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Remember when the ATF tortured American babies and took pics over their dead bodies?
Not saying the branch devinians were the greatest people of all time but the ATF has a habit of making morally questionable people look like saints. this was the Waco siege. The FBI was involved too and of course engaged in war crimes and a massive cover up. Ironically the same blood thirsty hostage rescue team was involved in the ruby ridge standoff earlier the same year. And also killed woman and children there as well. The history of both is fascinating and honesty the ATF should have been abolished the 90s. The YouTube channel wendigoon gives an indepth history of both events. There are dozens of dead woman and children in that burned rubble. The ATF flew their flag on the pile of rubble after using their tanks to drive over the fresh graves of those who died by ATF gunfire.


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Originally Posted By ThatGuy950⏩
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Facts. All cause the dude was entrapped into cutting a few shotgun barrels down which is a bs law anyways...
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1. Ruby Ridge was 1992, Waco was 1993-so not the same year.
2. There were three flags raised-ATF, Flag Of Texas & the US Flag.
3. Nobody to blame but the people who didn't comply. Even the guy at Ruby Ridge later said he regretted not showing up for court & taking his punishment like a man. The authorities pandered to Koresh-even giving him airtime & he reneged on his promise to let people go & surrender.
Those parents chose to take their kids into that cult-they killed their own kids. FBI got a load of people out via negotiations. But when the guy stops negotiating & lies to you over & over, what are you supposed to do?
2. There were three flags raised-ATF, Flag Of Texas & the US Flag.
3. Nobody to blame but the people who didn't comply. Even the guy at Ruby Ridge later said he regretted not showing up for court & taking his punishment like a man. The authorities pandered to Koresh-even giving him airtime & he reneged on his promise to let people go & surrender.
Those parents chose to take their kids into that cult-they killed their own kids. FBI got a load of people out via negotiations. But when the guy stops negotiating & lies to you over & over, what are you supposed to do?
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Originally Posted By ThatGuy950⏩
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lmfao
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Baffles my mind how 98% of Americans don’t know who Michael Hastings is
This was also a recent assasination (in 2013) and sloppy one
They went code red on his azz and also exposed just how much in control they are and also exposed their tech
Also funny enough, if you look at google trends when Michael Hastings was starting to gain google search traction, all of the sudden the Boeing whistle blower psyop came out of no where and MH search trends plummeted like clock work
This was also a recent assasination (in 2013) and sloppy one
They went code red on his azz and also exposed just how much in control they are and also exposed their tech
Also funny enough, if you look at google trends when Michael Hastings was starting to gain google search traction, all of the sudden the Boeing whistle blower psyop came out of no where and MH search trends plummeted like clock work
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Originally Posted By gesten⏩
Another one like Danny Casolaro & Danny Webb who committed suicide & tried to make it look like a hit from 'the man' because they were 'onto something huge'-even though he like Webb had already published his 'big expose' he was also a drug addict. Even his wife & family believe he topped himself.Baffles my mind how 98% of Americans don’t know who Michael Hastings is
This was also a recent assasination (in 2013) and sloppy one
They went code red on his azz and also exposed just how much in control they are and also exposed their tech
Also funny enough, if you look at google trends when Michael Hastings was starting to gain google search traction, all of the sudden the Boeing whistle blower psyop came out of no where and MH search trends plummeted like clock work
This was also a recent assasination (in 2013) and sloppy one
They went code red on his azz and also exposed just how much in control they are and also exposed their tech
Also funny enough, if you look at google trends when Michael Hastings was starting to gain google search traction, all of the sudden the Boeing whistle blower psyop came out of no where and MH search trends plummeted like clock work
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
Lmao how naive are youAnother one like Danny Casolaro & Danny Webb who committed suicide & tried to make it look like a hit from 'the man' because they were 'onto something huge'-even though he like Webb had already published his 'big expose' he was also a drug addict. Even his wife & family believe he topped himself.
1. He never published his expose because he was murdered
2. Imagine thinking the family and wife wasn’t threatened or paid, or that it’s even the family that even said that
3. Does this sound or look like a drug addict to you?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gzLL5u...bnRlcnZpZXc%3D
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08-15-2024, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted By gesten⏩
1. He never published the next big thing-because it didn't exist. His big expose was the McChrystal stuff.Lmao how naive are you
1. He never published his expose because he was murdered
2. Imagine thinking the family and wife wasn’t threatened or paid, or that it’s even the family that even said that
3. Does this sound or look like a drug addict to you?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gzLL5u...bnRlcnZpZXc%3D
1. He never published his expose because he was murdered
2. Imagine thinking the family and wife wasn’t threatened or paid, or that it’s even the family that even said that
3. Does this sound or look like a drug addict to you?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gzLL5u...bnRlcnZpZXc%3D
2. Well, they went on the record & it is strange-because usually the widow & family are out there promoting the conspiracy theories-like the Casolaro family. What were they threatened with or paid off about exactly?
3. Yes & that he was a drug addict is beyond question-
In an interview with writer Ray Sawhill, Hastings's older brother, Jonathan Hastings, recounts how he had flown to L.A. to help his brother shortly before the accident because he had "got the impression that he was having a manic episode, similar to one he had had 15 years ago...", at which time "drugs had been involved..."
After failing to convince his brother to check voluntarily into a drug rehabilitation program, or fly back to Vermont to stay with family, he started making plans with his other brother to attempt to "force Mike into checking himself into a hospital or detox center." When asked directly whether his brother might have died from some sort of foul play, Jonathan responded "I really rule out foul play entirely.
I might have been suspicious if I hadn't been with him the day before he died. After all, he definitely was investigating and writing about a lot of sensitive subjects. But based on being with him and talking to people who were worried about him in the weeks leading up to his death, and being around him when he had had similar problems when he was younger, I was pretty much convinced that he wasn't in danger from any outside agency.
Multiple drugs were detected in his body at autopsy as well-as in many cases likely making his paranoia even worse.
08-15-2024, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Reality & truth are never popular with conspiracy nuts/orange man cult members.Look at this scumbag red coat fascist. Go fuk yourself.
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
You're not even american.1. Ruby Ridge was 1992, Waco was 1993-so not the same year.
2. There were three flags raised-ATF, Flag Of Texas & the US Flag.
3. Nobody to blame but the people who didn't comply. Even the guy at Ruby Ridge later said he regretted not showing up for court & taking his punishment like a man. The authorities pandered to Koresh-even giving him airtime & he reneged on his promise to let people go & surrender.
Those parents chose to take their kids into that cult-they killed their own kids. FBI got a load of people out via negotiations. But when the guy stops negotiating & lies to you over & over, what are you supposed to do?
2. There were three flags raised-ATF, Flag Of Texas & the US Flag.
3. Nobody to blame but the people who didn't comply. Even the guy at Ruby Ridge later said he regretted not showing up for court & taking his punishment like a man. The authorities pandered to Koresh-even giving him airtime & he reneged on his promise to let people go & surrender.
Those parents chose to take their kids into that cult-they killed their own kids. FBI got a load of people out via negotiations. But when the guy stops negotiating & lies to you over & over, what are you supposed to do?
So youropinion = DISCARDED
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Man the stupid games stupid prizes crew has a different tone itt for some reason.
Lol @ devinians. Clearly you're well researched.
Lol @ devinians. Clearly you're well researched.
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
Ruby ridge was botched from the beginning. They have him a court date, changed the date to a month later by accident which he thought was the correct date, and then changed it back. He had the impression the date had been moved but it was the courts mistake but the judge was a dik. And nah, the ATF didn't really try to negotiate in either. And yes, they did fly the ATF, Texas, and us flag. But that's not their fukking property1. Ruby Ridge was 1992, Waco was 1993-so not the same year.
2. There were three flags raised-ATF, Flag Of Texas & the US Flag.
3. Nobody to blame but the people who didn't comply. Even the guy at Ruby Ridge later said he regretted not showing up for court & taking his punishment like a man. The authorities pandered to Koresh-even giving him airtime & he reneged on his promise to let people go & surrender.
Those parents chose to take their kids into that cult-they killed their own kids. FBI got a load of people out via negotiations. But when the guy stops negotiating & lies to you over & over, what are you supposed to do?
2. There were three flags raised-ATF, Flag Of Texas & the US Flag.
3. Nobody to blame but the people who didn't comply. Even the guy at Ruby Ridge later said he regretted not showing up for court & taking his punishment like a man. The authorities pandered to Koresh-even giving him airtime & he reneged on his promise to let people go & surrender.
Those parents chose to take their kids into that cult-they killed their own kids. FBI got a load of people out via negotiations. But when the guy stops negotiating & lies to you over & over, what are you supposed to do?
If the ATF did their job, they wouldn't need coverups.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
I didn't say they were good people. And we're a cult. But the ATF using tanks, flammable cs gas, grenade launchers, psychological warfare is a bit much you think?Man the stupid games stupid prizes crew has a different tone itt for some reason.
Lol @ devinians. Clearly you're well researched.
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Originally Posted By bsrkoacar2⏩
Ruby Ridge & Waco were both botched. The inside man the Feds put in at Waco was rumbled right away-he bragged about his gun knowledge & had very little, while they had a stockpile of weapons & knew pretty much everything & said fake stuff about guns that he then agreed with.Ruby ridge was botched from the beginning. They have him a court date, changed the date to a month later by accident which he thought was the correct date, and then changed it back. He had the impression the date had been moved but it was the courts mistake but the judge was a dik. And nah, the ATF didn't really try to negotiate in either. And yes, they did fly the ATF, Texas, and us flag. But that's not their fukking property
If the ATF did their job, they wouldn't need coverups.
If the ATF did their job, they wouldn't need coverups.
That plant also warned the Feds that they knew the Feds & ATF were coming-a fed has asked the postman where it was & his daughter was a bigwig in Koresh's cult, so the postie went straight there & told them.
Yes, the court date might have been botched-but that was the reason they were there, the guy refused to appear in court & the Feds came under fire when they went to get him. He had no intention of turning up at court, as he had made clear multiple times previously-if he had then as the aftermath showed he would have either walked, or just served a short sentence. He said himself later that he regretted his decision.
Koresh should have been taken in late 1992 when he was out of the compound, but even so like RR it was his decision to do what he did. the decision of other adults there to stay & force their kids to stay & Koresh made the decision to lie to the feds & renege on his promise to release the remaining kids.
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Originally Posted By BalognaNbeans⏩
Koresh wasn't a tyrant?The usual faqqots in here defending tyrants
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So... you[b][i]AREN'T [/i][/b]British?
So you're a liar....
Then opinion = DISCARDED, REGARDLESS.
So... you[b][i]AREN'T [/i][/b]British?
So you're a liar....
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
Literally wrong on everything you post, it’s just laughable at this point.1. He never published the next big thing-because it didn't exist. His big expose was the McChrystal stuff.
2. Well, they went on the record & it is strange-because usually the widow & family are out there promoting the conspiracy theories-like the Casolaro family. What were they threatened with or paid off about exactly?
3. Yes & that he was a drug addict is beyond question-
In an interview with writer Ray Sawhill, Hastings's older brother, Jonathan Hastings, recounts how he had flown to L.A. to help his brother shortly before the accident because he had "got the impression that he was having a manic episode, similar to one he had had 15 years ago...", at which time "drugs had been involved..."
After failing to convince his brother to check voluntarily into a drug rehabilitation program, or fly back to Vermont to stay with family, he started making plans with his other brother to attempt to "force Mike into checking himself into a hospital or detox center." When asked directly whether his brother might have died from some sort of foul play, Jonathan responded "I really rule out foul play entirely.
I might have been suspicious if I hadn't been with him the day before he died. After all, he definitely was investigating and writing about a lot of sensitive subjects. But based on being with him and talking to people who were worried about him in the weeks leading up to his death, and being around him when he had had similar problems when he was younger, I was pretty much convinced that he wasn't in danger from any outside agency.
Multiple drugs were detected in his body at autopsy as well-as in many cases likely making his paranoia even worse.
2. Well, they went on the record & it is strange-because usually the widow & family are out there promoting the conspiracy theories-like the Casolaro family. What were they threatened with or paid off about exactly?
3. Yes & that he was a drug addict is beyond question-
In an interview with writer Ray Sawhill, Hastings's older brother, Jonathan Hastings, recounts how he had flown to L.A. to help his brother shortly before the accident because he had "got the impression that he was having a manic episode, similar to one he had had 15 years ago...", at which time "drugs had been involved..."
After failing to convince his brother to check voluntarily into a drug rehabilitation program, or fly back to Vermont to stay with family, he started making plans with his other brother to attempt to "force Mike into checking himself into a hospital or detox center." When asked directly whether his brother might have died from some sort of foul play, Jonathan responded "I really rule out foul play entirely.
I might have been suspicious if I hadn't been with him the day before he died. After all, he definitely was investigating and writing about a lot of sensitive subjects. But based on being with him and talking to people who were worried about him in the weeks leading up to his death, and being around him when he had had similar problems when he was younger, I was pretty much convinced that he wasn't in danger from any outside agency.
Multiple drugs were detected in his body at autopsy as well-as in many cases likely making his paranoia even worse.
Mercedes Benz did multiple crash tests to show their vehicles could not explode in such a way. willing to testify and made a claim to the LAPD, but they turned MB away.
Former White House counter-terrorism expert Richard Clarke stated in June that Hastings' car crash was “consistent with a car cyber attack," in which an automobile is actually controlled by a third party electronically.
Could not explode like that if no transmission was in the vehicle (it wasn’t dum dum)
Gotta love the Jewish ambulance being the first & only on the scene lol
OP..read through this.
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
Lmao1. He never published the next big thing-because it didn't exist. His big expose was the McChrystal stuff.
2. Well, they went on the record & it is strange-because usually the widow & family are out there promoting the conspiracy theories-like the Casolaro family. What were they threatened with or paid off about exactly?
3. Yes & that he was a drug addict is beyond question-
In an interview with writer Ray Sawhill, Hastings's older brother, Jonathan Hastings, recounts how he had flown to L.A. to help his brother shortly before the accident because he had "got the impression that he was having a manic episode, similar to one he had had 15 years ago...", at which time "drugs had been involved..."
After failing to convince his brother to check voluntarily into a drug rehabilitation program, or fly back to Vermont to stay with family, he started making plans with his other brother to attempt to "force Mike into checking himself into a hospital or detox center." When asked directly whether his brother might have died from some sort of foul play, Jonathan responded "I really rule out foul play entirely.
I might have been suspicious if I hadn't been with him the day before he died. After all, he definitely was investigating and writing about a lot of sensitive subjects. But based on being with him and talking to people who were worried about him in the weeks leading up to his death, and being around him when he had had similar problems when he was younger, I was pretty much convinced that he wasn't in danger from any outside agency.
Multiple drugs were detected in his body at autopsy as well-as in many cases likely making his paranoia even worse.
2. Well, they went on the record & it is strange-because usually the widow & family are out there promoting the conspiracy theories-like the Casolaro family. What were they threatened with or paid off about exactly?
3. Yes & that he was a drug addict is beyond question-
In an interview with writer Ray Sawhill, Hastings's older brother, Jonathan Hastings, recounts how he had flown to L.A. to help his brother shortly before the accident because he had "got the impression that he was having a manic episode, similar to one he had had 15 years ago...", at which time "drugs had been involved..."
After failing to convince his brother to check voluntarily into a drug rehabilitation program, or fly back to Vermont to stay with family, he started making plans with his other brother to attempt to "force Mike into checking himself into a hospital or detox center." When asked directly whether his brother might have died from some sort of foul play, Jonathan responded "I really rule out foul play entirely.
I might have been suspicious if I hadn't been with him the day before he died. After all, he definitely was investigating and writing about a lot of sensitive subjects. But based on being with him and talking to people who were worried about him in the weeks leading up to his death, and being around him when he had had similar problems when he was younger, I was pretty much convinced that he wasn't in danger from any outside agency.
Multiple drugs were detected in his body at autopsy as well-as in many cases likely making his paranoia even worse.
Refer to the comment above
But on a side note, since you copy and pasted this:
“In an interview with writer Ray Sawhill, Hastings's older brother, Jonathan Hastings, recounts how he had flown to L.A. to help his brother shortly before the accident because he had "got the impression that he was having a manic episode, similar to one he had had 15 years ago...", at which time "drugs had been involved..."
Where is this interview?..Have you seen the interview with your own eyes? Have you seen a video of it? Is it video recorded?
No No and No lmao. How fukin gullible are you my guy literally parroting **** from lines of text without no independent thought or ability to question it holy fukin shiit
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