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04-01-2019, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted By DukeOfWoodBerry⏩
The idea of just arguing that people are wrong doesn't work on people in closed groups, it doesn't work on people who have no desire at all to change their opinion and it doesn't work in echo chambers.I don't use ******** anymore and never will, so I don't really care. I would encourage others not to use it either as Zuck has no ethics or respect for privacy. Banning any talk of white nationalism or white separatism is not the answer. If anyone doesn't like their points of view or are worried about their spread, then make the argument they are wrong. Banning them just causes more frustration and reinforces the point white people can't advocate for themselves or their group like everyone else can. There is nothing inherently violent about white nationalism, if someone is advocating for violence ban them and investigate them.
Take a look at Misc for example, I don't expect people to agree with all my posts, I don't think that my opinion is the only correct answer to everything either, but I don't troll and I try to cite facts to make an argument. However half the time I log in and CP has the most retarded neg comments from people who have no desire or ability to discuss a point and just lash out at people who's views are different, look at threads where it's just a circle jerk of people not even engaging with someone except for copy and pasting same replies to troll, one person going into a group collective with a counter point isn't going to do anything or change anyone's opinion, they just get swarmed and attacked because they're a "threat" to the group think.
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04-02-2019, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Reflexez⏩
That's why I said their spread. White nationalism isn't mainstream or have a ton of support. They're trying to grow support. If you want to kill the idea in its crib, you convince people who aren't white nationalists why it's wrong. I'm well aware people with strong opinions are entrenched. I'm not a white nationalist but I'm strongly against immigration and multiculturalism. You're strongly for those things. Not everyone has their mind made up though.The idea of just arguing that people are wrong doesn't work on people in closed groups, it doesn't work on people who have no desire at all to change their opinion and it doesn't work in echo chambers.
Take a look at Misc for example, I don't expect people to agree with all my posts, I don't think that my opinion is the only correct answer to everything either, but I don't troll and I try to cite facts to make an argument. However half the time I log in and CP has the most retarded neg comments from people who have no desire or ability to discuss a point and just lash out at people who's views are different, look at threads where it's just a circle jerk of people not even engaging with someone except for copy and pasting same replies to troll, one person going into a group collective with a counter point isn't going to do anything or change anyone's opinion, they just get swarmed and attacked because they're a "threat" to the group think.
Take a look at Misc for example, I don't expect people to agree with all my posts, I don't think that my opinion is the only correct answer to everything either, but I don't troll and I try to cite facts to make an argument. However half the time I log in and CP has the most retarded neg comments from people who have no desire or ability to discuss a point and just lash out at people who's views are different, look at threads where it's just a circle jerk of people not even engaging with someone except for copy and pasting same replies to troll, one person going into a group collective with a counter point isn't going to do anything or change anyone's opinion, they just get swarmed and attacked because they're a "threat" to the group think.
04-02-2019, 03:05 AM
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I'm seeing reports that Tommy Robinson has just been banned from youtube, although I'm not sure if that means he's just been heavily restricted or outright banned.
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04-02-2019, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted By DukeOfWoodBerry⏩
That already happens.That's why I said their spread. White nationalism isn't mainstream or have a ton of support. They're trying to grow support. If you want to kill the idea in its crib,you convince people who aren't white nationalists why it's wrong.
On youtube for example; Contrapoints, Innuendo Studios, Shaun, Noncompete, Three Arrows, Destiny, and Bad Mouse Productions. All have addressed fundamental White Nationalist arguments.
Banning White Nationalists from platforms is also another strategy, that works (whether we like it or not). We likely aren't going to see another Charlottesville 1 level Alt Right rally, because people fear the repercussions (eg. being banned from jobs, social media blocked, family and friends disowning people, etc).
White Nationalists tend to only admit they are anonymously online, probably because they fear the social consequences of being open. That's significant because no revolution in history has ever happened anonymously. Secrecy is not anonymity, and there were revolutions that happened in secrecy, but the actors knew each other - even if the people in power don't. White Nationalism in 2019 is largely made up who (understandably) are afraid to go public with their ideas, or even go to meet ups IRL - that's not a threat to the establishment.
I wrote in a previous thread that I believe we have entered the Black Pill phase of Western White Nationalism, and I think that is going to be how it is defeated... Essentially I think it's going to defeat itself through extremism and bitterness.
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04-02-2019, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I don't think this is accurate.White Nationalists tend to only admit they are anonymously online, probably because they fear the social consequences of being open. That's significant because no revolution in history has ever happened anonymously.
In fact the groups that have been banned by FB were not anonymous.
There are White Supremacists groups online that include names and pictures.
04-02-2019, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
I agree that there are some, I don't believe it's the majority though.I don't think this is accurate.
In fact the groups that have been banned by FB were not anonymous.
There are White Supremacists groups online that include names and pictures.
In fact the groups that have been banned by FB were not anonymous.
There are White Supremacists groups online that include names and pictures.
Even when I watch White Nationalist podcasts, sometimes half of the guest hide behind avatars.
Also, I have noticed some people completely disappear from social media, deleting practically every trace (that they can control) of their White Nationalist platforms.
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04-02-2019, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I know it happens, I only know Destiny of those people and don't find him convincing. There is too much evidence everyday of tribalism. I see what happens in states when non white people take over (California, New York).That already happens.
On youtube for example; Contrapoints, Innuendo Studios, Shaun, Noncompete, Three Arrows, Destiny, and Bad Mouse Productions. All have addressed fundamental White Nationalist arguments.
Banning White Nationalists from platforms is also another strategy, that works (whether we like it or not). We likely aren't going to see another Charlottesville 1 level Alt Right rally, because people fear the repercussions (eg. being banned from jobs, social media blocked, family and friends disowning people, etc).
White Nationalists tend to only admit they are anonymously online, probably because they fear the social consequences of being open. That's significant because no revolution in history has ever happened anonymously. Secrecy is not anonymity, and there were revolutions that happened in secrecy, but the actors knew each other - even if the people in power don't. White Nationalism in 2019 is largely made up who (understandably) are afraid to go public with their ideas, or even go to meet ups IRL - that's not a threat to the establishment.
I wrote in a previous thread that I believe we have entered the Black Pill phase of Western White Nationalism, and I think that is going to be how it is defeated... Essentially I think it's going to defeat itself through extremism and bitterness.
On youtube for example; Contrapoints, Innuendo Studios, Shaun, Noncompete, Three Arrows, Destiny, and Bad Mouse Productions. All have addressed fundamental White Nationalist arguments.
Banning White Nationalists from platforms is also another strategy, that works (whether we like it or not). We likely aren't going to see another Charlottesville 1 level Alt Right rally, because people fear the repercussions (eg. being banned from jobs, social media blocked, family and friends disowning people, etc).
White Nationalists tend to only admit they are anonymously online, probably because they fear the social consequences of being open. That's significant because no revolution in history has ever happened anonymously. Secrecy is not anonymity, and there were revolutions that happened in secrecy, but the actors knew each other - even if the people in power don't. White Nationalism in 2019 is largely made up who (understandably) are afraid to go public with their ideas, or even go to meet ups IRL - that's not a threat to the establishment.
I wrote in a previous thread that I believe we have entered the Black Pill phase of Western White Nationalism, and I think that is going to be how it is defeated... Essentially I think it's going to defeat itself through extremism and bitterness.
You wait and see what happens with white separatism movements after the left starts winning every presidential election, court packing on the SC, amnesty and even worse open borders, gun grabs, ect... My opinion chit is going to get nasty in this country. Or maybe white people will accept getting chit on, we'll see
04-02-2019, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I think there vast majority of them flaunt it than hide from itI agree that there are some, I don't believe it's the majority though.
Even when I watch White Nationalist podcasts, sometimes half of the guest hide behind avatars.
Also, I have noticed some people completely disappear from social media, deleting practically every trace (that they can control) of their White Nationalist platforms.
Even when I watch White Nationalist podcasts, sometimes half of the guest hide behind avatars.
Also, I have noticed some people completely disappear from social media, deleting practically every trace (that they can control) of their White Nationalist platforms.
04-02-2019, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted By DukeOfWoodBerry⏩
Destiny is only one set of arguments - I sincerely hope that noone is holding him up as the definitive person to take down White Nationalists - I would advise checking out the other names too.I know it happens, I only know Destiny of those people and don't find him convincing. There is too much evidence everyday of tribalism. I see what happens in states when non white people take over (California, New York).
But you said you aren't a White Nationalist, so what arguments do you have against White Nationalism yourself?
You wait and see what happens with white separatism movements after the left starts winning every presidential election, court packing on the SC, amnesty and even worse open borders, gun grabs, ect... My opinion chit is going to get nasty in this country. Or maybe white people will accept getting chit on, we'll see
I sincerely hope that White Nationalist violent revolution doesn't happen in the US.I hope that I am right that Western White Nationalism is going to defeat itself... But I have warned that White Nationalist extremism is being increasingly preached in White Nationalist circles
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04-02-2019, 05:07 AM
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Not officially documented, but..."It is necessary that I should die for my people; but my spirit will rise from the grave and the whole world will know I was right."
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I have always been of the opinion that unpopularity earned by doing what is right is not unpopularity at all, but glory.
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[18] Who have erred from the truth, saying, that the resurrection is past already, and have subverted the faith of some. [19] But the sure foundation of God standeth firm, having this seal: the Lord knoweth who are his; and let every one depart from iniquity who nameth the name of the Lord.
04-02-2019, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I guess I'm more black pilled than anything because I don't see any feasable way to make it happen. The actual merits of multiculturalism, I don't see it. Give the country away for tacos. When I look at America before 1965, it was both happier and more unified.Destiny is only one set of arguments - I sincerely hope that noone is holding him up as the definitive person to take down White Nationalists - I would advise checking out the other names too.
But you said you aren't a White Nationalist, so what arguments do you have against White Nationalism yourself?
I sincerely hope that White Nationalist violent revolution doesn't happen in the US.
I hope that I am right that Western White Nationalism is going to defeat itself... But I have warned that White Nationalist extremism is being increasingly preached in White Nationalist circles
But you said you aren't a White Nationalist, so what arguments do you have against White Nationalism yourself?
I sincerely hope that White Nationalist violent revolution doesn't happen in the US.
I hope that I am right that Western White Nationalism is going to defeat itself... But I have warned that White Nationalist extremism is being increasingly preached in White Nationalist circles
Do you disagree that those policies I laid out are the future of the country? White people (traditionalists and conservatives which are most of us) are about to start getting boned in federal elections in about 10-15 years. Texas is going blue. A lot of people were placated by Trump's win and think stuff like that is going to keep happening. It'll be interesting to see people's reactions when reality sets in that the country has moved permanently left.
04-02-2019, 05:38 AM
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Only thing this will do is further radicalize those people and give them more cause to hate. This is the path you far leftists have created, now walk it. Hate begets more hate, violence and rhetoric begets more.
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Originally Posted By DukeOfWoodBerry⏩
So, you support White Nationalism in theory, but you don't see it being viable in practice?I guess I'm more black pilled than anything because I don't see any feasable way to make it happen.
The actual merits of multiculturalism, I don't see it.
Civic Nationalism isn't the only alternative, there is also Cultural Nationalism.Do you disagree that those policies I laid out are the future of the country?
I don't know.White people (traditionalists and conservatives which are most of us) are about to start getting boned in federal elections in about 10-15 years. Texas is going blue. A lot of people were placated by Trump's win and think stuff like that is going to keep happening. It'll be interesting to see people's reactions when reality sets in that the country has moved permanently left.
If that happens, I hope any White Idenitarians, White Nationalists, and Right Wingers only become black pilled temporarily. And instead turn to things like Agorism to try to enact change, which bypasses the political process...(I admit, I first clicked on this video because I liked the look of the girl.)
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04-02-2019, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted By DukeOfWoodBerry⏩
wouldn't count on thatIt'll be interesting to see people's reactions when reality sets in that the country has moved permanently left.
04-05-2019, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Watched some of a debate between Nick Fuentes, Sargon, Destiny, and some Young Turks *******. Fuentes and Sargon won and now leftists got Fuentes banned from Twitch. The left is obsessed with deplatforming and shutting down speech. Having a tough time winning in the arena of ideas. The left is deathly afraid of these right wing movements. They know anti multiculturalism is resonating.That already happens.
On youtube for example; Contrapoints, Innuendo Studios, Shaun, Noncompete, Three Arrows, Destiny, and Bad Mouse Productions. All have addressed fundamental White Nationalist arguments.
Banning White Nationalists from platforms is also another strategy, that works (whether we like it or not). We likely aren't going to see another Charlottesville 1 level Alt Right rally, because people fear the repercussions (eg. being banned from jobs, social media blocked, family and friends disowning people, etc).
White Nationalists tend to only admit they are anonymously online, probably because they fear the social consequences of being open. That's significant because no revolution in history has ever happened anonymously. Secrecy is not anonymity, and there were revolutions that happened in secrecy, but the actors knew each other - even if the people in power don't. White Nationalism in 2019 is largely made up who (understandably) are afraid to go public with their ideas, or even go to meet ups IRL - that's not a threat to the establishment.
I wrote in a previous thread that I believe we have entered the Black Pill phase of Western White Nationalism, and I think that is going to be how it is defeated... Essentially I think it's going to defeat itself through extremism and bitterness.
On youtube for example; Contrapoints, Innuendo Studios, Shaun, Noncompete, Three Arrows, Destiny, and Bad Mouse Productions. All have addressed fundamental White Nationalist arguments.
Banning White Nationalists from platforms is also another strategy, that works (whether we like it or not). We likely aren't going to see another Charlottesville 1 level Alt Right rally, because people fear the repercussions (eg. being banned from jobs, social media blocked, family and friends disowning people, etc).
White Nationalists tend to only admit they are anonymously online, probably because they fear the social consequences of being open. That's significant because no revolution in history has ever happened anonymously. Secrecy is not anonymity, and there were revolutions that happened in secrecy, but the actors knew each other - even if the people in power don't. White Nationalism in 2019 is largely made up who (understandably) are afraid to go public with their ideas, or even go to meet ups IRL - that's not a threat to the establishment.
I wrote in a previous thread that I believe we have entered the Black Pill phase of Western White Nationalism, and I think that is going to be how it is defeated... Essentially I think it's going to defeat itself through extremism and bitterness.
04-05-2019, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted By DukeOfWoodBerry⏩
What’s up with the right wing glorifying and getting their talking points from these little wannabe white supremacist youtube boys?Watched some of a debate between Nick Fuentes, Sargon, Destiny, and some Young Turks *******. Fuentes and Sargon won and now leftists got Fuentes banned from Twitch. The left is obsessed with deplatforming and shutting down speech. Having a tough time winning in the arena of ideas. The left is deathly afraid of these right wing movements. They know anti multiculturalism is resonating.
Nick Fuentes... just lol no wonder the right wing is fail
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