Cliffs: Mass adoption of masks doesn't work

Maskcels will surely be BTFO as soon as this comes out, but when it does expect the media to either ignore it or attack it

Summary and study design here:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT04337541

opee ur st00pid. the n3wz said it's safe 2 pack into a plane bcus masks r so afectiv.

that explains why i'm receiving dirty looks for walking on the sidewalk without a mask.

Journals are no longer run by scientists, they are run by priests who ensure that nothing which breaks the consensus is allowed through. Don't expect anything good to come out of peer review until the fundamental problems with our culture and society are fixed first.

Brave enough to do what? Murder grandparents??!!



Just put your mask on, stand in your designated circle, wait *2 more weeks, shut down your business, and don’t ask questions. What’s so hard about that?

Saw that OP, the establishment is fighting it HARD. What a fuked up timeline we're in, theyre doing everything they can to usher us into the New Dark Ages srs

Hope to God some brave journal publishes this and stands behind it

Almost like theres this scientific fanaticism similar to how there has been religious fanaticism for a while. Both are just as bad as they encourage blind acceptance of what is stated and to not ask questions.

I don't know it would even make much difference if they did. Panicels don't care about logic or the supposed science they tout so much, they just operate on fear, hysteria and worship of state power.

Kroger, yesterday....around 12:30....packed (right after the main church services let out...see location). Went right after killing legs. Gym is in same complex as Kroger.

Mask wearers.....60ish%
Non Mask wearers .....40ish%
Mask wearers wearing it correctly, including employees.....maybe 30%. And not in the "I'm an idiot way" ....more in the "this is on my body because it has to be, but I dont GAF" way

Compared to a month/months ago when I remember seeing maybe 1-5 people not wearing a masks.

Just lol....people are waking up

imagine being afraid of covid and caring so much about masks

Whenever I go to Walmart, the greeters ask me to put one on, so I do to be polite. And I hang it around my neck, covering none of my face. No one cares, it's just purely a CYA thing.

I was under the impression that it was no secret that masks may not be particularly effective in preventing people from contracting C-19. I thought the point was that they were meant to decrease the extent to which carriers of C-19 spread it.

That is common knowledge to people who have looked into it, but I don't think most people have.

you still have greeters? I'm jealous

If a simple cloth mask is effective in one direction, why would it not be in the other?

Also, if asymptomatic carriers are far less infectious than the symptomatic (they are), and the symptomatic should self-isolate, then why would we all be encouraged to wear them?

How could you design a study to test their effectiveness in preventing spread by the infected? You would have to send the known infected out and somehow determine how many they infected. This is obviously not going to happen. Should we just assume it is true that they help despite no evidence or even evidence to the contrary?

Here's the real answer

B-b-but the newz station said it was to protect other people! Droplets! Long lasting symptoms! I want my stimulus money! Orange man sick! Think of the children! Italy! New normal!

We must get rid of plastic! No, now we must being plastic back for PPE!

I found this particularly hilarious. Now the panicels want everything hermetically sealed in 20 layers of plastic.

Just two old dudes (80s?) who are there every day. Yesterday I noticed one of them wasn't even wearing his mask "normally", so I think we're pretty much done with that crap here.

Either they work both ways or they dont work.

If they stop the droplets from getting out, they should stop droplets from getting in.

Oh wait i forgot we arecatill talking about a virus that you have to take a test to even know you have, cuz no one is getting sick.

Science can suck my ballz 99% of it is

Brb say that in public and get crucified by the other peasants for disrespecting the Church of Science

Common knowledge isn't common at all.

The reasoning is that it reduces the amount of droplets from being expelled from our mouths, which reduces the droplets from transmitting COVID 19.

For the record, I don't wear a mask anywhere. I believe in hybrid Terrain-Germ theory. I don't believe it's healthy for us to walk around wearing masks, and breathing back in expelled particles and bacteria.

I get the basic reasoning, but anyone who supports mass adoption of masks should be able to answer those questions and justify their position.

As far as I'm aware, when we speak, we emit respiratory droplets and aerosols. What evidence there is indicates that the masks significantly reduce the extent to which those droplets/aerosols are emitted into the surrounding air (which is why you were probably brought up to put your hand over your mouth when you sneeze). I think there's emerging evidence (no idea how strong it is) that masks may help prevent you from contract C-19 to some extent, but with less-than-perfect coverage of your mouth and nose, there's no guarantee you won't pick it up if there's already a load of droplets/aerosols coming your way from the guy who's just sneezed at you.

Re your second question: viral load peaks in the pre-symptomatic stage - ie whether you turn out to be symptomatic or asymptomatic, you will transmit before you have symptoms. Obvious solution: ask everyone to wear a mask to protect other people.

Re your third question: you don't have to test efficacy by deliberately exposing people to the virus if you know the means (droplets etc.) by which the virus is transmitted and then test the effect of face masks on the means of transmission. There's also some evidence that in face masks have reduced the incidence of infection in certain settings, such ashospitals(and yes, I'm aware that correlation does not equal causation).

But if you really care about this, you shouldn't really be asking some random on the misc who doesn't know a great deal about it; you should be doing your own research (and that doesn't mean 'looking for information which confirms your biases').

Intredasting, repped

You write like a scientist or medical person - what do you do?

This is a faulty assumption as the viral load doesn't say anything about if you transmit the virus or not. If you go by actual contact tracing studies, instead of just assuming viral load means you will transmit the virus, they will show you that asymptomatic people do NOT transmit covid-19 in any meaningful way. (Like this study with 1 transmission in 305 cases)

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-2671

I specialize in sounding like I know what I'm talking about when I actually only have a very cursory layman's knowledge.I dare say; I don't have time to read it, but I'll take your word for it. Either way, the only issue with that is that you don't know who will be asymptomatic and who won't in advance of their contracting the virus.

.Yep as religious fanaticism fades from influence it needs to be replaced with something, queue up "science" and is embraced by the people that turned away from religion because of "science".

repped