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» The best way to go up the corporate ladder is lying in your resume
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post 1664866673 07-23-2022, 07:16 PM
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Ok but for SDE roles at actual tech companies if you come in as a principal and you're a dumbass, you're gettin a pip real fast


That being said you can get away with a lot for engineering roles at non tech corporations. They really just setting up e commerce sites and stuff.
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post 1664867313 07-23-2022, 07:40 PM
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post 1664869203 07-23-2022, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted By BillTheBro
Ok but for SDE roles at actual tech companies if you come in as a principal and you're a dumbass, you're gettin a pip real fast


That being said you can get away with a lot for engineering roles at non tech corporations. They really just setting up e commerce sites and stuff.
Well i just gave the SDE example to illustrate my proposal as their progression ladder is very simple to see

but it applies to most role, specially business types. in which a senior employee is usually ready to perform at the next level but usually isnt given the oportunity unless he has the blessing of another company

Someone said he was a regional manager, if u are managing a sizable salesforce and store number u most likely are already qualified to perform as a national manager, yet most companies wont give u the opportunity unless u are "proven" at the bigger role, just lie at that point
post 1664869973 07-23-2022, 08:58 PM
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resumes are a formality.

network is king.

i make 6 figures and didnt even have to interview. the supervisor wrote it up that i was interviewed but he lied. someone i knew worked there and they went through all the applications and told them to pick me due to my reputation and abilities.
post 1664871123 07-23-2022, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted By skier!
lol sure you do

"the supervisor"

you mean the guy at Safeway getting you the interview with the dairy manager. I'm sure you are great at stocking the milk and greek yogurt
youre talking to a real one here chief. i have an extensive network and advanced degrees.
post 1664871423 07-23-2022, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted By skier!
I'm sure you do dude, these are your pics you have posted. You have an advanced high school education in stocking a dairy fridge.

Imagine stealing your gimmick from a manlet boomer who wears short shorts in the park. come up with your own material chief
post 1664871633 07-23-2022, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted By skier!
I work in machine learning, I should run your pics through a neural network and ID and locate you.
yeah real worried about an autist computer nerd, chief
post 1664871643 07-23-2022, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted By skier!
I work in machine learning, I should run your pics through a neural network and ID and locate you.
My whore worked in machine learning and that isnt how it works.

You can just run an image search on my boy, u dont need ML
post 1664871913 07-23-2022, 09:52 PM
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post 1664871973 07-23-2022, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Beast92
My whore worked in machine learning and that isnt how it works.

You can just run an image search on my boy, u dont need ML
well duh hes a fraudcel of course he doesnt know how it works
post 1664872023 07-23-2022, 09:57 PM
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How do you network? Where i work all the managers are woke or just kiss each others asses to move up. Also most managers are 50+ it's rare to see any that are in their 30's
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post 1664872413 07-23-2022, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe
In my experience it just comes down to how much the hiring manager likes you and nothing to do with ur skill or whatever, unless it's a super technical position.
I've hired between 25 and 35 people with only 2 people that were real disappointments. I think like most people tasked with hiring we are pretty good at sniffing out BS and when I follow up with their references, it's just a formality.

Has nothing to do with "liking you," it's if you can do the job or not.
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post 1664872593 07-23-2022, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Bando
I've hired between 25 and 35 people with only 2 people that were real disappointments. I think like most people tasked with hiring we are pretty good at sniffing out BS and when I follow up with their references, it's just a formality.

Has nothing to do with "liking you," it's if you can do the job or not.
This is not about incompetent people frauding their way and then failing at the job, it is about high potential, competent people leveling themselves up

The second group will do well in the interview, know what they are talking about and perform well. Its faking it till they make it level and salary wise
post 1664872603 07-23-2022, 10:19 PM
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lol @ even having a resume. Suit up, go to the company, ask to speak to the boss, give a nice firm handshake and say you're looking for a job.
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post 1664873173 07-23-2022, 10:50 PM
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It’s not lying

It’s putting forward the best version of yourself
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post 1664873233 07-23-2022, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted By moosik85
It’s not lying

It’s putting forward the best version of yourself
thats the attitude, i call it "fluffing" your CV, not a lie, just a booster
post 1664873503 07-23-2022, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe
faking it till they make it level and salary wise
Got nothing against that, if you got the balls to do, do it - if you're not gonna get anyone killed.

Now if you're Frank Abignail and they ask you to actually fly the airliner, then I would be like hold up.
Don't put that on me Ricky Bobby, don't you ever put that on me.
post 1664874003 07-23-2022, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Bando
Got nothing against that, if you got the balls to do, do it - if you're not gonna get anyone killed.

Now if you're Frank Abignail and they ask you to actually fly the airliner, then I would be like hold up.
Even yahoo's ceo faked his degree back in 2012, he got fired after they found out, however, he was convincent enough for all of his career to level up to that level. This is a prime example of a guy who faked it and made it

Yahoo confirms CEO is out after resume scandal
https://money.cnn.com/2012/05/13/tec...-out/index.htm
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Yahoo CEO Scott Thompson is out after it was found he padded his resume with an embellished college degree, ending his term at the company after just four months.
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Originally Posted By Beast92
Even yahoo's ceo faked his degree back in 2012, he got fired after they found out, however, he was convincent enough for all of his career to level up to that level. This is a prime example of a guy who faked it and made it

Yahoo confirms CEO is out after resume scandal
https://money.cnn.com/2012/05/13/tec...-out/index.htm
Wonder what he's up to today. There is some comedian actor that fills up the page when trying to search him.

Anyways, had a GM at a place I worked for do this. Said he was the GM of another facility that had been closed down (long after he said he left there). Also had some other BS on his rusume where he found someone with the same name as him that owned a business and had sold it. Long story short, he was our GM for 7mo. Banged half the female sales staff. Pulled some scams while he was there. They fired him but during that time, they reported high earnings, which he used to get a high up corporate job. Nobody cares about morality in business. All they care about is who brings the money. He could prove he brought the money.

Pro-tip. The whole system is a fraud full of corruption and scams. The real players learn how to use the rules to their advantage without actually following them.
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post 1664892483 07-24-2022, 12:18 PM
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I would have thought HR can ask about the employment dates for different positions you've had in the same company as well as your dates of continual employment.

If you lie on your application you could be in for a bad surprise. Seems like a really bad idea.
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne
I would have thought HR can ask about the employment dates for different positions you've had in the same company as well as your dates of continual employment.

If you lie on your application you could be in for a bad surprise. Seems like a really bad idea.
How are they going to prove anything? Call the previous employer? it sounds like such an over reach

What u need to make sure is that you were employed on the dates you provide and put in the real employer. Background checks will come out clean as company and employment dates will match

Take a look at Apple, after someone leaves, they change his job title to "associate", so u may very well have been a Director but they will screw up your background check by downgrading you

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...ple-associate/
In widely used databases that companies refer to for verification of job information, Apple changes the job title for every employee, whether they’re a PhD in computer science or a product manager, to “associate,” the company confirms.
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The fastest and easiest paths are not always the wisest. I take pride in knowing I've done what I've done, I'd probably have an identity crisis or imposter syndrome if I made chit up and try to lie my way into a high level job. My lack of performance, or inability to communicate as expected wouldn't go unnoticed lol.

This thread makes me think of Catch Me If You Can.



It feels great to grow and get better. Integrity and honor matter most as technology develops, srs. It's something that the generation/society is leaving behind. Living a life as a fraud is a weak feeling, and if you get caught I believe it's suable after you've accepted payroll, srs.
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