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Forum ยป lol @ all these geeks who look like they barely lift deadlifting 500+ whats the point
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Thread: lol @ all these geeks who look like they barely lift deadlifting 500+ whats the point

post 1510520031 07-03-2017, 04:05 AM
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learned this the hard way. phucked my ****t up for a month doing heavy deads. now i just don't go as heavy. whats the point of going really heavy if you ain't competing and harming your body in the long run. im sure you can make close to the same mass gains by limiting your self to only going to 70-80% of your max.
post 1510520541 07-03-2017, 04:21 AM
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Powerlifting and bodybuiding are opposing goals, I never understood why people try to achieve one by doing the other. For powerlifting you're trying to move a weight as easily as possible and for bodybuilding you're trying to make a muscle(s) move a weight with as much difficulty as possible. They both require using completely different leverages and form to achieve these goals.

We all know people do it due to ego and insecurity, even pro bodybuilders do this. Dallas McCarver would do a lot better if he went and trained with Dorian.
post 1510520781 07-03-2017, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted By TheFuarkingBoss⏩
Yeah why learn how to lift heavy phucking weight off the floor.

Would rather just look like I can do it but all I can really do is bicep curl a tin of beans for 300 reps
Thissss...

The brahs who actually care about deadlift numbers are fatsos that gave up on aesthetics and realised they're fat for life, good job mane don't do any cardio and get fat, what a shock...
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post 1510521051 07-03-2017, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted By Clkflynn⏩
Thissss...

The brahs who actually care about deadlift numbers are fatsos that gave up on aesthetics and realised they're fat for life, good job mane don't do any cardio and get fat, what a shock...
rarely do I see fat guys deadlifting, it's always lil johnny 2pl8 making a **** ton of noise
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Originally Posted By Clkflynn⏩
Thissss...

The brahs who actually care about deadlift numbers are fatsos that gave up on aesthetics and realised they're fat for life, good job mane don't do any cardio and get fat, what a shock...
I'm confused... so do people that deadlift 500 look like skinny nonlifters like OP stated or are they fatsos for life? does diet play a roll in this at all? or is it because they choose to deadlift, that it negates any nutrition and they are doomed to being forever unaesthetic nonlifters?

this is far too complicated for me to process. guess that's that
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post 1510521401 07-03-2017, 04:42 AM
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You can get good at deadlifts by practice or by being heavy.

I don't dead lift as it's not a very difficult exercise and did not deliver any gains that I could tell. I prefer squats. You won't find any skinny guys who can squat three plates as compared to the numerous skinny guys who can deadlift three plates.

Ofcourse, if you are heavier, you will be able to do more weights.
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post 1510521441 07-03-2017, 04:43 AM
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Insufficient data to back up OPs assertions

Because in 25 years training I have only seen one person do a deadlift with good form, Srs.
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post 1510521601 07-03-2017, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Hammersia⏩
Insufficient data to back up OPs assertions

Because in 25 years training I have only seen one person do a deadlift with good form, Srs.
the skinny guys bounce the weight off the floor or use chit form jerking the weight up lol
post 1510521891 07-03-2017, 04:54 AM
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I just wanted traps. I was told deadlifts would help, and I always did progressive overload anyway. Got to a respectable deadlift in no time, wasn't even planned, just happened.

The traps never came btw, they improved signifcantly but never had the "juicy AF" traps that I wanted. And no, I hate rack pulls
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Originally Posted By MitchellPhil⏩
I just wanted traps. I was told deadlifts would help, and I always did progressive overload anyway. Got to a respectable deadlift in no time, wasn't even planned, just happened.

The traps never came btw, they improved signifcantly but never had the "juicy AF" traps that I wanted. And no, I hate rack pulls
do rackpull and at the top do a set of shrugs
post 1510522481 07-03-2017, 05:15 AM
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I don't think anyone should discourage beginning lifters from on the most important compound lifts out there?

If you are a natural lifter and you're trying to pack on mass -you are going to have to deadlift heavy once in a while. There's no way around it.
post 1510522551 07-03-2017, 05:17 AM
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I deadlift all the time. I just keep it below an 8ish RPE and do sets of 6-8 most of the time and occasionally will do some triples. Never 1 rep max on anything anymore. I used to train powerlifting and lol at that. Being leaner is 100 times better than being 10% stronger.
post 1510523271 07-03-2017, 05:32 AM
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Natty and want to be big, pretty much gotta be strong that means having respectable numbers in the big compounds.

Geared to the gills, meh can do a lot of stuff and get big.

Personally I like finding a balance of strength and leaness. When I get too lean I feel like $hit.




post 1510524711 07-03-2017, 06:03 AM
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Deadlift is one of the GOAT movements for creating a thick, powerful looking physique. Plus the exercise is fun, easier than other lifts to progress in and just looks badass when you start shifting some heavy fukin weight. Show me any non-fat 700lb+ pullers who don't have thick, dense looking muscles.
post 1510524831 07-03-2017, 06:07 AM
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I can do nearly 4 plates now and I'm not very big. I think my form is good and the only time I injured my back was from doing ATG squats.

I remember reading starting strength years ago and thinking it was mostly broscience, but never really questioned deadlifts.

Food for thought OP, thanks.
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post 1510525831 07-03-2017, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Plateauplower⏩
Natty and want to be big, pretty much gotta be strong that means having respectable numbers in the big compounds.

Geared to the gills, meh can do a lot of stuff and get big.

Personally I like finding a balance of strength and leaness. When I get too lean I feel like $hit.




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Originally Posted By straightrippin3⏩
I don't think anyone should discourage beginning lifters from on the most important compound lifts out there?

If you are a natural lifter and you're trying to pack on mass -you are going to have to deadlift heavy once in a while. There's no way around it.
If you look at the avis of the people advocating no deadlifts you'll understand.
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Originally Posted By bigmane123⏩
in lifting that heavy ass weight and possibly ****ing up your back if you look like you dont even lift lol nobody knows you lift when you wear a t-shirt

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post 1510526281 07-03-2017, 06:35 AM
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So what is the cutoff/balance between the benefits of deadlifts vs risk?

Fatty checking in here who just started seriously lifting like 4-5 months ago
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Originally Posted By PeaceWithin⏩
So what is the cutoff/balance between the benefits of deadlifts vs risk?

Fatty checking in here who just started seriously lifting like 4-5 months ago
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Agree 100% on this. BRB risk ****ing up your joints, back, risking hernias etc. for minimal improvement in any day to day functions whilst not even looking like you lift

I mean each to their own and that, but what a pointless way to spend your time in the gym
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currently rotating floor deadlifts, rack deadlifts, and sumo deadlifts on my dc training split.
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Originally Posted By andishehhank⏩
currently rotating floor deadlifts, rack deadlifts, and sumo deadlifts on my dc training split.
Deadlifts are not mandatory if there is a medical reason to not do them, a lot of variants work well. Personally for growth, I saw my best results running BBB template of 5/3/1 and doing 5x10 sets. Noticeable hamstring growth, but they really sucked doing that much volume. RDLs are a good substitute as well for hamstring / posterior chain. There are always ways to work around certain things, but IMO in terms of efficiency hard to beat squats and deadlifts for overall development with minimal time spent in the gym. I have visible abs at high bodyfat percentages just from the core strength built from squats and deads.
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Agree as well. Deads are good, can't deny that they burn mad calories, but to me it's silly seeing these dudes lifting heavy, when they don't look like they even lift.

In other words, it's not contributing to how their overall physique looks nom say'n?
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Originally Posted By Plateauplower⏩
Deadlifts are not mandatory if there is a medical reason to not do them, a lot of variants work well. Personally for growth, I saw my best results running BBB template of 5/3/1 and doing 5x10 sets. Noticeable hamstring growth, but they really sucked doing that much volume. RDLs are a good substitute as well for hamstring / posterior chain. There are always ways to work around certain things, but IMO in terms of efficiency hard to beat squats and deadlifts for overall development with minimal time spent in the gym. I have visible abs at high bodyfat percentages just from the core strength built from squats and deads.
deadlifts are not mandatory on dc, I can also do rows for back thickness. I just prefer deadlifts because they work the overall back.
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Fuark. This post hit home OP, srs.

Got serious in the past year since I got a home gym with power rack. Did Starting Strength, then GSLP: Lifts all went up like CRAZY but I also got chunky. Cutting from 20% BF right now and honestly think I'm going to look like a DYEL again when I'm done, even though I'm SO much stronger than I was.

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