12-18-2003, 10:27 PM
#31
Originally posted by Dan101
Shame he is one of the smallest pro wrestlers out there then.
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Shame he is one of the smallest pro wrestlers out there then.
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12-18-2003, 10:30 PM
#32
Originally posted by ViolentG
nah, benoit wont win the rumble, my money is on kurt angle, i mean the dude hasnt been seen for a while so it wud be the perfect return, and he has won everything but the rumble. benoit shud face brock at the rumble for the title, he has like 4 weeks yet, so there is still a chance we will see brock vs lesnar. And u lot are sayin his charisma is too low, i liek that about him, liek he'll be arguing backstage with some one and they'll be comin out with all this crap and he'll just laugh along with it, then stare at them and u can see he has that 'u wait til i get you in the ring, we'll see wat u gotta say then' look in his eyes. but he does get a reaction from the crowd, i mean his matches start off exchanging holds, then he his a german suplex, then another then another, then the crowd r on their feet, then he does that throat slah taunt, the crowd go mad, he goes to the top rope, hits a headbut, then both men are down, crowd start cheerin 'BENOIT BENOIT' then then both get up then outa no where CROSSFACE!!!! and thats all she wrote, as soon as they tap the crowd go mad. no if that aint a reaction what the hell is?!
nah, benoit wont win the rumble, my money is on kurt angle, i mean the dude hasnt been seen for a while so it wud be the perfect return, and he has won everything but the rumble. benoit shud face brock at the rumble for the title, he has like 4 weeks yet, so there is still a chance we will see brock vs lesnar. And u lot are sayin his charisma is too low, i liek that about him, liek he'll be arguing backstage with some one and they'll be comin out with all this crap and he'll just laugh along with it, then stare at them and u can see he has that 'u wait til i get you in the ring, we'll see wat u gotta say then' look in his eyes. but he does get a reaction from the crowd, i mean his matches start off exchanging holds, then he his a german suplex, then another then another, then the crowd r on their feet, then he does that throat slah taunt, the crowd go mad, he goes to the top rope, hits a headbut, then both men are down, crowd start cheerin 'BENOIT BENOIT' then then both get up then outa no where CROSSFACE!!!! and thats all she wrote, as soon as they tap the crowd go mad. no if that aint a reaction what the hell is?!
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12-19-2003, 12:43 PM
#33
Originally posted by soleus
Thats the only way it can be percieved. One week he is fighting Cena for the chance to fight Brock, then he fights Brock in a good match…then the next week he is fighting with the FBI. Whats up with that? Did Benoit fart in Linda McMahons presence to be put in such a dog house?
Thats the only way it can be percieved. One week he is fighting Cena for the chance to fight Brock, then he fights Brock in a good match…then the next week he is fighting with the FBI. Whats up with that? Did Benoit fart in Linda McMahons presence to be put in such a dog house?
do I get some backup in a thread when I mention that…
12-19-2003, 12:45 PM
#34
Originally posted by soleus
I am Italian..but i prefer Paul Roma and Bruno Samartino
I am Italian..but i prefer Paul Roma and Bruno Samartino
he was great
12-19-2003, 12:48 PM
#35
Originally posted by HardGainer82
I assume by Brock vs. Lesnar, you mean Benoit vs. Lesnar, yeah? I just think that with the amount of **** Heyman was talking, it should take him more than a month to climb the mountain. BTW, I love Cena like a brother, but there's absolutely no excuse for giving him the title before Benoit…
I assume by Brock vs. Lesnar, you mean Benoit vs. Lesnar, yeah? I just think that with the amount of **** Heyman was talking, it should take him more than a month to climb the mountain. BTW, I love Cena like a brother, but there's absolutely no excuse for giving him the title before Benoit…
and would you similarly consider giving Brock the title before Benoit a mistake?
(I would btw)
12-19-2003, 02:54 PM
#36
are you kidding me benoit as champ… why not give it to little rey while we're at it?
12-19-2003, 04:37 PM
#37
Originally posted by bboyremy
are you kidding me benoit as champ… why not give it to little rey while we're at it?
are you kidding me benoit as champ… why not give it to little rey while we're at it?
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12-19-2003, 05:15 PM
#38
Originally posted by Kane Fan
Kane went from a title fued to fighting Jericho and completly ignoring the people who cost him the title
do I get some backup in a thread when I mention that…
Kane went from a title fued to fighting Jericho and completly ignoring the people who cost him the title
do I get some backup in a thread when I mention that…
THANK YOU!
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12-19-2003, 08:44 PM
#39
Originally posted by TheRock
For **** sake, this thread is about Benoit…can we have one thread where you keep the man of your dreams out of it???
THANK YOU!
For **** sake, this thread is about Benoit…can we have one thread where you keep the man of your dreams out of it???
THANK YOU!
I will say this…Benoit will be the world champ before Kane will. Having said that, neither of them will be champ EVER.
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12-19-2003, 09:06 PM
#40
Originally posted by TheRock
For **** sake, this thread is about Benoit…can we have one thread where you keep the man of your dreams out of it???
THANK YOU!
For **** sake, this thread is about Benoit…can we have one thread where you keep the man of your dreams out of it???
THANK YOU!
no you cannot
Soleus is correct
it was about Benoit
blind fool….
I think Benoit might get the title (he's on HHH free Smackdown remember)
and your already wrong tho Sol.Kane had the belt for 22 or 23 hours back in 99 or 98 or sometime or other
12-20-2003, 11:39 AM
#41
Originally posted by Kane Fan
no
no you cannot
Soleus is correct
it was about Benoit
blind fool….
I think Benoit might get the title (he's on HHH free Smackdown remember)
and your already wrong tho Sol.Kane had the belt for 22 or 23 hours back in 99 or 98 or sometime or other
no
no you cannot
Soleus is correct
it was about Benoit
blind fool….
I think Benoit might get the title (he's on HHH free Smackdown remember)
and your already wrong tho Sol.Kane had the belt for 22 or 23 hours back in 99 or 98 or sometime or other
Secondly, I think Benoit will get the belt..come on man, are you telling me that the man doesn't deserve that belt at least one time in his career?? He is one of the best in the world. The WWE will give in soon because they will realise he deserves the belt..hell, i think they realised this a long time ago BUT because of this they might just stick the title on him at any given time (Kinda like the belt is in Benoit's bank..he's just waiting to cash it) even if he doesn't have so much momentum. Like i've said earlier in the thread, they need to stick it on Guererro first..the man is off-the-hook popular at the moment and why not? He has it all!! (and you tools who think he's too short for championship material can all shut the **** up)
One of the most mark-out smackdowns for me recently is when they left all the small guys in the last 4 in the rumble for the number 1 contendership. Cena, Benoit, Guerrero and Shelton…Now these are current/future stars! Not toolbag workers like A-Train, Big Show or Bradshaw
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12-20-2003, 12:04 PM
#42
Originally posted by TheRock
First of all, eat a dick you '8500 of my posts are about me cumming in my pants over Kane' wierdo!
Secondly, I think Benoit will get the belt..come on man, are you telling me that the man doesn't deserve that belt at least one time in his career?? He is one of the best in the world. The WWE will give in soon because they will realise he deserves the belt..hell, i think they realised this a long time ago BUT because of this they might just stick the title on him at any given time (Kinda like the belt is in Benoit's bank..he's just waiting to cash it) even if he doesn't have so much momentum. Like i've said earlier in the thread, they need to stick it on Guererro first..the man is off-the-hook popular at the moment and why not? He has it all!! (and you tools who think he's too short for championship material can all shut the **** up)
One of the most mark-out smackdowns for me recently is when they left all the small guys in the last 4 in the rumble for the number 1 contendership. Cena, Benoit, Guerrero and Shelton…Now these are current/future stars! Not toolbag workers like A-Train, Big Show or Bradshaw
First of all, eat a dick you '8500 of my posts are about me cumming in my pants over Kane' wierdo!
Secondly, I think Benoit will get the belt..come on man, are you telling me that the man doesn't deserve that belt at least one time in his career?? He is one of the best in the world. The WWE will give in soon because they will realise he deserves the belt..hell, i think they realised this a long time ago BUT because of this they might just stick the title on him at any given time (Kinda like the belt is in Benoit's bank..he's just waiting to cash it) even if he doesn't have so much momentum. Like i've said earlier in the thread, they need to stick it on Guererro first..the man is off-the-hook popular at the moment and why not? He has it all!! (and you tools who think he's too short for championship material can all shut the **** up)
One of the most mark-out smackdowns for me recently is when they left all the small guys in the last 4 in the rumble for the number 1 contendership. Cena, Benoit, Guerrero and Shelton…Now these are current/future stars! Not toolbag workers like A-Train, Big Show or Bradshaw
12-20-2003, 04:44 PM
#43
OK does anyone realize that Benoit HAS been world champion before? He defeated Sid Vicious at the 2000 WCW Souled Out pay per view. The only reason the title was taken off of him is because of his jump to the WWF. Had he stayed the belt would have remained on his waist.
12-20-2003, 07:34 PM
#44
Originally posted by devl
OK does anyone realize that Benoit HAS been world champion before? He defeated Sid Vicious at the 2000 WCW Souled Out pay per view. The only reason the title was taken off of him is because of his jump to the WWF. Had he stayed the belt would have remained on his waist.
OK does anyone realize that Benoit HAS been world champion before? He defeated Sid Vicious at the 2000 WCW Souled Out pay per view. The only reason the title was taken off of him is because of his jump to the WWF. Had he stayed the belt would have remained on his waist.
and like Triple H said in a shoot/promo 'Lets face it, that place was a joke'
If ya smell…what the rock…is cookin!
12-20-2003, 07:41 PM
#45
Originally posted by bboyremy
He IS too short.
He IS too short.
You want a larger than life persona? Doesn't get much larger than Eddie Guerrero. The guy has charisma to spare. Talent? Lets not even go there…
What are yours and Dan101's theories as to why short people shouldn't be champs?
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12-20-2003, 10:42 PM
#46
Originally posted by TheRock
So what exactly are your theories on why this should even be taken into consideration when deciding a champion?
You want a larger than life persona? Doesn't get much larger than Eddie Guerrero. The guy has charisma to spare. Talent? Lets not even go there…
What are yours and Dan101's theories as to why short people shouldn't be champs?
So what exactly are your theories on why this should even be taken into consideration when deciding a champion?
You want a larger than life persona? Doesn't get much larger than Eddie Guerrero. The guy has charisma to spare. Talent? Lets not even go there…
What are yours and Dan101's theories as to why short people shouldn't be champs?
if you are of average size and you get to meet some wwe stars and the champ is one
and you are lookign down at him, I promise he lost some credability in your eyes (if you are the average fan)
so the bigger someone is the better
no one meets the Undertaker and says to themself 'man, he's way too little to be the champ'
I think Eddie is short for the WWE to but Eddie has more Talent and Charisma then Benoit has Talent and Charisma
(Benoit may just eek out Eddie on Talent but combining Talent and Charisma Eddie OWNS him)
so Eddie can make up for his somewhat lacking size whereas Benoit really dosn't
but like I said, given an involved storyline Benoit may pick up enough crowd reaction to garner a title run
it wouldn't BOTHER me if he was champ (I'd damn sure like to see Brock tap the title away to him) but it's not something I'm going to hope happens either
12-20-2003, 11:39 PM
#47
Originally posted by Kane Fan
no
no you cannot
Soleus is correct
it was about Benoit
blind fool….
I think Benoit might get the title (he's on HHH free Smackdown remember)
and your already wrong tho Sol.Kane had the belt for 22 or 23 hours back in 99 or 98 or sometime or other
no
no you cannot
Soleus is correct
it was about Benoit
blind fool….
I think Benoit might get the title (he's on HHH free Smackdown remember)
and your already wrong tho Sol.Kane had the belt for 22 or 23 hours back in 99 or 98 or sometime or other
Kane Fan is correct in that Benoit is too short. And as long as Vince continue to jerk off to the big men of the industry then the days of a 6 footer as champ are over. BUT you can never say never, not when it is the WWE.
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12-21-2003, 07:25 PM
#48
Originally posted by Kane Fan
hard to be impressed by a little guy
if you are of average size and you get to meet some wwe stars and the champ is one
and you are lookign down at him, I promise he lost some credability in your eyes (if you are the average fan)
so the bigger someone is the better
no one meets the Undertaker and says to themself 'man, he's way too little to be the champ'
This makes no sense. I made a comparison to a "real" sport like boxing where Mike Tyson stands 5'11" and weighed in at 220lbs at his peak, and I asked a question that neither Kane Fan nor Dan 101 has yet to provide a sensible reply. the question was : Did the average fan think (including people over six feet tall who would look down at Mike) they could beat Iron Mike? so Kane Fan, if you were taller than MIke are you telling me he would have lost credibility in your eyes? and if you say yes, then you certainly would prove that reality and perception are certainly separate and distinct. Oh, in the event that you say well, unlike boxing, wrestling traditionally had BIG guys as champs, I have a response. most boxing world champs were also large in excess of 6'1''. Notable exceptions being Mike and Joe frazier. now doesn't Benoit remind you of Joe Frazier with his tenacity and toughness?
hard to be impressed by a little guy
if you are of average size and you get to meet some wwe stars and the champ is one
and you are lookign down at him, I promise he lost some credability in your eyes (if you are the average fan)
so the bigger someone is the better
no one meets the Undertaker and says to themself 'man, he's way too little to be the champ'
This makes no sense. I made a comparison to a "real" sport like boxing where Mike Tyson stands 5'11" and weighed in at 220lbs at his peak, and I asked a question that neither Kane Fan nor Dan 101 has yet to provide a sensible reply. the question was : Did the average fan think (including people over six feet tall who would look down at Mike) they could beat Iron Mike? so Kane Fan, if you were taller than MIke are you telling me he would have lost credibility in your eyes? and if you say yes, then you certainly would prove that reality and perception are certainly separate and distinct. Oh, in the event that you say well, unlike boxing, wrestling traditionally had BIG guys as champs, I have a response. most boxing world champs were also large in excess of 6'1''. Notable exceptions being Mike and Joe frazier. now doesn't Benoit remind you of Joe Frazier with his tenacity and toughness?
12-21-2003, 08:24 PM
#49
Originally posted by gjoe
In case you don't know it yet, when you are the WWE Champion, you are the WWE World HEAVYWEIGHT Champion. Logically, only HEAVY wrestlers can go for it. Period.
Originally posted by Kane Fan
hard to be impressed by a little guy
if you are of average size and you get to meet some wwe stars and the champ is one
and you are lookign down at him, I promise he lost some credability in your eyes (if you are the average fan)
so the bigger someone is the better
no one meets the Undertaker and says to themself 'man, he's way too little to be the champ'
This makes no sense. I made a comparison to a "real" sport like boxing where Mike Tyson stands 5'11" and weighed in at 220lbs at his peak, and I asked a question that neither Kane Fan nor Dan 101 has yet to provide a sensible reply. the question was : Did the average fan think (including people over six feet tall who would look down at Mike) they could beat Iron Mike? so Kane Fan, if you were taller than MIke are you telling me he would have lost credibility in your eyes? and if you say yes, then you certainly would prove that reality and perception are certainly separate and distinct. Oh, in the event that you say well, unlike boxing, wrestling traditionally had BIG guys as champs, I have a response. most boxing world champs were also large in excess of 6'1''. Notable exceptions being Mike and Joe frazier. now doesn't Benoit remind you of Joe Frazier with his tenacity and toughness?
hard to be impressed by a little guy
if you are of average size and you get to meet some wwe stars and the champ is one
and you are lookign down at him, I promise he lost some credability in your eyes (if you are the average fan)
so the bigger someone is the better
no one meets the Undertaker and says to themself 'man, he's way too little to be the champ'
This makes no sense. I made a comparison to a "real" sport like boxing where Mike Tyson stands 5'11" and weighed in at 220lbs at his peak, and I asked a question that neither Kane Fan nor Dan 101 has yet to provide a sensible reply. the question was : Did the average fan think (including people over six feet tall who would look down at Mike) they could beat Iron Mike? so Kane Fan, if you were taller than MIke are you telling me he would have lost credibility in your eyes? and if you say yes, then you certainly would prove that reality and perception are certainly separate and distinct. Oh, in the event that you say well, unlike boxing, wrestling traditionally had BIG guys as champs, I have a response. most boxing world champs were also large in excess of 6'1''. Notable exceptions being Mike and Joe frazier. now doesn't Benoit remind you of Joe Frazier with his tenacity and toughness?
12-21-2003, 09:45 PM
#50
I say 220 is still pretty heavy to the average person. Maybe not to those of us in the iron game, but still…
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12-21-2003, 10:32 PM
#51
Originally posted by HardGainer82
I say 220 is still pretty heavy to the average person. Maybe not to those of us in the iron game, but still…
I say 220 is still pretty heavy to the average person. Maybe not to those of us in the iron game, but still…
12-21-2003, 10:53 PM
#52
Originally posted by gjoe
This makes no sense. I made a comparison to a "real" sport like boxing where Mike Tyson stands 5'11" and weighed in at 220lbs at his peak, and I asked a question that neither Kane Fan nor Dan 101 has yet to provide a sensible reply. the question was : Did the average fan think (including people over six feet tall who would look down at Mike) they could beat Iron Mike? so Kane Fan, if you were taller than MIke are you telling me he would have lost credibility in your eyes? and if you say yes, then you certainly would prove that reality and perception are certainly separate and distinct. Oh, in the event that you say well, unlike boxing, wrestling traditionally had BIG guys as champs, I have a response. most boxing world champs were also large in excess of 6'1''. Notable exceptions being Mike and Joe frazier. now doesn't Benoit remind you of Joe Frazier with his tenacity and toughness?
Originally posted by Kane Fan
hard to be impressed by a little guy
if you are of average size and you get to meet some wwe stars and the champ is one
and you are lookign down at him, I promise he lost some credability in your eyes (if you are the average fan)
so the bigger someone is the better
no one meets the Undertaker and says to themself 'man, he's way too little to be the champ'
hard to be impressed by a little guy
if you are of average size and you get to meet some wwe stars and the champ is one
and you are lookign down at him, I promise he lost some credability in your eyes (if you are the average fan)
so the bigger someone is the better
no one meets the Undertaker and says to themself 'man, he's way too little to be the champ'
This makes no sense. I made a comparison to a "real" sport like boxing where Mike Tyson stands 5'11" and weighed in at 220lbs at his peak, and I asked a question that neither Kane Fan nor Dan 101 has yet to provide a sensible reply. the question was : Did the average fan think (including people over six feet tall who would look down at Mike) they could beat Iron Mike? so Kane Fan, if you were taller than MIke are you telling me he would have lost credibility in your eyes? and if you say yes, then you certainly would prove that reality and perception are certainly separate and distinct. Oh, in the event that you say well, unlike boxing, wrestling traditionally had BIG guys as champs, I have a response. most boxing world champs were also large in excess of 6'1''. Notable exceptions being Mike and Joe frazier. now doesn't Benoit remind you of Joe Frazier with his tenacity and toughness?
12-21-2003, 11:54 PM
#53
Originally posted by soleus
My apologies Kane Fan…you are correct that Kane has been champ before when he beat SCSA at King of The Ring 1998 ( i have it on tape) What i should have said is that Kane will NOT be champ again and Benoit will never be WWE champ ever.
Kane Fan is correct in that Benoit is too short. And as long as Vince continue to jerk off to the big men of the industry then the days of a 6 footer as champ are over. BUT you can never say never, not when it is the WWE.
My apologies Kane Fan…you are correct that Kane has been champ before when he beat SCSA at King of The Ring 1998 ( i have it on tape) What i should have said is that Kane will NOT be champ again and Benoit will never be WWE champ ever.
Kane Fan is correct in that Benoit is too short. And as long as Vince continue to jerk off to the big men of the industry then the days of a 6 footer as champ are over. BUT you can never say never, not when it is the WWE.
and Eddie may
but if you compare Eddie to Brock talent wise
and Crowd interest wise
and then the time it takes Eddie to get a main title run (if ever) compared to Brocks
you will likely want to cry…
I know I do
12-21-2003, 11:58 PM
#54
Originally posted by gjoe
Tyso is about 3 times thicker then Benoit
also he's not in the ring with people the size of Kane or Big Show or Undertaker
similarly he dosn't have to have an aura about him because boxing is (at times at least) an actual competition where you win based off of ability not crowd reaction
I didn't bother answering your question cus I thought it was so ****ty as to be laughable
see Tyson's believablity as champion is not the issue
whereas Benoit (or other smallish wrestler) does have that problem
also in boxing there are weight classes
why?
cus no one would believe a flyweight would ko a heavyweight
(and he wouldn't)
so really your example was so pisspoor as to not need to be countered but I have doneso as per your request
Originally posted by Kane Fan
hard to be impressed by a little guy
if you are of average size and you get to meet some wwe stars and the champ is one
and you are lookign down at him, I promise he lost some credability in your eyes (if you are the average fan)
so the bigger someone is the better
no one meets the Undertaker and says to themself 'man, he's way too little to be the champ'
This makes no sense. I made a comparison to a "real" sport like boxing where Mike Tyson stands 5'11" and weighed in at 220lbs at his peak, and I asked a question that neither Kane Fan nor Dan 101 has yet to provide a sensible reply. the question was : Did the average fan think (including people over six feet tall who would look down at Mike) they could beat Iron Mike? so Kane Fan, if you were taller than MIke are you telling me he would have lost credibility in your eyes? and if you say yes, then you certainly would prove that reality and perception are certainly separate and distinct. Oh, in the event that you say well, unlike boxing, wrestling traditionally had BIG guys as champs, I have a response. most boxing world champs were also large in excess of 6'1''. Notable exceptions being Mike and Joe frazier. now doesn't Benoit remind you of Joe Frazier with his tenacity and toughness?
hard to be impressed by a little guy
if you are of average size and you get to meet some wwe stars and the champ is one
and you are lookign down at him, I promise he lost some credability in your eyes (if you are the average fan)
so the bigger someone is the better
no one meets the Undertaker and says to themself 'man, he's way too little to be the champ'
This makes no sense. I made a comparison to a "real" sport like boxing where Mike Tyson stands 5'11" and weighed in at 220lbs at his peak, and I asked a question that neither Kane Fan nor Dan 101 has yet to provide a sensible reply. the question was : Did the average fan think (including people over six feet tall who would look down at Mike) they could beat Iron Mike? so Kane Fan, if you were taller than MIke are you telling me he would have lost credibility in your eyes? and if you say yes, then you certainly would prove that reality and perception are certainly separate and distinct. Oh, in the event that you say well, unlike boxing, wrestling traditionally had BIG guys as champs, I have a response. most boxing world champs were also large in excess of 6'1''. Notable exceptions being Mike and Joe frazier. now doesn't Benoit remind you of Joe Frazier with his tenacity and toughness?
also he's not in the ring with people the size of Kane or Big Show or Undertaker
similarly he dosn't have to have an aura about him because boxing is (at times at least) an actual competition where you win based off of ability not crowd reaction
I didn't bother answering your question cus I thought it was so ****ty as to be laughable
see Tyson's believablity as champion is not the issue
whereas Benoit (or other smallish wrestler) does have that problem
also in boxing there are weight classes
why?
cus no one would believe a flyweight would ko a heavyweight
(and he wouldn't)
so really your example was so pisspoor as to not need to be countered but I have doneso as per your request
12-22-2003, 12:00 AM
#55
Originally posted by HardGainer82
I say 220 is still pretty heavy to the average person. Maybe not to those of us in the iron game, but still…
I say 220 is still pretty heavy to the average person. Maybe not to those of us in the iron game, but still…
BUT you have to remember 220 in the WWE is about 185 irl
12-22-2003, 12:01 AM
#56
Originally posted by Arsehole
This makes no sense. I made a comparison to a "real" sport like boxing where Mike Tyson stands 5'11" and weighed in at 220lbs at his peak, and I asked a question that neither Kane Fan nor Dan 101 has yet to provide a sensible reply. the question was : Did the average fan think (including people over six feet tall who would look down at Mike) they could beat Iron Mike? so Kane Fan, if you were taller than MIke are you telling me he would have lost credibility in your eyes? and if you say yes, then you certainly would prove that reality and perception are certainly separate and distinct. Oh, in the event that you say well, unlike boxing, wrestling traditionally had BIG guys as champs, I have a response. most boxing world champs were also large in excess of 6'1''. Notable exceptions being Mike and Joe frazier. now doesn't Benoit remind you of Joe Frazier with his tenacity and toughness?
This makes no sense. I made a comparison to a "real" sport like boxing where Mike Tyson stands 5'11" and weighed in at 220lbs at his peak, and I asked a question that neither Kane Fan nor Dan 101 has yet to provide a sensible reply. the question was : Did the average fan think (including people over six feet tall who would look down at Mike) they could beat Iron Mike? so Kane Fan, if you were taller than MIke are you telling me he would have lost credibility in your eyes? and if you say yes, then you certainly would prove that reality and perception are certainly separate and distinct. Oh, in the event that you say well, unlike boxing, wrestling traditionally had BIG guys as champs, I have a response. most boxing world champs were also large in excess of 6'1''. Notable exceptions being Mike and Joe frazier. now doesn't Benoit remind you of Joe Frazier with his tenacity and toughness?
if you cannot keep up with me (and it is obvious you cannot) either expand your mental capabilities or stop reading my posts
or, kiss my ass
any of the 3 are acceptable
12-22-2003, 11:15 AM
#57
KaneFan you dumbass Benoit is heavier than Tyson. Tyson also fights guys that are 6'6" Tyson does have an aura about him because people shell out millions to watch him on PPV even though he hasn't had a good fight in years! Your such a fool sometimes. If anything in the WWE 220=240 when they advertise you. Holyfield weighs 218 and fights guys that are 30-50 lbs heavier than him and wins. I also find it highly credible that Eddie or Benoit can win the heavyweight title because they are strong enough to throw guys like Lesner around. Small people can't wrestle for 15 min and still have the strength to german suplex Lesner 3 times in a row.
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12-22-2003, 03:16 PM
#58
Originally posted by Kane Fan
Tyso is about 3 times thicker then Benoit
also he's not in the ring with people the size of Kane or Big Show or Undertaker
similarly he dosn't have to have an aura about him because boxing is (at times at least) an actual competition where you win based off of ability not crowd reaction
I didn't bother answering your question cus I thought it was so ****ty as to be laughable
see Tyson's believablity as champion is not the issue
whereas Benoit (or other smallish wrestler) does have that problem
also in boxing there are weight classes
why?
cus no one would believe a flyweight would ko a heavyweight
(and he wouldn't)
so really your example was so pisspoor as to not need to be countered but I have doneso as per your request
Tyso is about 3 times thicker then Benoit
also he's not in the ring with people the size of Kane or Big Show or Undertaker
similarly he dosn't have to have an aura about him because boxing is (at times at least) an actual competition where you win based off of ability not crowd reaction
I didn't bother answering your question cus I thought it was so ****ty as to be laughable
see Tyson's believablity as champion is not the issue
whereas Benoit (or other smallish wrestler) does have that problem
also in boxing there are weight classes
why?
cus no one would believe a flyweight would ko a heavyweight
(and he wouldn't)
so really your example was so pisspoor as to not need to be countered but I have doneso as per your request
Kane Fan i am not gonna trade barbs with you. That's not really my style. Your argument however was centred on the size of the individual wrestler and losing credibility if he's smaller than the average fan. it didn't speak to "aura". to paraphrase, You claimed that "smallness" reduced credibility yet my argument was that never for a second would you or most people you know would think you could beat Mike even at Mike's "small size". i based my arguments around your very words sir.
12-22-2003, 04:47 PM
#59
Originally posted by bboyremy
In case you don't know it yet, when you are the WWE Champion, you are the WWE World HEAVYWEIGHT Champion. Logically, only HEAVY wrestlers can go for it. Period.
In case you don't know it yet, when you are the WWE Champion, you are the WWE World HEAVYWEIGHT Champion. Logically, only HEAVY wrestlers can go for it. Period.
As for the size argument it's not so much about size to most people as much as it is about aura. A wrestler needs to have the aura about them that they can kick your ass if you saw them on the street. Benoit definately has that aura about him. Unfortunately what he has in aura and in mat ability he is lacking in charisma. Doesn't matter how good you are on the mat, most american fans have been bred to believe that the guy with the collest catch phrase or the most totally awesomest shirt is the better worker and thus more worthy of a heavyweight title.
12-22-2003, 06:10 PM
#60
Originally posted by n00b13
KaneFan you dumbass Benoit is heavier than Tyson. Tyson also fights guys that are 6'6" Tyson does have an aura about him because people shell out millions to watch him on PPV even though he hasn't had a good fight in years! Your such a fool sometimes. If anything in the WWE 220=240 when they advertise you. Holyfield weighs 218 and fights guys that are 30-50 lbs heavier than him and wins. I also find it highly credible that Eddie or Benoit can win the heavyweight title because they are strong enough to throw guys like Lesner around. Small people can't wrestle for 15 min and still have the strength to german suplex Lesner 3 times in a row.
KaneFan you dumbass Benoit is heavier than Tyson. Tyson also fights guys that are 6'6" Tyson does have an aura about him because people shell out millions to watch him on PPV even though he hasn't had a good fight in years! Your such a fool sometimes. If anything in the WWE 220=240 when they advertise you. Holyfield weighs 218 and fights guys that are 30-50 lbs heavier than him and wins. I also find it highly credible that Eddie or Benoit can win the heavyweight title because they are strong enough to throw guys like Lesner around. Small people can't wrestle for 15 min and still have the strength to german suplex Lesner 3 times in a row.
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