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04-25-2017, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted By weightsb4dates⏩
You would be better off buying a different action really. There are a lot of aftermarket parts out there for 700 actions. If there isn't a compatible aftermarket for the import you would need to have one made which would cost more than a new accurate synthetic rifle out of the box. I have a savage stainless predator in .308 that is a great shooter and what's nice about those is the barrel lug is easily changed to different calibers. You could buy a bolt gun that shoots sub MOA and has syenthitc stock pretty cheap. If your going to start reloading 6mm BR or other cartridges are ballisticaly a little better. I like .308 because I have shot it the most long range and know the ballistics of the loads I use. If your planning to shoot long range though don't buy a short bbl rifle. The longer barrels over the short 16-18" tacticool will have better velocity. I think they lose about 200fps per inch under 24"-26". Varget powder is slow and temperature stable so it's a great longer bb/ heavier bullet weight .308/.223 powder. I shoot benchmark for lighter bullets, it's faster burn rate gets more velocity out of a shorter barrel / lighter bullet.g19 vs 26 discussion incoming.
just carry a rhino 20ds .357 mag.
alright dudes who shoot bolt guns. I know nothing about bolt guns. i have a 30-06 that i want to put into a composite stock, can i drop the action into any composite stock or do i have take the action out of my gun now and see what it is first? I see alot for the remington 700, my gun is an imported from england BSA Arms that was given to me many years ago, idk what the action is other than i know its long action.
just carry a rhino 20ds .357 mag.
alright dudes who shoot bolt guns. I know nothing about bolt guns. i have a 30-06 that i want to put into a composite stock, can i drop the action into any composite stock or do i have take the action out of my gun now and see what it is first? I see alot for the remington 700, my gun is an imported from england BSA Arms that was given to me many years ago, idk what the action is other than i know its long action.
Wife and kids flew out to AZ for a wedding. Just me and the new pupper for 9 days. Might get some shooting in not sure.
04-25-2017, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted By SpeedCheeser⏩
The smell of Honest Amish isn't great. It's like a cinnamon/black licorice.I've been using Grave Before Shave stuff. Many people recommend Honest Amish, but I've yet to use it personally.
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04-25-2017, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Sleev-les⏩
I usually run a KRG Xray and am now running an XLR. I love the XLR so far. Well balanced and the grip setup/adjustability of the cheek-rest is great. AI chassis are good, but heavy. You would also need an adaptor for the bipod as you mentioned.Afternoon MFC....
I'm looking for some opinions on my Remington 700P .338LM so let me start out with my setup and then I'll get to the point
Remington 700P .338 LM
Built in muzzle brake
"Out of the box" stock
Swivel nut rail adapter
Atlas Bipod
Nightforce 5.5 to 22 (Nightforce Rings)
I was finally able to get out and shoot this lil guy over the weekend and I know there has to be more potential to this rifle. First off, the swivel nut adapter comes loose no matter what you do to keep it tight. Any further its going to strip out. So this is making the bipod wobble, creating issues maintaining the target. Second, the stock just does not feel that great as its just the basic stock (whatever it comes with). Third, this rifle hops like a kid in a moon bounce.
So, I'm looking at improving. I'm looking at a manners stock or XLR chassis system. Other recommendations are welcome, but the reviews and price points seem pretty good on either of these (I know AI is even higher cost, but probably one of the best). Either way, I want a stock that accepts the Atlas Bipod without an adapter.
I'm also looking at a better trigger since I've already determined I want to customize this rifle and take full advantage of what it can do.
The biggest thing I'm looking for options on is the brake. The built in brake just doesn't cut it and looks like I'd need a smith to cut it off and thread the barrel. Now, since I want to make this a badazz rifle would you have a smith work the barrel and install a new brake or would you rather rebarrel the rifle with something better through and through?
Let me know what you guys think.
I'm looking for some opinions on my Remington 700P .338LM so let me start out with my setup and then I'll get to the point
Remington 700P .338 LM
Built in muzzle brake
"Out of the box" stock
Swivel nut rail adapter
Atlas Bipod
Nightforce 5.5 to 22 (Nightforce Rings)
I was finally able to get out and shoot this lil guy over the weekend and I know there has to be more potential to this rifle. First off, the swivel nut adapter comes loose no matter what you do to keep it tight. Any further its going to strip out. So this is making the bipod wobble, creating issues maintaining the target. Second, the stock just does not feel that great as its just the basic stock (whatever it comes with). Third, this rifle hops like a kid in a moon bounce.
So, I'm looking at improving. I'm looking at a manners stock or XLR chassis system. Other recommendations are welcome, but the reviews and price points seem pretty good on either of these (I know AI is even higher cost, but probably one of the best). Either way, I want a stock that accepts the Atlas Bipod without an adapter.
I'm also looking at a better trigger since I've already determined I want to customize this rifle and take full advantage of what it can do.
The biggest thing I'm looking for options on is the brake. The built in brake just doesn't cut it and looks like I'd need a smith to cut it off and thread the barrel. Now, since I want to make this a badazz rifle would you have a smith work the barrel and install a new brake or would you rather rebarrel the rifle with something better through and through?
Let me know what you guys think.
My favorite brakes (.308/6.5) is the APA lil bastard and the 419 Hellfire (using now). Both require only a threaded muzzle, as you set timing on them and snug the down with a collar nut.
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04-25-2017, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Sleev-les⏩
I put a timney flat trigger in mine and it is very nice - can't help you with anything else - mine's stock except for the triggerAfternoon MFC....
I'm also looking at a better trigger since I've already determined I want to customize this rifle and take full advantage of what it can do.
Let me know what you guys think.
I'm also looking at a better trigger since I've already determined I want to customize this rifle and take full advantage of what it can do.
Let me know what you guys think.
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04-25-2017, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted By jason_bh⏩
Asking a guy that has to shave once a monthI was thinking about that. Have to put it to use somehow.
SRS, where's Blump when you need him?
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These are what I use.I only use the shampoo once or twice a week, everyone is different. Use the oil most days, but always after using the shampoo. My facial hair is naturally stiff, hard, and will flake, but using these makes it glorious.
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04-25-2017, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted By lmnopotts⏩
Gentlemen's Blend (bourbon) and Cigar Blend (vanilla) are my 2 favorites. I was using oils more when my beard was shorter. Now I'm on about a half Sp3cial time and I'm more using the balms to help try and control it and keep it neat.Love their stuff.
My $0.02
Gentlemen's Blend: Oil has a nice bourbon fragrance but the balm is more vanilla heavy
Pine Scent: This oil and balm is my go-to, nice scent but doesn't last all day (how I like it)
Green tin "beard balm" (the one with the flight cap & goggles): A subdued version of Pine Scent, still good
Outdoorsman Blend: Reviews are saying it's pretty much just citronella oil. Use only for yard work as it's not something you'll want to wear to work or a night out. I'll probably pick up a bottle come summer for hikes that have really bad flies (for both me and my dog).
Oh, and their beard wash smells amazing too. Regrowing and only using oils now, I found out the hard way that my trimmer with 10 length settings really only has 2; 5 o'clock short or 10 o'clock Jason Statham short.
My $0.02
Gentlemen's Blend: Oil has a nice bourbon fragrance but the balm is more vanilla heavy
Pine Scent: This oil and balm is my go-to, nice scent but doesn't last all day (how I like it)
Green tin "beard balm" (the one with the flight cap & goggles): A subdued version of Pine Scent, still good
Outdoorsman Blend: Reviews are saying it's pretty much just citronella oil. Use only for yard work as it's not something you'll want to wear to work or a night out. I'll probably pick up a bottle come summer for hikes that have really bad flies (for both me and my dog).
Oh, and their beard wash smells amazing too. Regrowing and only using oils now, I found out the hard way that my trimmer with 10 length settings really only has 2; 5 o'clock short or 10 o'clock Jason Statham short.
I put my clippers on about a 12 guard and trim down with the hair (not up against it) just to help knock back fly aways and then use no guard and free hand it to try and shape it or trim up when necessary.
Originally Posted By Sp3cialK⏩
Might skip on it then. Don't think I want to smell like licorice.The smell of Honest Amish isn't great. It's like a cinnamon/black licorice.
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04-25-2017, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted By Plateauplower⏩
Nah. Like 17 fps per inch. I'm 169 fps down with 168 fgmm in my new 16.5" compared to my old 26" 700.You would be better off buying a different action really. There are a lot of aftermarket parts out there for 700 actions. If there isn't a compatible aftermarket for the import you would need to have one made which would cost more than a new accurate synthetic rifle out of the box. I have a savage stainless predator in .308 that is a great shooter and what's nice about those is the barrel lug is easily changed to different calibers. You could buy a bolt gun that shoots sub MOA and has syenthitc stock pretty cheap. If your going to start reloading 6mm BR or other cartridges are ballisticaly a little better. I like .308 because I have shot it the most long range and know the ballistics of the loads I use. If your planning to shoot long range though don't buy a short bbl rifle. The longer barrels over the short 16-18" tacticool will have better velocity.I think they lose about 200fps per inch under 24"-26". Varget powder is slow and temperature stable so it's a great longer bb/ heavier bullet weight .308/.223 powder. I shoot benchmark for lighter bullets, it's faster burn rate gets more velocity out of a shorter barrel / lighter bullet.
Wife and kids flew out to AZ for a wedding. Just me and the new pupper for 9 days. Might get some shooting in not sure.
Wife and kids flew out to AZ for a wedding. Just me and the new pupper for 9 days. Might get some shooting in not sure.
I found the data in this article to be very similar to my experience and it's what lead me to do a short barrel. When I add a can, I don't want a 34" barrel setup. My setup with be around 22-23" with the can.
http://rifleshooter.com/2013/11/supe...-action-rifle/
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04-25-2017, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted By GMFB702⏩
probably the one designed for appendix carryWhich stealthgear holster would be best for aiwb for a shield 45 the appendix or iwb mini?
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04-25-2017, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted By Sp3cialK⏩
Just started checking out APA's website. I know I'd have to have a smith cut down my barrel and thread it as the pepper pot type brake on mine is part of the barrel. I'm just not sure whether to go that route or get a better barrel (too) with the brake. I think I'm leaning more toward the XLR. I'm glad to hear you like that one.I usually run a KRG Xray and am now running an XLR. I love the XLR so far. Well balanced and the grip setup/adjustability of the cheek-rest is great. AI chassis are good, but heavy. You would also need an adaptor for the bipod as you mentioned.
My favorite brakes (.308/6.5) is the APA lil bastard and the 419 Hellfire (using now). Both require only a threaded muzzle, as you set timing on them and snug the down with a collar nut.
My favorite brakes (.308/6.5) is the APA lil bastard and the 419 Hellfire (using now). Both require only a threaded muzzle, as you set timing on them and snug the down with a collar nut.
Originally Posted By rtm0004⏩
I'll look into them. It's like I said, I know there is plenty of potential and I've decided I want to make this rifle more than an "out of the box" rifle..I put a timney flat trigger in mine and it is very nice - can't help you with anything else - mine's stock except for the trigger
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Originally Posted By rtm0004⏩
Timney 517 flat is goat.I put a timney flat trigger in mine and it is very nice - can't help you with anything else - mine's stock except for the trigger
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04-25-2017, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted By mm394006⏩
25% off BA barrels:http://www.monmouthreloading.com/pro...stic-advantageYou're making much better progress on yours than I am on mine.
I need to just step it up and buy the stuff instead of waiting for a sale.
I need to just step it up and buy the stuff instead of waiting for a sale.
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04-25-2017, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
That's probably one of the best ideas I've ever seen you post man. I like it.what if instead you just had "PRIMARY PRIMARY PRIMARY PRIMARY PRIMARY" stamped on one side, and then "MACHINE MACHINE MACHINE MACHINE MACHINE" stamped on the other? insta win!
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Originally Posted By GMFB702⏩
You're seriously asking if an IWB or anAppendixIWB holster would be best for appendix carry?Which stealthgear holster would be best for aiwb for a shield 45 the appendix or iwb mini?
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I'm going to have multiple Primary Machine logos tattooed to my johnson . . . then when I get aroused they would all show up.
All 2-1/2 of them.
All 2-1/2 of them.
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Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
So 1/2" logos? Nice.I'm going to have multiple Primary Machine logos tattooed to my johnson . . . then when I get aroused they would all show up.
All 2-1/2 of them.
All 2-1/2 of them.
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Originally Posted By rtm0004⏩
probably the one designed for appendix carry
Originally Posted By jason_bh⏩
I thought a few people here ran the mini IWB while appendix carrying and I wanted to know if there was a specific reason why they chose that over the appendix. Maybe I was mistaken thought I'd ask though before buying.You're seriously asking if an IWB or anAppendixIWB holster would be best for appendix carry?
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
I f***ing love you25% off BA barrels:http://www.monmouthreloading.com/pro...stic-advantage
I was seriously going to order one off of the BA site about an hour ago and I got 3 phone calls for work and didn't get back around to it.
Which gas block do you recommend?
Can I use the AR15 barrel nut it lists in the recommended add-ons or do I need to pick up an AR10 version??
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04-25-2017, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By GMFB702⏩
I have the mini - I think it would work for an aiwb but it def is not the best choice - it's prob twice as long and the gun is canted in the holsterI thought a few people here ran the mini IWB while appendix carrying and I wanted to know if there was a specific reason why they chose that over the appendix. Maybe I was mistaken thought I'd ask though before buying.
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Originally Posted By rtm0004⏩
Thanks on spread I'm gonna go ahead and grab the appendix then.I have the mini - I think it would work for an aiwb but it def is not the best choice - it's prob twice as long and the gun is canted in the holster
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Originally Posted By rtm0004⏩
This is the real issue. You can (and I have) wear a regular IWB holster in an appendix position comfortably enough, but the angle of the gun is not ideal for optimal draw in that location. Most IWB have a forward cant (tilt) because they're meant to be worn around the 4 oclock position on your body, making them easier to draw from when you reach behind you. When you put that on your front side, that cant points the grip away from your hand, making you need to cock your wrist at weird angles to get a full grip on the gun. A holster made for appendix carry will have no cant or cant to the rear, making it easier to grab it when in front of you.I have the mini - I think it would work for an aiwb but it def is not the best choice - it's prob twice as long andthe gun is cantedin the holster
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Trying to make a section on pistol for USPSA Production....
Deciding between either a series 1 Shadow custom for 900
Or
Wait a month or so, and I can get a Shadow 2 for 1050
What do MFC?
EDIT: Relent, how bad is the finish/holster wear on these series 1 Shadow's?
Deciding between either a series 1 Shadow custom for 900
Or
Wait a month or so, and I can get a Shadow 2 for 1050
What do MFC?
EDIT: Relent, how bad is the finish/holster wear on these series 1 Shadow's?
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Anyone want to be my best friend ever and let me know what I am missing from my AR-10 build??
(pretty similar to what Ike is putting together... I just want make sure I've accounted for everything)
M5 Builder Set w/ 15" M-LOK Handguard, Gen 2 - FDE Cerakote(upper-lower-handguard)
M5 .308 StandardLower Parts Kit
.308 / 7.62Bolt Carrier Group, Complete - Black Nitride
M5 .308 RifleBuffer Kit, No Stock
Gas Block
Melonite Rifle LengthGas Tube
M5E1 HandguardBarrel Nut
PRS® GEN3 PRECISION-ADJUSTABLESTOCKFDE
Geissele SD-E Super DynamicTriggerGroup Enhanced Version
BCM 7.62 CH Mod 4charging handle
ERGO Tactical Deluxe Sure GripPistol Gripwith Palm Shelf
Harris 1A2-BRBipodSling Swivel Stud Mount 6" to 9" Black
Magpul M-LOKBipod MountAluminum Black
Precision Armarment M11Brake
PRECISION ARMAMENT - AR .308 5/8-24" ACCU-WASHER SYSTEM(brake washer)
Ballistic Advantage 308 Modern Series 20 HeavyBarrel
Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFPRiflescopewith EBR-1 MOA Reticle
Vortex Viper 30mmRiflescope Rings, Medium
(pretty similar to what Ike is putting together... I just want make sure I've accounted for everything)
M5 Builder Set w/ 15" M-LOK Handguard, Gen 2 - FDE Cerakote(upper-lower-handguard)
M5 .308 StandardLower Parts Kit
.308 / 7.62Bolt Carrier Group, Complete - Black Nitride
M5 .308 RifleBuffer Kit, No Stock
Gas Block
Melonite Rifle LengthGas Tube
M5E1 HandguardBarrel Nut
PRS® GEN3 PRECISION-ADJUSTABLESTOCKFDE
Geissele SD-E Super DynamicTriggerGroup Enhanced Version
BCM 7.62 CH Mod 4charging handle
ERGO Tactical Deluxe Sure GripPistol Gripwith Palm Shelf
Harris 1A2-BRBipodSling Swivel Stud Mount 6" to 9" Black
Magpul M-LOKBipod MountAluminum Black
Precision Armarment M11Brake
PRECISION ARMAMENT - AR .308 5/8-24" ACCU-WASHER SYSTEM(brake washer)
Ballistic Advantage 308 Modern Series 20 HeavyBarrel
Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFPRiflescopewith EBR-1 MOA Reticle
Vortex Viper 30mmRiflescope Rings, Medium
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04-25-2017, 12:34 PM
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New BATF letter stating the legality of shouldering pistol braces
04-25-2017, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted By jason_bh⏩
Who let this guy in? ^^^

Originally Posted By thefullmonte⏩
scratch both and get a Tanfoglio stock IITrying to make a section on pistol for USPSA Production....
Deciding between either a series 1 Shadow custom for 900
Or
Wait a month or so, and I can get a Shadow 2 for 1050
What do MFC?
Deciding between either a series 1 Shadow custom for 900
Or
Wait a month or so, and I can get a Shadow 2 for 1050
What do MFC?
but srs ... depends on your location, if your shooting season is weather dependent then loosing a month will take a lot of shooing away from you.
in reality the shadow 2 is 7 oz heavier and a bit longer sight radius but I dont think you will see a difference if you are a class B or C shooter..
04-25-2017, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Sp3cialK⏩
lol at that name and logo!The smell of Honest Amish isn't great. It's like a cinnamon/black licorice.
I'm first generation English on my moms side. Everyone is Amish.
Dodgers!
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04-25-2017, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By SpeedCheeser⏩
Got it thank you for the insight ordering an appendix.This is the real issue. You can (and I have) wear a regular IWB holster in an appendix position comfortably enough, but the angle of the gun is not ideal for optimal draw in that location. Most IWB have a forward cant (tilt) because they're meant to be worn around the 4 oclock position on your body, making them easier to draw from when you reach behind you. When you put that on your front side, that cant points the grip away from your hand, making you need to cock your wrist at weird angles to get a full grip on the gun. A holster made for appendix carry will have no cant or cant to the rear, making it easier to grab it when in front of you.
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