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post 1704367871 07-30-2024, 06:33 PM
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Does anyone actually expect Trump to win at this point?

Trump is just as owned by the Jews as Harris or Biden. That said , he is far better because he's tough on immigration/the border at least. We had far better immigration numbers under Trump.

But at the end of the day, the election is over. Democrats already won in 2018, 2020, 2021 GA senate run off, 2022, 2022 GA senate run off, mostly all special elections etc. Harris can get both Obama and Biden voters. The vast majority of blacks and Hispanics will vote for her. Blacks will come out in doves to vote for her, as they did for Obama. Most women, esp. non-white women will vote for her. Jews will vote for her 70%+ of the time.

Just a new poll today showed Harris in the lead in most swing states, including in NV and AZ.https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/Add to that there is still the VP pick, DNC and the official nomination of Harris. Add that to the official Trump conviction in September. Those will all boost her numbers. The RNC and VP pick is over. All the ammo has run out from the GOP.

The media worships Harris and bashes Trump 24/7. It's over.
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post 1704367921 07-30-2024, 06:34 PM
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They bashed him in 2016 and what happened again?
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Originally Posted By nn586
They bashed him in 2016 and what happened again?
Clinton was the most hated politician in history nor was she running as an incumbent.

Look at the elections leading up to the 2016 election. 2010, 2014 and various special elections looked nothing like 2018, 2020, 2021 GA senate run off, 2022, 2022 GA senate run off, mostly all special elections since 2017.
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He will, it's too big to rig, Jack
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Originally Posted By TheParish
He will, it's too big to rig, Jack
Lets hope so.
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post 1704368531 07-30-2024, 06:49 PM
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Being president helps either Trump or Harris and their closest friends and relatives. It will do nothing for you - surely miscers aren't this dumb thinking elections matter. People learnt this the hard way with Obama who literally did the opposite of what people expected.

What matters is the system of government (like judicial/congress/balance of power). Unless that changes you will just get small variations of the same. Trump is also not popular for most people, polls are already showing her leading in most places. People will simply vote "anyone but Trump".
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Originally Posted By OnlyHope
Being president helps either Trump or Harris and their closest friends and relatives. It will do nothing for you - surely miscers aren't this dumb thinking elections matter. People learnt this the hard way with Obama who literally did the opposite of what people expected.

What matters is the system of government (like judicial/congress/balance of power). Unless that changes you will just get small variations of the same. Trump is also not popular for most people, polls are already showing her leading in most places. People will simply vote "anyone but Trump".
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post 1704370881 07-30-2024, 07:34 PM
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2016 they didn't think he would actually win so they didn't rig the election. You saw the real numbers in 2016.

They will never allow that again. Now they just rig it. Nobody is allowed to see the source code of the voting machines, it's proprietary. They rig it to count trump votes as Democrat voters. If they do a recount they use the same rigged machined
post 1704371591 07-30-2024, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
2016 they didn't think he would actually win so they didn't rig the election. You saw the real numbers in 2016.

They will never allow that again. Now they just rig it. Nobody is allowed to see the source code of the voting machines, it's proprietary. They rig it to count trump votes as Democrat voters. If they do a recount they use the same rigged machined
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I will not be surprised if Trump or Kamala wins either way. I have always disagreed with people who say "____ candidate is an idiot". One does not achieve that level of social position by being an "idiot". They may not be an academic scholar/scientist but there are other kinds of intelligence. They may have a kind of social intelligence that a scientist/scholar does not
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He’ll be winning right up until they count the mail in votes
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He'll have to crush her on the debate stage politely.
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I live in rural Pennsylvania, where no one has voted for a Democrat since Lyndon Johnson in 1964. Harris signs are everywhere, little to no Trump signs. My friends and neighbors have taken to calling her "Ol' Oakland Kam" because we know she's tough as nails and will fight for us. She just can't say it in Trump's politically correct America. People here refer to "Ol' Oakland Kam" with a certain fondness, like she's a fellow neighbor from town, and remember her living in Scranton for many years, and most of her life, we speak of Kamala like she's kin around these parts. If Trump is losing the Pennsylvania Metal Workers then he doesn't stand a chance.
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Didn't Trump STEAL the ELECTION the FIRST TIME? Killary got the MOST VOTES but StormyDon Trumpstein "won" the Election?
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It does seem like trump has lost tons of momentum but it could just be the media making it seem that way. I will say his crypto speech at the crypto convention was terrible
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
2016 they didn't think he would actually win so they didn't rig the election. You saw the real numbers in 2016.

They will never allow that again. Now they just rig it. Nobody is allowed to see the source code of the voting machines, it's proprietary. They rig it to count trump votes as Democrat voters. If they do a recount they use the same rigged machined
The FIX is IN
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Originally Posted By theraskal
Didn't Trump STEAL the ELECTION the FIRST TIME? Killary got the MOST VOTES but StormyDon Trumpstein "won" the Election?
well ya see 'round these parts candidates compete for the electoral college because that's how we select the winner.
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Yeah Trump just downer have any dirt on Kamala. The Biden debate means nothing now and Trump refuses to debate Kamala. Also the news of Kamala being the new nominee basically made everyone stop talking about the Trump assassination except for a few conspiracy theorists

And worst things worst they’ll just cheat and rig it anyway

I don’t see a Trump victory
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It'll be close again, but Trump should be able to beat the dingbat.
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Originally Posted By OnlyHope
Being president helps either Trump or Harris and their closest friends and relatives. It will do nothing for you - surely miscers aren't this dumb thinking elections matter. People learnt this the hard way with Obama who literally did the opposite of what people expected.

What matters is the system of government (like judicial/congress/balance of power). Unless that changes you will just get small variations of the same. Trump is also not popular for most people, polls are already showing her leading in most places. People will simply vote "anyone but Trump".
trump helped me a lot when his SC got rid of AA
post 1704379331 07-31-2024, 12:01 AM
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I believe polls have him winning the EC. Of course people are excited and think he'll win.


Get out and vote.
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Democrats own the FBI, CIA, NSA, Homeland Security, DOJ. Trump isn’t winning anything except an orange jumpsuit and three free meals and a bunk. Democrats are the real threat to democracy.
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01
Yeah Trump just downer have any dirt on Kamala.
One thing i'm noticing is he doesn't really attack her much on policy. He mentioned the Border Czar thing a couple of times, but he's really obsessed with mocking her for her laugh and intelligence which has proven to do nothing against a candidate.

He needs to attack her on her role as DA and contrast it with how she will run the country.
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Originally Posted By nn586
They bashed him in 2016 and what happened again?
Y'all have zero clue how much Democrats fear Trump. Blacks fear him. White women fear him. LGBTQ+ fear him. This ain't 2016 where everyone thought it was a joke and he didn't have a chance.

People really fear Trump and will come out in droves this election. Harris will easily win this.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey
Y'all have zero clue how much Democrats fear Trump. This ain't 2016 where everyone thought it was a joke and he didn't have a chance.
This.

Not to mention, Trump was an unknown in 2016. Hell, he even said it himself;"What do you have to lose?"

Well, people now know how he governs and have strong opinions in one way or another.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey
Y'all have zero clue how much Democrats fear Trump. Blacks fear him. White women fear him. LGBTQ+ fear him. This ain't 2016 where everyone thought it was a joke and he didn't have a chance.

People really fear Trump and will come out in droves this election. Harris will easily win this.
Blumpf won the white female vote by over double digit margins both times
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Originally Posted By John
Blumpf won the white female vote by over double digit margins both times
That was before the abortion changes LOL.
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I can't see a scenario where a guy like Trump wins over a person twenty years younger with a massive amount of real political experience. At least, that shouldn't happen in any reasonable country, but the US isn't reasonable anymore.

He's also a completely different candidate than in 2016. Much older, much more unhinged and there's just SO much ammunition against him on every level compared to someone like Harris. Only thing standing in her way is she's a woman and not white.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey
That was before the abortion changes LOL.
GOP won them in the 2022 midterms as well, right in the aftermath of Roe
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Tried to silence him
Tried to have him sent to jail
Tried to kill him

There is zero chance they allow him to win... They will set the world on fire first. For them, it will be easier to rebuild from the ashes than to have Trump disolve their foothold in western civilization.

Trump is literally the final chip to fall before civilization goes into a long dark winter. If you've watched recent elections in Europe they will literally go to any length to close this deal out.

What comes next is a one world cashless government....
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