God is outside of time..and please do tell, do you still think anti-matter is not matter?

Go on...

Still waiting for someone to do this, but they keep derailing.

So far, Paul Kreul has volunteered an explanation: "Jews".

This is not a mathematical model or a presentation of evidence. Pretty unconvincing. Anyone else want to give it a go?

Depends how you use the word.

"God is outside of time" doesn't resolve the issue of God needing to define time coordinates and define a temporal order for a sequence of events. To do this globally for the entire universe is impossible.

You keep saying that, but try comprehending my post you just quoted and come back to me when you have a clearer understanding. I'll even simplify it for you:

God gave us a conscience and thus a moral compass. Because of man's fallenness, we have a tendency to dull, corrupt or outright ignore our innate morality. Which leads to unnatural desires, unhealthy appetites, all variety of malice and malevolence.

The Bible is His word in physical form. If people used it as a point of reference and embraced it as gospel, society would have a greater chance of saying no to all forms of degeneracy that is constantly thrust upon it by the devil. It's not a matter of "I'm an empty emotionless shell and need a book to explain to me what's good or bad", like you're suggesting. It's a matter of society needing an anchor of morality in place of them deciding what's moral by consensus.

When we reject God, we are also rejecting the innate morality he gave us all. As a result making it easier to commit sin, accept degeneracy, and pursue a life of hedonism. I'm speaking in general terms. Of course the individual can be a moral person without believing in God, imo they're just more susceptible to sin that society deems acceptable (not illegal chit like murder or paedophilia), rather drag queen story hour, LGBT agendas, sexual fetishes/hardcore pornography etc.

God is outside of time..and please do tell, do you still think anti-matter is not matter?

you also evaded the question..how do you think that bending happens?

Go on...

So christians are so immoral they need the bible to remind them not to do bad things? Does not sound like they are good people. I don't need a book to remind me murder is bad, I know from instinct its bad because of the consequences, and that did not come from god. There is zero evidence christians are more moral than anyone else. America is quite religious yet its by the far the prison capital of the world. Hmmm

you can't control your desires, and you are lying if you say you can. Oh sure, maybe for a season, but you will fall. And a man that lives for pleasure is a weak man, and that is all atheists do.
But none of this changes the reality of God. He exits whether you disagree with me or not.

1. God is that than which nothing greater can be thought.

2. A God that exists is greater than one that doesn't.

3. If God does not exist, God is not that than which nothing greater can be thought.

4. From 3 and 1, we can use a rule called modus tollens to infer that God does exist.

5. Thus, God exists.

It happens as directed by the Einstein Field Equations, which relate the metric to the energy momentum tensor.

Still waiting for someone to do this, but they keep derailing.

So far, Paul Kreul has volunteered an explanation: "Jews".

This is not a mathematical model or a presentation of evidence. Pretty unconvincing. Anyone else want to give it a go?

1. God is that than which nothing greater can be thought.

2. A God that exists is greater than one that doesn't.

3. If God does not exist, God is not that than which nothing greater can be thought.

4. From 3 and 1, we can use a rule called modus tollens to infer that God does exist.

5. Thus, God exists.

Lecturing about controlling desires yet you have your bare chest as an avatar, which violates one of the 7 deadly sins. Christians are lul.

1. If God does not exist, objective moral values do not exist.

2. Objective moral values do exist.

3. Therefore, God exists.

Are you sure about #2?

Are you sure about #2?

So christians are so immoral they need the bible to remind them not to do bad things?Does not sound like they are good people. I don't need a book to remind me murder is bad, I know from instinct its bad because of the consequences, and that did not come from god. There is zero evidence christians are more moral than anyone else. America is quite religious yet its by the far the prison capital of the world. Hmmm

7 deadly sins are not in the Bible..strong comprehension of not knowing what you are arguing against.

How are you defining this ordering on things to define God as the maximal element? Like what is meant by greatest?

The answer to that questionagainis no.

Your reading comprehension sucks dude.

I never said or implied Christians need a book for morality.
I never said or implied you need a book to remind you murder is bad.

How do you keep reaching these same conclusions even after I've thoroughly clarified your misunderstanding of my position? If you're going to respond to me, at least do me the courtesy of reading what I typed. It's either that or you're just really dumb, one or the other. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you've just skimmed over my posts so you can keep spewing the same strawman nonsense. It's like you see the words "God" and "Bible" and immediately get tunnel vision.

God is meant by the greatest.

1. It is possible that a maximally great being exists.

2. If it is possible that a maximally great being exists, then a maximally great being exists in some possible world.

3. If a maximally great being exists in some possible world, then it exists in every possible world.

4. If a maximally great being exists in every possible world, then it exists in the actual world.

5. If a maximally great being exists in the actual world, then a maximally great being exists.

6. Therefore, a maximally great being exists.

Yes!

are you sure anti-matter is not matter?

go on..

try not to copy/paste this time.

No I am asking how are you defining what "great" means?

I distilled your argument. Humans apparently do have innate morals but we lose track of them and need a reminder or anchor. Apparently some of us need that anchor more than most. I'm curious can you explain why you think murder is bad?

Why? How do we know the objective moral ruling on say...jaywalking? Or what about AI rights?

In the way I mentioned, yes. Antimatter is not matter. They are different, and also there exist particles comprised of both antimatter and matter, like pions.

Yes, society in general needs an anchor for their morality if they hope to prosper. That anchor can only be from God, it can't be determined by consensus. Otherwise boundaries get dissolved, lines get pushed, standards get lowered and traditions become extinct.

Anti-matter is matter, how are you this ignorant? It can literally be destroyed with it's matter counterparts

Society is becoming more secular though and more moral. We needed to go beyond the bible to end slavery for example. You have very little faith in human nature if you think we will end up eating babies without the bible. You seem to forget that traditions becoming extinct can actually be a good thing. Slavery was a tradition remember?