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07-26-2024, 05:00 PM
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07-26-2024, 05:23 PM
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Free speech > your feelings
You don't have to like it, agree with it, support it, or associate with it but people have to accept that their feelings don't supersede an individuals rights to offend them.
You don't have to like it, agree with it, support it, or associate with it but people have to accept that their feelings don't supersede an individuals rights to offend them.
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07-26-2024, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Irezumi⏩
100%. I'm happy this guy can say this and not get in trouble.Free speech > your feelings
You don't have to like it, agree with it, support it, or associate with it but people have to accept that their feelings don't supersede an individuals rights to offend them.
You don't have to like it, agree with it, support it, or associate with it but people have to accept that their feelings don't supersede an individuals rights to offend them.
07-26-2024, 05:29 PM
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elon musky said he would fix twitter now all there is racist **** and of whores everywhere. good job jew do boy musk. lol the media manipulated most of yalls hate towards the blacks. who owns the media the jews. you been got by the jews again
07-26-2024, 05:34 PM
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Free speech is a facade. Like the alt above me pointed out...absolute free speech is a cesspool.
Hence why they have porn on there. You can just make stuff up and lie without consequence. People just say whatever for a reaction. It's a chitshow.
freedom of ideas is one thing, but if you have no boundaries then you get inundated with filth and smut.
Hence why they have porn on there. You can just make stuff up and lie without consequence. People just say whatever for a reaction. It's a chitshow.
freedom of ideas is one thing, but if you have no boundaries then you get inundated with filth and smut.
07-26-2024, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted By heiltrump2024⏩
I do somewhat agree in that speech should be 100% free however, nothing is free from consequences. So I don't personally agree with this gentleman but would never attempt to stop him. But imo...your rights to say whatever you please don't protect you from the consequences of said words.100%. I'm happy this guy can say this and not get in trouble.
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07-26-2024, 05:51 PM
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Free Speech Makes Free People
The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression
The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression
07-26-2024, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted By heiltrump2024⏩
cuz ur a pussssy100%. I'm happy this guy can say this and not get in trouble.
07-26-2024, 06:09 PM
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I've definitely seen a lot more racism like this during the last few months. But it's usually pretty deep in threads and not stuff you're just going to see while scrolling, so who cares.
07-26-2024, 06:11 PM
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If you can't say the N-word, do you really live in a free society?
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07-26-2024, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
Yeah agreedFree speech is a facade. Like the alt above me pointed out...absolute free speech is a cesspool.
Hence why they have porn on there. You can just make stuff up and lie without consequence. People just say whatever for a reaction. It's a chitshow.
freedom of ideas is one thing, but if you have no boundaries then you get inundated with filth and smut.
Hence why they have porn on there. You can just make stuff up and lie without consequence. People just say whatever for a reaction. It's a chitshow.
freedom of ideas is one thing, but if you have no boundaries then you get inundated with filth and smut.
07-26-2024, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted By GovIsLyingBrah⏩
He's a pussy because he supports free speech and an individuals rights to hate everyone equally yet you cry about racism being bad towards one group but should be welcomed towards others?cuz ur a pussssy
Let me check my math on that...
Yup, seems perfectly reasonable.
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07-26-2024, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
With Twitter, it's all about what gets promoted. I still would rather see the N word on there occasionally rather than seeing obvious astroturfing and censorship galore that is tightly controlled to fit a narrative.Free speech is a facade. Like the alt above me pointed out...absolute free speech is a cesspool.
Hence why they have porn on there. You can just make stuff up and lie without consequence. People just say whatever for a reaction. It's a chitshow.
freedom of ideas is one thing, but if you have no boundaries then you get inundated with filth and smut.
Hence why they have porn on there. You can just make stuff up and lie without consequence. People just say whatever for a reaction. It's a chitshow.
freedom of ideas is one thing, but if you have no boundaries then you get inundated with filth and smut.
Obviously racism makes you squirm a little bit, but this is a much preferred situation to the alternative that we've had on Social Media for the last decade.
07-26-2024, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
To be fair, not everything is binary. I don't need to go to extremes. I get what you're saying though and gun to my head, I'd prefer the way twitter is over sensorship.With Twitter, it's all about what gets promoted. I still would rather see the N word on there occasionally rather than seeing obvious astroturfing and censorship galore that is tightly controlled to fit a narrative.
Obviously racism makes you squirm a little bit, but this is a much preferred situation to the alternative that we've had on Social Media for the last decade.
Obviously racism makes you squirm a little bit, but this is a much preferred situation to the alternative that we've had on Social Media for the last decade.
It's with everything nowadays. Look at politics - if I don't pick red, I'm blue. Insanity srs. I hate them both
07-26-2024, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
I'm fine with words. None of that bothers me. It's the porn and stuff.With Twitter, it's all about what gets promoted. I still would rather see the N word on there occasionally rather than seeing obvious astroturfing and censorship galore that is tightly controlled to fit a narrative.
Obviously racism makes you squirm a little bit, but this is a much preferred situation to the alternative that we've had on Social Media for the last decade.
Obviously racism makes you squirm a little bit, but this is a much preferred situation to the alternative that we've had on Social Media for the last decade.
But the point is, it's twitter. So when Elon says it is opening it up for total free speech...this is what you get. Which is fine, but don't expect anything different. If you really want absolute free speech then you get much more than just some racism. Porn, snuff, peedos, and so on. A cesspool lol
07-26-2024, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
I would argue that it's not a cesspool. If the conversation of humanity is being driven to porn, n-word, and such, perhaps there is something there that is truly intelligent and beautiful. These are conversations that we couldn't have until nowI'm fine with words. None of that bothers me. It's the porn and stuff.
But the point is, it's twitter. So when Elon says it is opening it up for total free speech...this is what you get. Which is fine, but don't expect anything different. If you really want absolute free speech then you get much more than just some racism. Porn, snuff, peedos, and so on. A cesspool lol
But the point is, it's twitter. So when Elon says it is opening it up for total free speech...this is what you get. Which is fine, but don't expect anything different. If you really want absolute free speech then you get much more than just some racism. Porn, snuff, peedos, and so on. A cesspool lol
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07-26-2024, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
most likely bots trying to make twitter look bad.I've definitely seen a lot more racism like this during the last few months. But it's usually pretty deep in threads and not stuff you're just going to see while scrolling, so who cares.
if the only really seeing this and re posting it are bots it's going to stay there buried.
wonder how hard someone had to search to find that?
wonder if the person responsible for posting it then went and made a big stink about it on other platforms?
that seems more realistic than an account with a hitler face posting the n word don't it?
07-26-2024, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
I totally understand where you're coming from but when it comes to issues like constitutional rights, it's all or nothing. We have to accept that our rights should be awarded to all..up to and including you're worst enemies or degenerate things like porn...now I'm a Nhilist and assuming you're Christian? If so, then you should grasp free will and understand that it's your responsibility to teach your Christian morals to your children or peers. I personally think porn is a cancer but it's not my place to stop it or attempt to stop folks from watching it. Imo...the worst thing I can do to that industry is simply choose to not participate.I'm fine with words. None of that bothers me. It's the porn and stuff.
But the point is, it's twitter. So when Elon says it is opening it up for total free speech...this is what you get. Which is fine, but don't expect anything different. If you really want absolute free speech then you get much more than just some racism. Porn, snuff, peedos, and so on. A cesspool lol
But the point is, it's twitter. So when Elon says it is opening it up for total free speech...this is what you get. Which is fine, but don't expect anything different. If you really want absolute free speech then you get much more than just some racism. Porn, snuff, peedos, and so on. A cesspool lol
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07-26-2024, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted By abdominal69⏩
It's not. Ever read a liverstream twitch chat of one of those influencers? There's a reason why you have "moderators" to keep standards of speech.I would argue that it's not a cesspool. If the conversation of humanity is being driven to porn, n-word, and such, perhaps there is something there that is truly intelligent and beautiful. These are conversations that we couldn't have until now
Instead you just have spam of porn, snuff/death videos, all comments are full of other spam, and none of it is because of en masse conversation about these topics. It's all manipulated algorithms and marketing/spam related schemes.
Again, it's better to have 1 place like this maybe as a pressure valve for society that allows this, but for most people they should just avoid it. It's absurd. I made a twitter a while back and after 1 month the majority of my followers were spam onlyfans bots, and my timeline somehow went from normal political commentary to videos of blacks doing heinous crimes and pro tranny talk. It was psychotic.
Kids especially should never be on that, but it's too hard to regulate.
07-26-2024, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Irezumi⏩
Yea but the other thing you have to realize is that there is no such thing as "free speech" and never has been. Things like slander/defamation, speaking of illegal conduct, physical threats and so on. You are free to say those things, but in the same way you're free to kill someone. You have consequence.I totally understand where you're coming from but when it comes to issues like constitutional rights, it's all or nothing. We have to accept that our rights should be awarded to all..up to and including you're worst enemies or degenerate things like porn...now I'm a Nhilist and assuming you're Christian? If so, then you should grasp free will and understand that it's your responsibility to teach your Christian morals to your children or peers. I personally think porn is a cancer but it's not my place to stop it or attempt to stop folks from watching it. Imo...the worst thing I can do to that industry is simply choose to not participate.
And yea I'm Christian, so I don't have the public sphere to have freedom of speech and expression without moderation. You must have moderation unless you want naked people in public for example.
07-26-2024, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
Oh yeah..100%..which is why I stated in my earlier post about nothing being free from consequences. When I say free speech, it pertains to the law. Not so much in terms of other consequences such as moral issues or people not associating with you. And I'll be the first to admit that our society has fallen into that little known city in Genesis 19 and falls far from the Christian principles that the nation was built on...however..I still stick to the concept of accepting rights for all. Even something as disgusting as porn or racismYea but the other thing you have to realize is that there is no such thing as "free speech" and never has been. Things like slander/defamation, speaking of illegal conduct, physical threats and so on. You are free to say those things, but in the same way you're free to kill someone. You have consequence.
And yea I'm Christian, so I don't have the public sphere to have freedom of speech and expression without moderation. You must have moderation unless you want naked people in public for example.
And yea I'm Christian, so I don't have the public sphere to have freedom of speech and expression without moderation. You must have moderation unless you want naked people in public for example.
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