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post 1558871471 08-15-2018, 02:42 PM
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vaccinations definitely trigger autism in some children. how else can you explain that a child is perfectly healthy when they walk into the doctor's office and then after they receive the shot they literally become autistic? autism used to be listed as one of the side effects of the vaccines, before it became such a hot button political issue.

of course in most kids they don't trigger anything, so you can't say they CAUSE autism.

the question is, why are those children suffering the side effects? I'd imagine that they are already at risk due to other factors such as high exposure to other toxins, formula fed, etc..
post 1558871521 08-15-2018, 02:43 PM
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AutismSpectrumDisorder

This ranges from people who can't even function without a 24/7 caregiver to someone who has slight Asperger's. Hence the "rise" in diagnoses.
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post 1558871611 08-15-2018, 02:43 PM
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I think it's the birth control pills. SRS.
post 1558871761 08-15-2018, 02:45 PM
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In all honesty, I think it's just being diagnosed more and being enabled more. Back in the day, it wouldn't be diagnosed and they would basically be ignored.
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post 1558871811 08-15-2018, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted By LyonGaultier
I think it's the birth control pills. SRS.
I definitely think there's something to that.
birth control pills and abortion have horrendous implications for the female body.
post 1558871911 08-15-2018, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted By NeedToBang
Women having kids at an older age i'd imagine.
This.

And more awareness when it comes to diagnosis.
post 1558872071 08-15-2018, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene
I definitely think there's something to that.
birth control pills and abortion have horrendous implications for the female body.
it would be more likely that they cause gaylordism due to the feminization or masculinization of developing brains that is inconsistent with the individual's chromo****l gender
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post 1558872191 08-15-2018, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene
vaccinations definitely trigger autism in some children. how else can you explain that a child is perfectly healthy when they walk into the doctor's office and then after they receive the shot they literally become autistic? autism used to be listed as one of the side effects of the vaccines, before it became such a hot button political issue.

of course in most kids they don't trigger anything, so you can't say they CAUSE autism.

the question is, why are those children suffering the side effects? I'd imagine that they are already at risk due to other factors such as high exposure to other toxins, formula fed, etc..
What? Kids are instantly going from normal to autistic after receiving a vaccine? The vaccine-autism link was promoted by a discredited doctor who published a fraudulent study.

Why are there so many vaccine skeptics posting today? Is this national vaccine disinformation day? What's going on?
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post 1558872571 08-15-2018, 02:52 PM
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In other news, this article shows increased risk for autism if the mother got her first period early (60% and 30% increase for first period before age 8 and age 11). And 100% increase if mom BMI was >30.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3494408/
Originally Posted By ChristianMR
What? Kids are instantly going from normal to autistic after receiving a vaccine? The vaccine-autism link was promoted by a discredited doctor who published a fraudulent study.

Why are there so many vaccine skeptics posting today? Is this national vaccine disinformation day? What's going on?
It’s literally the only thing that has been DEFINITIVELY disproved as a risk factor.
They said she's gone too far this time

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post 1558872611 08-15-2018, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene
I definitely think there's something to that.
birth control pills and abortion have horrendous implications for the female body.
Agreed. bro. Drug culture could also have something to do with it but there's doctor's that have kids with autism. It's the vaccine at birth or birth control, that messes up the women's birth system. Back in the day it was because the kid was born to early or the woman had an abortion before.
post 1558872681 08-15-2018, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted By ChristianMR
What? Kids are instantly going from normal to autistic after receiving a vaccine? The vaccine-autism link was promoted by a discredited doctor who published a fraudulent study.

Why are there so many vaccine skeptics posting today? Is this national vaccine disinformation day? What's going on?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/david...b_2468343.html

thoughts?
post 1558872861 08-15-2018, 02:55 PM
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First of all, where are you getting these numbers from? 1 in 59 sounds ridiculous
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene
(1) That's a known but extremely rare adverse event (side-effect) that isn't related to normal autism.
(2) Don't assume that jury trials get the science right or even that judges get the science right.

In other words, that doesn't support the vaccine-->autism hypothesis.
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post 1558873271 08-15-2018, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene
The vaccines caused adverse reactions in the kids which resulted in neurological damage.

There are studies showing correlation between neurological injuries at a young age and autism. I.e. concussions, being dropped, brain bleeds, any other brain trauma have positive correlation. Inb4 walking causes autism. Bc every time a kid walks, he risks falling on his face.
They said she's gone too far this time

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post 1558873301 08-15-2018, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Omnivium
First of all, where are you getting these numbers from? 1 in 59 sounds ridiculous
https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/data.html
post 1558873381 08-15-2018, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene
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post 1558873451 08-15-2018, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted By TrinnieBuu
The vaccines caused adverse reactions in the kids which resulted in neurological damage.

There are studies showing correlation between neurological injuries at a young age and autism. I.e. concussions, being dropped, brain bleeds, any other brain trauma have positive correlation. Inb4 walking causes autism. Bc every time a kid walks, he risks falling on his face.
so in other words, the vaccines caused the autism in these children
post 1558873601 08-15-2018, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene
so in other words, the vaccines caused the autism in these children
If you want to put it in the most misleading and scientifically unhelpful way, then OK.
Take it easy Christian
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene
so in other words, the vaccines caused the autism in these children
no, the court ruled in both cases that the vaccines caused crippling encephalitis.

encephalitis is not autism. autismal people can get encephalitis though, which is what happened. so.
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Originally Posted By devin45k
In all honesty, I think it's just being diagnosed more and being enabled more. Back in the day, it wouldn't be diagnosed and they would basically be ignored.
Think there is over-diagnosis too though, it's the same with mental illness. They just want to throw any medication they can at you has been my experience. Especially now with the trend to discontinue use of scheduled medications. I had to go all the way out to Utah to be prescribed ******** because of chit going on around here. I come back here and they take me off immediately and try and throw me on all sorts of other medications instead of the chit I need.
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Originally Posted By ChristianMR
(1) That's a known but extremely rare adverse event (side-effect) that isn't related to normal autism.
(2) Don't assume that jury trials get the science right or even that judges get the science right.

In other words, that doesn't support the vaccine-->autism hypothesis.
vaccines don't cause autism, except for when they do in some children.
denying that the vaccines caused autism in these children is an insane amount of denial.
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or the fact that we havent payed much attention to this issue before, now everyone who isnt doing as well as their parents expect them to need a diagnosis and needs to be put on the spectrum, most of them arent rainman.

Some truly have autism and other major issues but a lot of the people on the spectrum simply have different personality traits not suited for life in a cubicle.
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene
vaccines don't cause autism, except for when they do in some children.
denying that the vaccines caused autism in these children is an insane amount of denial.
Read AltarOfPlagues' response, please.

Trinnie is also right. Traumatic neurological injury can be linked to autism.

The reason your characterization is so misleading is that it is plainly false that 1 in 59 children receive traumatic brain injury from vaccines, so this cannot be the cause for the rise in modern autism rates. I.e.,Vaccines --> traumatic brain injury --> autismcannot possibly be the cause in the rise of autism.

By analogy: sunburns can cause open sores, which can be infected with MRSA. Does this mean that the sun is the reason for the rise in MRSA?
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Autism is related to Bowlby's attachment theory in Psychology

It's the parents fault.
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It's not simply more diagnosis. There is a problem, but who know what's causing the rise in rates.
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Originally Posted By ChristianMR
Read AltarOfPlagues' response, please.

Trinnie is also right. Traumatic neurological injury can be linked to autism.

The reason your characterization is so misleading is that it is plainly false that 1 in 59 children receive traumatic brain injury from vaccines, so this cannot be the cause the rise in modern autism rates.

By analogy: sunburns can cause open sores, which can be infected with MRSA. Does this mean that the sun is the reason for the rise in MRSA?
where did I say that 1 in 59 receive traumatic brain injury? you just made that up.

this is what I said:

"vaccinations definitely trigger autism in some children. how else can you explain that a child is perfectly healthy when they walk into the doctor's office and then after they receive the shot they literally become autistic? autism used to be listed as one of the side effects of the vaccines, before it became such a hot button political issue.

of course in most kids they don't trigger anything, so you can't say they CAUSE autism."
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene
where did I say that 1 in 59 receive traumatic brain injury? you just made that up.

this is what I said:

"vaccinations definitely trigger autism in some children. how else can you explain that a child is perfectly healthy when they walk into the doctor's office and then after they receive the shot they literally become autistic? autism used to be listed as one of the side effects of the vaccines, before it became such a hot button political issue.

of course in most kids they don't trigger anything, so you can't say they CAUSE autism."
Ok, look, if you're worried that vaccines cause exceptionally rare adverse events, that's fine. It's a cost-benefit analysis, and it is very clearly true that the cost (death and morbidity) of non-vaccination outweighs the extremely low risk of adverse events.

But you started this thread to explore why 1 in 59 apparently are now on the autism spectrum. I'm pointing out that extremely rare adverse events related to vaccines cannot possibly be the reason.
Take it easy Christian
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an MIT scientist has a theory that by 2025 the autism rates will be 1 out of 2!!!
she says the glyphosate sprayed is the cause...

https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/06/07...eah-sure-11337
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene
an MIT scientist has a theory that by 2025 the autism rates will be 1 out of 2!!!
she says the glyphosate sprayed is the cause...

https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/06/07...eah-sure-11337
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene
an MIT scientist has a theory that by 2025 the autism rates will be 1 out of 2!!!
she says the glyphosate sprayed is the cause...

https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/06/07...eah-sure-11337
What the fukk? It was vaccines just a minute ago.

It's hard to follow your conspiracy theories, Mitch. Also, that MIT scientist works in AI and computer science.
Take it easy Christian
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