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post 1705129721 08-16-2024, 06:55 PM
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How "Conservatives" Will Lose The Cultural War (Pic)

It's over. Liberals are the opposite of liberal, and conservatives are the opposite of conservative.

This is how the UK and many EU countries were conquered. They had two main parties who acted outside of the political labels, but people are so fukking stupid they still think the parties act how they're labeled. You now have a liberal "right" and a communist "left." There is no such thing as conservatism anymore. You lost. You played the same game republicans used to clown democrats for just to get votes and you lost your cultural advantage. It's over.

Next we'll have onlyfans girls running for office for republicans, our rallies will be based around rappers, online prostitutes and drinking alcohol. So far it has just been a taste. Then you had some fat rapper chick headline the RNC...THE RNC about politics and she has a face tattoo. You officially lost your vantage point being a Christian based political party. You no longer have the moral high ground lmao. Political theater baby! Welcome to America!





"Attractive conservative women are now posing in bikinis after illiberal and boring leftists tried and failed to mock Anna Paulina Luna. What do you think of this trend?"

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Your premise for this argument is that republicans are the Christian party.


That's old school, we don't want to be that. It's not about religion. It's simply a party about pushing against crazy liberal ideology of unreasonably high taxes, weak borders, weak support for law enforcement, easy on crime, anti-white, anti-male, anti family-value societies.


We do not need to be the party of Christians. We can be science believing, even pro choice people.


We just need to push against the craziest on the left.
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Sad to see how far the Republican party eroded since 2016. This is no longer your grandfathers conservative party, that is for sure.



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Originally Posted By PoundLifter
Your premise for this argument is that republicans are the Christian party.


That's old school, we don't want to be that. It's not about religion. It's simply a party about pushing against crazy liberal ideology of unreasonably high taxes, weak borders, weak support for law enforcement, easy on crime, anti-white, anti-male, anti family-value societies.


We do not need to be the party of Christians. We can be science believing, even pro choice people.


We just need to push against the craziest on the left.
Oh okay. I get it.

You lost. Do you not understand how horrible that logic is? You have ZERO foundation. You'll just keep sliding into the oblivion lmao. You can't be serious?

Let me show you how it goes.
Libtard: "Gays need to get married!"
Cuck: "No, that goes against the idea of a Christian marriage."
Libtard: "BUT LOVE IS LOVE BIGOT. It won't even affect you!"
Cuck: "Well...yea I don't want to be a biggot. Guess it won't affect us."

Gays in 2024. You can't be a conservative and complain about gays if your premise is your logical standpoint. You are the follower, they are the leader. That's why you're in the position you are in now.


Btw I hope you like ****** because we're about to get MILLIONS OF THEM. Thankfully the Republican anti-lib Trump is against illegal immigration, but all for total influx of legal immigration! The native population needs to be replaced!

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Originally Posted By tendies
Sad to see how far the Republican party eroded since 2016. This is no longer your grandfathers conservative party, that is for sure.


There's nothing wrong with these brahs

They're pushing against liberals. They're supporting a president who wants better law enforcement, who wants to stop being soft on crime, who wants stronger borders and better trade deals with other countries.


Good for them, I'd shake their hand. You don't need to be wearing a polo to push against liberals.


You posted in another thread some anti-Trump stuff, so this seems like a fake concern-troll attempt.
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Yeah a lot of numbnuts men out there are not only addicted to porn but wholeheartedly believe porn and jerking off is A-OK. Porn is making people complacent and lazy, thinking everything is hopeless and they no longer have any will to fight. Modern society has made people too comfortable and they won't give up their comfort for any liberty. The powerful and influential in most developed nations have a tight grip on things. It'll take a lot for people to start unplugging from the matrix.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
Oh okay. I get it.

You lost. Do you not understand how horrible that logic is? You have ZERO foundation. You'll just keep sliding into the oblivion lmao. You can't be serious?

Let me show you how it goes.
Libtard: "Gays need to get married!"
Cuck: "No, that goes against the idea of a Christian marriage."
Libtard: "BUT LOVE IS LOVE BIGOT. It won't even affect you!"
Cuck: "Well...yea I don't want to be a biggot. Guess it won't affect us."

Gays in 2024. You can't be a conservative and complain about gays if your premise is your logical standpoint. You are the follower, they are the leader. That's why you're in the position you are in now.


Btw I hope you like ****** because we're about to get MILLIONS OF THEM. Thankfully the Republican anti-lib Trump is against illegal immigration, but all for total influx of legal immigration! The native population needs to be replaced!
Let me boil down your complaint.

You seem to be saying that you think republicans have allowed too much to happen, using the example of gay marriage.


Maybe, but I don't realistically think you can win any power and influence being against gay marriage these days. You can create & identify as some super strict party who wants marriage to be a man and a woman, but, I worry that you'd never get any wins. There are some things that have slid, sure.

Still, republicans are by FAR the party who will control immigration. Ironically, you're thread here ishurtingconservatives by smearing them, reducing their influence, increasing the likelihood that your immigration fears come true.
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Originally Posted By PoundLifter
There's nothing wrong with these brahs

They're pushing against liberals. They're supporting a president who wants better law enforcement, who wants to stop being soft on crime, who wants stronger borders and better trade deals with other countries.


Good for them, I'd shake their hand. You don't need to be wearing a polo to push against liberals.


You posted in another thread some anti-Trump stuff, so this seems like a fake concern-troll attempt.
The "concerned-troll" line is just the new NPC response to anything that isn't praise for Trump. What in my post is "concerned"? My comment was a factual observation, pre 2016, you wouldn't have a literal wh0re speaking at the RNC.
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Originally Posted By PoundLifter
There's nothing wrong with these brahs

They're pushing against liberals. They're supporting a president who wants better law enforcement, who wants to stop being soft on crime, who wants stronger borders and better trade deals with other countries.


Good for them, I'd shake their hand. You don't need to be wearing a polo to push against liberals.


You posted in another thread some anti-Trump stuff, so this seems like a fake concern-troll attempt.
"You're pushing against liberals."

What liberals? What policies? Did you not read my post. Have you not heard of the overton window?

YOU ARE THE LIBERAL. YOU. You started off as the "republican christian right" and then became the liberal and as they became the commie, and you will continue to follow them until anything is fair game.

How do you have zero tactical or logical view of this. You are just a cult member walking like a zombie with the other zombies without ever thinking this through.
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Yes all of you are degenerates, not just liberals. Can't believe misc thinks republicans aren't degenerates too and this is just becoming clear. 99.9% of America is degenerate trash.
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Originally Posted By tendies
The "concerned-troll" line is just the new NPC response to anything that isn't praise for Trump. What in my post is "concerned"? My comment was a factual observation, pre 2016, you wouldn't have a literal wh0re speaking at the RNC.
Concern troll refers to a person whopretendsthey're a part of one group, but disgruntled because of (insert reason) as a psychological attempt to pull people away from that party.

Take for example somebody on a Joe Rogan subreddit saying "man, I've been the biggest Joe fan for years! I used to listen to every podcast! However this last year he's just changed" - when in reality they've always hated Joe, and they're just trying to use social persuasion to move people away from Joe for whatever reason, in this because they don't like that he's right leaning.


I've seen you in other threads being pretty openly against republicans. Therefore, when you post in here a picture of black guys with a hood style being the reason that you believe "republicans have lost themselves", it does not seem sincere. It seems like a thinly veiled attempt at concern trolling.


Yes, I think republicans realize there's a portion of the population that they need votes from so they've allowed ethically questionable icons to represent them, like what's her name on stage, but they're still largely the party that is against the degradation of society coming from liberals (which is the source for 90% of it).
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Originally Posted By PoundLifter
Let me boil down your complaint.

You seem to be saying that you think republicans have allowed too much to happen, using the example of gay marriage.


Maybe, but I don't realistically think you can win any power and influence being against gay marriage these days. You can create & identify as some super strict party who wants marriage to be a man and a woman, but, I worry that you'd never get any wins. There are some things that have slid, sure.

Still, republicans are by FAR the party who will control immigration. Ironically, you're thread here ishurtingconservatives by smearing them, reducing their influence, increasing the likelihood that your immigration fears come true.
Yea you're too far gone. Holy NPC lib.

The fact republicans turned into lib NPCs by the year 2024 shows how far gone we are as a society.
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Originally Posted By PoundLifter
Concern troll refers to a person whopretendsthey're a part of one group, but disgruntled because of (insert reason) as a psychological attempt to pull people away from that party.


I've seen you in other threads being pretty openly against republicans. Therefore, when you post in here a picture of black guys with a hood style being the reason that you believe "republicans have lost themselves", it does not seem sincere. It seems like a thinly veiled attempt at concern trolling.


Yes, I think republicans realize there's a portion of the population that they need votes from so they've allowed ethically questionable icons to represent them, like what's her name on stage, but they're still largely the party that is against the degradation of society coming from liberals (which is the source for 90% of it).
not supporting zionist don =/= openly against republicans
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
"You're pushing against liberals."

What liberals? What policies? Did you not read my post. Have you not heard of the overton window?

YOU ARE THE LIBERAL. YOU. You started off as the "republican christian right" and then became the liberal and as they became the commie, and you will continue to follow them until anything is fair game.

How do you have zero tactical or logical view of this. You are just a cult member walking like a zombie with the other zombies without ever thinking this through.
Stop getting so emotional when you debate, it's not a good look.


Your argument is that because republicans have given some ground to liberals (gay marriage, etc) that they'll continue to do so forever, and they've lost themselves because they haven't 100% held firm ground on original principles.


The reality is that republicans are still far closer to conservatives than liberals are, and the sad reality is that you have to pick one of two sides, current day republicans or democrats. One of them is still much more likely to maintain some social standards (not all).

As you sit here slandering republicans, you seem to be helping democrats, which will ironically work against your ideals.

While I agree that republicans have given up some ground, I don't believe that they'll continue to slide to extremes you mention such as communism or things like that. I actually believe that for the most part, they've done good at holding to certain ideals.
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Originally Posted By PoundLifter
Your premise for this argument is that republicans are the Christian party.


That's old school, we don't want to be that. It's not about religion. It's simply a party about pushing against crazy liberal ideology of unreasonably high taxes, weak borders, weak support for law enforcement, easy on crime, anti-white, anti-male, anti family-value societies.


We do not need to be the party of Christians. We can be science believing, even pro choice people.


We just need to push against the craziest on the left.
The reason this country is going to chit is because it isn't Christian anymore.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
It's over. Liberals are the opposite of liberal, and conservatives are the opposite of conservative.

This is how the UK and many EU countries were conquered. They had two main parties who acted outside of the political labels, but people are so fukking stupid they still think the parties act how they're labeled. You now have a liberal "right" and a communist "left." There is no such thing as conservatism anymore. You lost. You played the same game republicans used to clown democrats for just to get votes and you lost your cultural advantage. It's over.

Next we'll have onlyfans girls running for office for republicans, our rallies will be based around rappers, online prostitutes and drinking alcohol. So far it has just been a taste. Then you had some fat rapper chick headline the RNC...THE RNC about politics and she has a face tattoo. You officially lost your vantage point being a Christian based political party. You no longer have the moral high ground lmao. Political theater baby! Welcome to America!





"Attractive conservative women are now posing in bikinis after illiberal and boring leftists tried and failed to mock Anna Paulina Luna. What do you think of this trend?"

I agree with the point about the public not always doing a great collective job seeing thru the ruses that are often put before us. Such is the nature of life and society.

As far as the whole soapbox plea for a return to strict Amish values because thats true morality... I might point out your avatar is a vain bathroom selfie of you lifting your shirt up for a bunch of dudes on a message board.

So the whole fire and brimstone narrative about the degeneracy of a woman in a bikini feels just a bit hollow.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
Yea you're too far gone. Holy NPC lib.

The fact republicans turned into lib NPCs by the year 2024 shows how far gone we are as a society.
Again, stop getting overly emotional and personal. That's a trait of a mentally weak person or somebody losing a debate.


I'm right leaning, I will be voting Trump.


Articulate your thoughts, is my summary of your argument wrong?
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The reason this country is going to chit is because it isn't Christian anymore.
I don't agree.


I am not Christian. The original story of Christ is so flawed and clearly human, magic, things that don't make sense, etc.


I follow science, love physics, astronomy, etc.


Still, I support family ideals. I'm against new-wave feminism, I can't stand the anti-white racism, I want strong law enforcement, strong borders, low taxes, etc. I'm against the gay agenda that seems to seep into all things.


Why can't I be a good contributor to republicans? I think people like me are the future of the party. It's not about Jesus, it's about upholding a healthy society. Drop the requirement for religion. It's 2024.
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Originally Posted By PoundLifter
Stop getting so emotional when you debate, it's not a good look.


Your argument is that because republicans have given some ground to liberals (gay marriage, etc) that they'll continue to do so forever, and they've lost themselves because they haven't 100% held firm ground on original principles.


The reality is that republicans are still far closer to conservatives than liberals are, and the sad reality is that you have to pick one of two sides, current day republicans or democrats. One of them is still much more likely to maintain some social standards (not all).

As you sit here slandering republicans, you seem to be helping democrats, which will ironically work against your ideals.

While I agree that republicans have given up some ground, I don't believe that they'll continue to slide to extremes you mention such as communism or things like that. I actually believe that for the most part, they've done good at holding to certain ideals.
I'm not emotional. I'm shocked at how you refuse to see the most obvious loss here.

Despite thinking you are part of the "winning" party, please tell me what your party has conserved over the years? What have you guys actively culled that the libs have done. I will go point by point with you.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
I'm not emotional. I'm shocked at how you refuse to see the most obvious loss here.

Despite thinking you are part of the "winning" party, please tell me what your party has conserved over the years? What have you guys actively culled that the libs have done. I will go point by point with you.
Are you looking for things that have swung back to the right? Not many. The pendulum has swung left the last decade, the right is pushing against it and hoping to swing society back to the right.

I have seen signs of it. For example, comedians are all on stage saying things that would have gotten them in huge trouble 3/4 years ago. I think there has actually been a positive shift towards the right, to a degree.


The right is still the party that wants actual law enforcement, tough on crime, tough on the border, etc. I agree that society seemed to cave on gay marriage, but I don't agree with the rest of your assessment that this means they're going to slide into allowing communism, and other extreme things.
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Originally Posted By PoundLifter
I don't agree.


I am not Christian. The original story of Christ is so flawed and clearly human, magic, things that don't make sense, etc.


I follow science, love physics, astronomy, etc.


Still, I support family ideals. I'm against new-wave feminism, I can't stand the anti-white racism, I want strong law enforcement, strong borders, low taxes, etc. I'm against the gay agenda that seems to seep into all things.


Why can't I be a good contributor to republicans? I think people like me are the future of the party. It's not about Jesus, it's about upholding a healthy society. Drop the requirement for religion. It's 2024.
Christianity is the foundation of America. It is the basis of right and wrong. It is the compass of morality in the political world.

Your party has basically removed it entirely.

So now, what is good? What is evil? What family ideals do you support? The Christian one's? The part has to be Christian, or else it has foundation. You just end up on the whirly wheel where any politician can overtake their party and create a whole new party. If Trump comes out and says, "Yea abortion is fine. We'll go back to abortions." You cannot say Trump is wrong. It is only immoral because of Christianity.

Somehow though you can't understand that being on a sliding scale of follow the libs leaves you entirely reactionary, and you will never stop the libs. They go to hell, you follow yelling "Hey you stupid libtards! That's crazy!" Boom Drag queen story hour. Boom trans bathrooms in public schools. Boom trannies in olympics. Boom DEI programs dominating corporate world.

It's over. You lost. You see the state of our world? It wasn't the libs.
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Originally Posted By PoundLifter
Are you looking for things that have swung back to the right? Not many. The pendulum has swung left the last decade, the right is pushing against it and hoping to swing society back to the right.

I have seen signs of it. For example, comedians are all on stage saying things that would have gotten them in huge trouble 3/4 years ago. I think there has actually been a positive shift towards the right, to a degree.


The right is still the party that wants actual law enforcement, tough on crime, tough on the border, etc. I agree that society seemed to cave on gay marriage, but I don't agree with the rest of your assessment that this means they're going to slide into allowing communism, and other extreme things.
I don't think you realize how this all works. We have only sled to the left for generations. There has been zero right swing. Your "I don't think!" is rebutted by history.

This is your enemy in the 1990s. The libs.

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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
Christianity is the foundation of America. It is the basis of right and wrong. It is the compass of morality in the political world.

Your party has basically removed it entirely.

So now, what is good? What is evil? What family ideals do you support? The Christian one's? The part has to be Christian, or else it has foundation. You just end up on the whirly wheel where any politician can overtake their party and create a whole new party. If Trump comes out and says, "Yea abortion is fine. We'll go back to abortions." You cannot say Trump is wrong. It is only immoral because of Christianity.

Somehow though you can't understand that being on a sliding scale of follow the libs leaves you entirely reactionary, and you will never stop the libs. They go to hell, you follow yelling "Hey you stupid libtards! That's crazy!" Boom Drag queen story hour. Boom trans bathrooms in public schools. Boom trannies in olympics. Boom DEI programs dominating corporate world.

It's over. You lost. You see the state of our world? It wasn't the libs.
I don't agree that I need to be Christian to have morals you'd agree with. I bet if you asked me my morals for society and how I wish society behaved, you'd like most of them, and I'm not religious.

See my posts above about religion and ethics.


There's the other factor, if taking a hardliner stance means you won't win elections, would you still do it? Or, would you hand all elections off to democrats who allow society to sink MUCH faster than republicans?
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I don't think you realize how this all works. We have only sled to the left for generations. There has been zero right swing. You’re "I don't think!" is rebutted by history.
This. Plus demographic shifts have all but guaranteed that pendulum swings are a thing of the past.

California should be due for a pendulum swing by now, but it’s simply not going to happen, ever.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
Christianity is the foundation of America. It is the basis of right and wrong. It is the compass of morality in the political world.

Your party has basically removed it entirely.

So now, what is good? What is evil? What family ideals do you support? The Christian one's? The part has to be Christian, or else it has foundation. You just end up on the whirly wheel where any politician can overtake their party and create a whole new party. If Trump comes out and says, "Yea abortion is fine. We'll go back to abortions." You cannot say Trump is wrong. It is only immoral because of Christianity.

Somehow though you can't understand that being on a sliding scale of follow the libs leaves you entirely reactionary, and you will never stop the libs. They go to hell, you follow yelling "Hey you stupid libtards! That's crazy!" Boom Drag queen story hour. Boom trans bathrooms in public schools. Boom trannies in olympics. Boom DEI programs dominating corporate world.

It's over. You lost. You see the state of our world? It wasn't the libs.
On spread.
post 1705131571 08-16-2024, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted By tendies
Sad to see how far the Republican party eroded since 2016. This is no longer your grandfathers conservative party, that is for sure.



Reminds me of my 8yr old trying to use reverse psychology for the first time srs.
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Makes me feel eternal, all this Pain is an Illusion.
post 1705131591 08-16-2024, 07:52 PM
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Conservatives don't conserve chit. They always concede. Therefore, they will always lose.
post 1705131681 08-16-2024, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted By John
This. Plus demographic shifts have all but guaranteed that pendulum swings are a thing of the past.

California should be due for a pendulum swing by now, but it’s simply not going to happen, ever.
Possibly, possibly not.


Mexico & Hispanic culture is actually more conservative than you'd think. Let's wait and see how this election turns out.


Black support for republicans is growing, which could be a major pendulum swing if it continues.
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[QUOTE=DeadlyStriker post_id=1705131271]I don't think you realize how this all works. We have only sled to the left for generations. There has been zero right swing. Your "I don't think!" is rebutted by history.

This is your enemy in the 1990s. The libs.

[youtube]W5uDCgLw2e4[/youtu be][/QUOTE][QUOTE=John L post_id=1705131391]This. Plus demographic shifts have all but guaranteed that pendulum swings are a thing of the past.

California should be due for a pendulum swing by now, but it’s simply not going to happen, ever.[/QUOTE]I dunno. It seems to me a lot more people are racist and anti-semitic now
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Originally Posted By PoundLifter
Possibly, possibly not.


Mexico & Hispanic culture is actually more conservative than you'd think. Let's wait and see how this election turns out.


Black support for republicans is growing, which could be a major pendulum swing if it continues.
Nope, they’re very left wing. When polled on the issues, they simply aren’t conservative at all.

Hispanics have voted 70-30 for Democrats since the 70’s. Blacks vote 90-10 Dem and that’s not going to change.

The ceiling Republicans have with Hispanics is around 40%, and the stars would have to align for them to get that. And even if they do wind up consistently getting 40%, that still isn’t sustainable as the demographic continues to grow.
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