01-09-2024, 10:59 AM
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#31
Originally Posted By Zelensky⏩
Chit like this is why western society is on it's way down, only thing these big corporations care about anymore is how people look, to hell with qualifications or ability.Fully 80% of the new class of pilots they graduated are women and/or non whites.

Also, United partners with Elizabeth State University, an HBCU which had the distinction in the 1980s of being the only university in which the average SAT math score was lower than that score which would have been produced if a person had guessed "B" on all the multiple choice questions on the test from the previous year.
Also, United partners with Elizabeth State University, an HBCU which had the distinction in the 1980s of being the only university in which the average SAT math score was lower than that score which would have been produced if a person had guessed "B" on all the multiple choice questions on the test from the previous year.
01-09-2024, 11:32 AM
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#32
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
What makes you think a gov't organization can properly review their output? Like should someone at the FAA stand on the assembly line and make sure the employee torques the nuts enough?Boeing are fukking crooked and this is an example of why regulatory capture is chit. You let industries that are meant to be regulated by exterior entities regulate themselves, and you will get guaranteed cut corners.
The chit thing is, for like an extra 2 billion a year you can put full control back into FAA's hands and pass the cost onto the airlines, since the business generates 155 billion a year.
Back in the day, CEOs of aviation companies were actually aviation qualified in some sense, now it's Harvard MBAs who only care about short term prices.
The chit thing is, for like an extra 2 billion a year you can put full control back into FAA's hands and pass the cost onto the airlines, since the business generates 155 billion a year.
Back in the day, CEOs of aviation companies were actually aviation qualified in some sense, now it's Harvard MBAs who only care about short term prices.
01-10-2024, 08:19 AM
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01-10-2024, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
There can be an effective middle ground between no oversight and what you're suggesting.What makes you think a gov't organization can properly review their output? Like should someone at the FAA stand on the assembly line and make sure the employee torques the nuts enough?
As usual with these things, it's turning out the quality control problems were an open secret for a while now.
01-10-2024, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Not to mention that over the years the FAA had agreed to less and less direct oversight of Boeing, and look where that ended up: Grounding of the flawed MAX 8 for a few years and now the MAX 9 debacle.There can be an effective middle ground between no oversight and what you're suggesting.
As usual with these things, it's turning out the quality control problems were an open secret for a while now.
As usual with these things, it's turning out the quality control problems were an open secret for a while now.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/13/us-s...of-boeing.html
Not saying the FAA is doing a great job of things now, but it's clear that a company like Boeing with no domestic competition in the civil aviation market (that competition ended with the McDonnell-Douglas merger) needs government oversight. The alternative is bean counters putting profit and shareholder return and C-suite bonuses over safety.
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01-10-2024, 05:03 PM
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01-10-2024, 05:39 PM
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Pretty amazing to me how an entire door section blew out at 16,000 feet and no one was sucked out or died of oxygen deficiency or from the cold.
Gives me a lot of pause about sleeping in the window seat with my head leaning on the window ever again.
Gives me a lot of pause about sleeping in the window seat with my head leaning on the window ever again.
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01-10-2024, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11⏩
Could have been a lot worse if the door blew out at 35,000 feet. Those passengers were lucky it happened at 16,000 feet.Pretty amazing to me how an entire door section blew out at 16,000 feet and no one was sucked out or died of oxygen deficiency or from the cold.
Gives me a lot of pause about sleeping in the window seat with my head leaning on the window ever again.
Gives me a lot of pause about sleeping in the window seat with my head leaning on the window ever again.
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01-10-2024, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
Very true.Could have been a lot worse if the door blew out at 35,000 feet. Those passengers were lucky it happened at 16,000 feet.
I always get a window seat because while I dislike flying, because I can look out the window and see things gives me some sort of comfort.
While I realize that the part of the plane that blew out was a door and not a window seat without a door? I have been in that exact seat many times.
Gives me shivverssssss.....
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