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post 1512424431 07-17-2017, 11:31 AM
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Protein makes me noticeably feel fuller than carbs or fats when I'm cutting. Carbs taste better and give me more energy
post 1512425641 07-17-2017, 11:42 AM
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Yea depending on supplements you don't need alot of protein to maintain a physique
post 1512426001 07-17-2017, 11:45 AM
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People are just catching on to the supplement industry being a scam? Wew lad.
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post 1512426901 07-17-2017, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted By aspirex⏩
yea man carbs give u higher testosterone levels, overeating protein can actually counteract your hormones
source?
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post 1512427631 07-17-2017, 11:59 AM
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I eat high protein because meat is tasty AF.
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post 1512428411 07-17-2017, 12:05 PM
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OP fraudin on seeing no difference eating huge amounts of protein, there's no way you've been up to 350g and not noticed your farts going from a mild aroma into room clearing chemical warfare.
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post 1512428711 07-17-2017, 12:08 PM
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80-90g of protein a day and I'm making gains perfectly fine. I used to religiously consume 1g per pound of bodyweight and it made no difference whatsoever.

High protein is 100% a scam.
post 1512428901 07-17-2017, 12:10 PM
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i hit 200g+ of protein a day and i've never taken a protein supplement in my life. 2 pack a day jerky habit plus usually a pound of shrimp for dinner + whatever else.
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post 1512429101 07-17-2017, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Madevilz⏩
I eat high protein because meat is tasty AF.
It's really not though. What you crave is the seasoning. By all means a burger is delicious. But I can objectively say that a black bean burger is equally as delicious.

If you're eating whole natural, unseasoned foods, fruit would hands down be the most tasty.

Also taste is an afterthought, I am interested in testing if low protein gives better results.
post 1512429221 07-17-2017, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By vsportsguy⏩
Doesn't make any fukin difference. I can feel the difference immediately when I eat carbs. The more carbs I eat, the better my life is. Better energy, better sleep, better mood, better lifts, better endurance. There's usually a 1 day lag period where the carbs I ate yesterday affect my performance today. When I eat healthy fats, I stay full for longer and have less inflammation.

But protein literally does nothing noticeable. It doesn't make me leaner, it doesn't make my lifts better, it doesn't help me recover any quicker, doesn't do much for my energy levels.

So if carbs and fats have a positive effect on my life and protein is doing so little in comparison, why am I wasting so many of my calories on it?

New macros are 60g fat, 400g carbs, 50g protein. We're always told high protein because of all of this research, but has anyone tried anything like this?
Not going to lie here, I was kinda' hoping you were going to be a skinny fat / twink so I could say:

"Looks like your muscles are a myth too."
post 1512429431 07-17-2017, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Reflexez⏩
OP fraudin on seeing no difference eating huge amounts of protein, there's no way you've been up to 350g and not noticed your farts going from a mild aroma into room clearing chemical warfare.
Not for months on end you tard. But yes I did do it for 2 weeks. There was a point in time where I thought more protein meant more gains so I wanted to see what happened if I ate almost exclusively protein. It didn't work out so well.
post 1512429531 07-17-2017, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By vsportsguy⏩
It's really not though. What you crave is the seasoning. By all means a burger is delicious. But I can objectively say that a black bean burger is equally as delicious.

If you're eating whole natural, unseasoned foods, fruit would hands down be the most tasty.

Also taste is an afterthought, I am interested in testing if low protein gives better results.
no way in fukk you're getting anywhere near 400g with fruit unless you live in the bathroom or wear diapers srs
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post 1512430051 07-17-2017, 12:20 PM
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depends, if u take your need from diet
no need for powder

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post 1512430221 07-17-2017, 12:22 PM
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What about that keto diet with 0 carbs and people saying they still have energy, in some cases more than before?

So many ways to go about it.
post 1512430251 07-17-2017, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By vsportsguy⏩
Doesn't make any fukin difference. I can feel the difference immediately when I eat carbs. The more carbs I eat, the better my life is. Better energy, better sleep, better mood, better lifts, better endurance. There's usually a 1 day lag period where the carbs I ate yesterday affect my performance today. When I eat healthy fats, I stay full for longer and have less inflammation.

But protein literally does nothing noticeable. It doesn't make me leaner, it doesn't make my lifts better, it doesn't help me recover any quicker, doesn't do much for my energy levels.

So if carbs and fats have a positive effect on my life and protein is doing so little in comparison, why am I wasting so many of my calories on it?

New macros are 60g fat, 400g carbs, 50g protein. We're always told high protein because of all of this research, but has anyone tried anything like this?
different things work for different body types and life styles. you found what works for you, that's good. but it's not a myth...
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post 1512430491 07-17-2017, 12:24 PM
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post 1512430531 07-17-2017, 12:24 PM
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Many books done on protein myths just google or Amazon it. Cliffs is that op is right
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post 1512430721 07-17-2017, 12:26 PM
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Agreed. Gonna start doing 100g/day
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Originally Posted By vsportsguy⏩
It is not. I did water deplete and have a pump for it though.

I have given no advice in this thread, I'm simply questioning why I've been eating high protein for the past 11 years.
I can remember busting my ass in college to eat every 2 hours, make sure to have at least 30g of protein a meal and get over 200g a day. Meanwhile: my brother and my roommate both had better gains/physiques eating under 100g and eating ridiculously high carb. That was when I started to realize maybe my muscles wouldnt fall off eating less than what many on this site at that time recommended. Been going lower and lower since then. Weigh about 215 right now and eat 100g (usually closer to 100) to 160g of protein with zero difference from when i was eating way more.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
no way in fukk you're getting anywhere near 400g with fruit unless you live in the bathroom or wear diapers srs
No no, I could never do that much fruit. I mean fruit would be good with my macro setup, but the bulk of my calories would come from things like brown rice or oatmeal.
post 1512431551 07-17-2017, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted By vsportsguy⏩
I'm an all or nothing kind of guy. How am I supposed to test how much protein I need if I don't go to an extreme? I did the same thing with fat. And I've done it with the high end of protein as well, eating 350g of protein a day. But I've never actually tested the low end of the protein spectrum because I was afraid I would lose all my gains.
I can respect that mindset, not like experimenting with protein intake is gonna actually harm you, so at worst you're just wasting a bit of time/potential progress. Regardless of the outcome you will have learned something. Sorry if you've already mentioned it, how long have you been following these macros? Curious to see how it pans out in the long run.
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First, 50g protein is full retard. It's nowhere near enough.

That being said, if your protein is too high and you're not on a surplus, then your fat and carb intake may not be high enough to sustain healthy hormone levels. Especially if the carbs aren't complex and the fats aren't saturated or monounsaturated.
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I honestly don't really notice the difference between 100g of protein and 300g of protein when bulking.

But boyo, let me tell you, when cutting it's all about high fat, high protein, low carb. Actually feel better when cutting than bulking srs.

Keto works really well for me too. Although other people I know have hated it, and I wouldn't recommend doing it too often or for too long a period a time. RIP kidneys.

The most underrate nutrient in bodybuilding is fat. The best thing I ever did was pump up my fat intake, srs.
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Originally Posted By tokelift⏩
I can respect that mindset, not like experimenting with protein intake is gonna actually harm you, so at worst you're just wasting a bit of time/potential progress. Regardless of the outcome you will have learned something. Sorry if you've already mentioned it, how long have you been following these macros? Curious to see how it pans out in the long run.
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Originally Posted By ballsman12⏩
this sounds crazy af, but it seems for me interms of bulding muscle carbs/calories seems to be all that matters, and in terms of strength, protein matters. 20-50g protein a day, legit look big/decent size, can't lift for ****/don't make progress.
Carbs are strongly correlated with strength, not protein. You wont find a competitive powerlifter in the world prepping on low carb. It's bodybuilders who drop their carbs and keep the protein high while dieting and they end up weak as fuk.

Ever done keto? It drops weight fast, but it's also a good way to lose all your strength in the gym.
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average american diet is over 50g, i think you'd really have to go out of your way to achieve it
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Literally doesnt make any difference for me going beyond 100g and i dont feel like i have to stuff food into me. Just one big steak, a can of tuna,my post workout shake and im good.

Steroid users are able to metabolize insane amounts of protein, nattys arent.
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When bulking it doesn't really matter, because you'll probably eat a minimum of 120 grams of protein a day anyway without trying so there's no use stressing about getting extra protein in. Just focus on eating a lot of food.

However during a cut I prefer high protein (180-200 grams a day), only because of its satiety effects. It helps me train better because I'm not feeling hungry all the time.

But I agree, I made significantly more gains lowering my protein and upping my fats in particular.
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