that to be done. There isn't a lack in thinking, you're trying to talk about things that you can't possibly comprehend, after all, you barely finished high school and are very vocal about your disdain for higher education.
The "beginning of time" -- we would be talking about beings that are 1000s of times more advanced than humans since "the beginning of time" -- ie recorded history. Insults can't save you here.
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
The "beginning of time" -- we would be talking about beings that are 1000s of times more advanced than humans since "the beginning of time" -- ie recorded history. Insults can't save you here.
That's a cop out little buddy. Kinda like when you say you'll pray for someone after they wreck you. It means nothing. You should have gone to college instead of to the YMCA.

Also, nowhere did I insult you. I simply stated the truth, or did you get get a bachelors since you last denounced higher education?
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Originally Posted By PissantSoldier
This is.... based upon nothing.

Eddie did ask what does being sentient have to do with morality and it being something universal and objective? What's the argument there?

Is it immoral to eat octopus and pig? How about chicken?



It's a hypothetical to get retards like you to think about the utter nonsense that dribbles from the side of your slack jaw.

I don't really know why you find it funny, but I suppose any actual thoughts are quite funny to a low IQ pleb.

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