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» “Loneliness Kills. It’s As Powerful As Smoking Or Alcoholism.”
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post 1512899831 07-21-2017, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted By NotARotter
Stopped reading at "meditation". phucking lol at that useless new wave spiritual bull****

people who waste precious time "meditating" are loser cucks almost 100% of the time
Meditation has proven benefits.
post 1512900551 07-21-2017, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted By NotARotter
Stopped reading at "meditation". phucking lol at that useless new wave spiritual bull****

people who waste precious time "meditating" are loser cucks almost 100% of the time
lol taking 5-10 minutes of your day to find what space you're in is a loser tactic? You'd rather distract your mind with TV fluff than to self reflect for a couple minutes a day?

looool. wow.
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post 1512900851 07-21-2017, 08:37 AM
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This is why I'm so grateful for the misc! I spend most of my time alone in my home office working, don't generally interact with people face to face on a daily basis. It really is a lonely life. If not for the misc the only people I'd talk to regularly would be my clients. I get really excited about going to the gym or the grocery store lol time to mingle! I'm doing a lot better than I was last year, alcoholism is a sonofabitch. Your opening post is too much rl op.
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post 1512901291 07-21-2017, 08:41 AM
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There is nothing in the world like coming home to three kids happy to see you.
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i dont have much friends which i dont really care for in today's world but as long as i got my family with me i'm content
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Originally Posted By primetime32
There is nothing in the world like coming home to three kids happy to see you.
thats only for a limited time. until you open the door to your house and see some teenage ******* hanging around your daughters room.
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i think what is most brital about loneliness is huimans nature to exacerbate it; we treat someone already suffering from it as "weird".

its definitely gotten better. all anxiety and generally depression, stems from isolation; an experience or experiences or an event that isolates you from normal society. in the past, you could be thrown in a mental istitution for masturbation.

for example if we see someone with low self esteem, generally people treat them worse and exacerbate it, instead of trying to make it better

better example you see some kid suffering from a terrible home life, we treat him worse and compound the problem
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Lonely? I'm not lonely, I have the misc to make fun of me 24 hours a day.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
I've truly never felt a hint of "loneliness". If you are just the type of person who isn't lonely, is it OK to go about your life mostly alone?

I have a gf but don't want to ever move in together with her. I like being able to go be alone 100% of the time.
10 years from now you'll be singing a different tune. Guaranteed.
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post 1512907391 07-21-2017, 09:36 AM
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reasons for admission to insane asylums from 1864 to 1869


http://www.snopes.com/reasons-admiss...-asylum-1800s/

including

"novel reading"
"immoral life"
"laziness"
"asthma"
"over action of the mind"
"egotism"

lmao through laziness and egotism youve pretty much covered the entire species

feel like ive seen a different list before
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Originally Posted By NotARotter
Stopped reading at "meditation". phucking lol at that useless new wave spiritual bull****

people who waste precious time "meditating" are loser cucks almost 100% of the time
Meditation is great i wish I could do it, you're fuking pathetic labeling it cuck negged
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
I've truly never felt a hint of "loneliness". If you are just the type of person who isn't lonely, is it OK to go about your life mostly alone?

I have a gf but don't want to ever move in together with her. I like being able to go be alone 100% of the time.
Originally Posted By nvrstopworking
10 years from now you'll be singing a different tune. Guaranteed.
Why is it "guaranteed" - because you are projecting your own personality onto someone else? Some people are introverted and prefer to be alone most of the time. The desire to be alone hasn't changed much for me over the years guy.
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post 1512908851 07-21-2017, 09:50 AM
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This sort of area is what I'm moving into research-wise for my PhD. That is, how both social-environmental factors and the way in which we process them psychologically can either increase or deter risk for mental and medical problems.

One fascinating manuscript:
Originally Posted By Slavich
Research is now demonstrating that some social-environmental factors, such as social isolation and rejection, can influence the activity of not just a couple of genes but broad sets of hundreds of genes (i.e., gene profiles or gene programs). It has long been known that social-environmental conditions can shape complex behavioral phenotypes and susceptibility to disease (Cohen, Janicki-Deverts, & Miller, 2007). These new discoveries suggest that the external social world may exert these effects in part by influencing our most deeply internal biological processes—namely, the expression of our genes.
This is why when someone tries to claim that psychologist isn't a science, they don't know what they are saying. Two people can be exposed to the same exact environment, but the proximal ways in which we process and respond to those environments (i.e., via cognitive or behavioral strategies) can result in drastically different effects downstream at physiological, neurological, and genetic levels of analysis. See:
Originally Posted By Slavich
More recently, though, evidence has accumulated demonstrating that social-environmental conditions, even purely imagined or symbolic cognitive representations of such conditions, can also trigger broad shifts in the basal transcriptome, thereby forming the empirical basis for human social genomics.
To whoever above said meditation is nonsense: reconsider.
All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.
post 1512909441 07-21-2017, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted By mynameisuntz
This sort of area is what I'm moving into research-wise for my PhD. That is, how both social-environmental factors and the way in which we process them psychologically can either increase or deter risk for mental and medical problems.

One fascinating manuscript:



This is why when someone tries to claim that psychologist isn't a science, they don't know what they are saying. Two people can be exposed to the same exact environment, but the proximal ways in which we process and respond to those environments (i.e., via cognitive or behavioral strategies) can result in drastically different effects downstream at physiological, neurological, and genetic levels of analysis. See:



To whoever above said meditation is nonsense: reconsider.
whats weird to me is.. how do brains and "genes" interact?

is it considered that our brain is sort deterministic in its thinking - i.e. that genes layout the framework for our brain?

ive always considered genes to be more physiological and looked at our brain as more of a "blank slate"

you can see how they influence each other regardless..how you feel is going to influence your thoughts. if youre fat and lazy struggling to breathe getting off the couche, good chance youre not gonna have the highest self-esteem/ most productive thoughts
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Originally Posted By propreffered7
whats weird to me is.. how do brains and "genes" interact?
Neural processes can influence genetic activity via a host of various second messenger systems. As can endocrine processes. All we're talking about is influencing genetic activity to result in, for example, the creation of new/more proteins to perform some sort of intra-/inter-cellular process.
is it considered that our brain is sort deterministic in its thinking - i.e. that genes layout the framework for our brain?

ive always considered genes to more physiological and looked at our brain as more of a "blank slate"
Genes surely layout a blueprint for the brain, but it is far from deterministic. That's what is most fascinating to me. Take social anxiety disorder (SAD) as an example. When individuals with SAD confront distressing environments where they may be evaluated negatively, there are key areas of their brain that will light up. One key area involves the amygdala (partly responsible for fear processing), which will then influence the HPA axis (partly responsible for hormonal control). This can result in a host of events which includes increased inflammatory responding, which is associated with really bad medical outcomes (pretty much all of the top 10 medical causes of death). Untreated, this SAD will result in continued amygdala activation, HPA activation, and downstream inflammation. Compounded over time, this can expose this individual to harmful medical problems.

Yet if we take this person and just shift their behavior in relatively minor ways, it can completely tune down the amygdala hyperresponsivity, downregulate HPA activation, and essentially turn off the proinflammatory response. Just from changing their behavior in a couple key ways and practiced over the course of a few weeks. That's powerful stuff.

All it means is the often presumed direction where biology -> behavior is deeply flawed, and that behavior influencing biology is an extremely robust avenue of change for some of the most complex biological processes in the human body.
Originally Posted By propreffered7
you can see how they influence each other regardless..how you feel is going to influence your thoughts. if youre fat and lazy struggling to breathe getting off the couche, good chance youre not gonna have the highest self-esteem/ most productive thoughts
To me, what I'm describing is more profound than that. People have often kept cognitive events in the psychological arena and not allowed them into biology. That is, being unmotivated will make you lonely and that will make you develop major depression (or something along those lines). What we are actually seeing is that the cognitive interpretation of events,even if there is no harmful/threatening element contained within those environment events, is sufficient for serious biological problems to develop. All because of what someonethinks.

Our thoughts literally influence genetic activity. That'sprofound.
All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.
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Originally Posted By keels141
Why is it "guaranteed" - because you are projecting your own personality onto someone else? Some people are introverted and prefer to be alone most of the time. The desire to be alone hasn't changed much for me over the years guy.
agreed. I'm 29 and feel that way now. I can see that type of doubt for a 19 year old boyo, but I am starting to think I'm pretty set in my ways at this juncture tbh.
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Originally Posted By mynameisuntz
This can result in a host of events which includes increased inflammatory responding, which is associated with really bad medical outcomes (pretty much all of the top 10 medical causes of death).
this would be akin to irregular heart beat/ racing, shortness of breath, etc. associated with panic? and why some people go to the hospital for a panic attack?

obviously extend that over a prolonged period of time and its not good
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Our thoughts literally influence genetic activity. That'sprofound.
definitely
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What about people who willingly go off to live as a recluse?
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Originally Posted By propreffered7
this would be akin to irregular heart beat/ racing, shortness of breath, etc. associated with panic? and why some people go to the hospital for a panic attack?

obviously extend that over a prolonged period of time and its not good
Panic actually isn't problematic in itself: it's just a heightened autonomic response. From what we can tell, it's actually thefearthat is problematic. Fear-based emotions elicit that inflammatory response I referenced earlier because, in evolutionary history, fear was often a sound predictor that physical damage would be incurred. Now just cue classical conditioning processes and fear becomes a stimulus for inflammationeven withoutphysical damage actually being incurred. This process was great 10,000 years ago, but it's not so great for those of us in the industrialized world who fear things which are rarely associated with physical damage.

So, the panic isn't the cue for this physiological response, but rather thefearof panic is.
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Lonlinless is the worst, humans are social creatures, we're not meant to be lone wolves or be alone srs
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Yes good post. When people learn I'm alone a lot and go out alone etc I can tell they think I'm weird and sometimes they even outright say it. Or they say oh wow I would NEVER go do --- alone! So then you feel weird especially if it's in a group.

Also agree that some people try to pick on people with low self esteem and put them down or patronize them. Feels terrible.
Also this, have experienced this before :\
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Originally Posted By keels141
Why is it "guaranteed" - because you are projecting your own personality onto someone else? Some people are introverted and prefer to be alone most of the time. The desire to be alone hasn't changed much for me over the years guy.
You're only 32. If you're still alone and loving it at 42... or 52... it's probably because you have some sort of psychological issue. Humans aren't meant to exist alone. Why do you think "solitary confinement" is used as punishment in prisons?

I'm not suggesting that you have to be some sort of social butterfly... but if you're a shut-in for years on end it's very likely that there's something wrong.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Yes and I'm decent looking (by regular standards not misc standards) so I can just see people thinking wow there must be something really wrong with her or she must be really weird. Feels terrible really.

I generally try not to care about what people think but it does hurt my feelings because I don't like being lonely myself.
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Originally Posted By NotARotter
Stopped reading at "meditation". phucking lol at that useless new wave spiritual bull****

people who waste precious time "meditating" are loser cucks almost 100% of the time
first time in like a year i negged someone
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I would think so, we're DESIGNED to be social.

Loneliness to us is the same as for say a dog.

Picture a dog that just stays locked up, no affection, no exercise, no socialization.

Now think of a dog treated the exact opposite way.

Which dog do you think will live longer?
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