12-16-2003, 10:07 PM
#1
Chris Benoit should be champ by now
don't hit me the crap about being too small cos bret, shawn, Y2J,randy, steamboat, kurt, backlund and flair are all 6'1 and under 240lbs and they were in my opinion the greatest world champs of all time.
Lack of charisma. maybe but Brock aint winning any personality contests either.
Can he provide an excellent match? absolutley. so you are guaranteed not to be bored. besides you could give him a manager. or write him in a feud that highlights his strengths and hides his flaws. in other words an action packed hard hitting feud. for example,he could feud with brock where each kicks the **** out of the other. much like the sullivan/benoit feud. it was exciting as hell and pure hardcore, very stiff wrestling. put the belt on him, if he fails then have him drop it. but give him a chance he couldn't possibly draw less than HHH is right now!!
Lack of charisma. maybe but Brock aint winning any personality contests either.
Can he provide an excellent match? absolutley. so you are guaranteed not to be bored. besides you could give him a manager. or write him in a feud that highlights his strengths and hides his flaws. in other words an action packed hard hitting feud. for example,he could feud with brock where each kicks the **** out of the other. much like the sullivan/benoit feud. it was exciting as hell and pure hardcore, very stiff wrestling. put the belt on him, if he fails then have him drop it. but give him a chance he couldn't possibly draw less than HHH is right now!!
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12-16-2003, 10:15 PM
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As much as i would love to see Benoit with the belt, you wont be seeing it in the next 20 yrs. He is missing something (no not a tooth!!) when compared to Y2J, Flair, and Randy Savage.
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12-17-2003, 01:59 AM
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Originally posted by soleus
As much as i would love to see Benoit with the belt, you wont be seeing it in the next 20 yrs. He is missing something (no not a tooth!!) when compared to Y2J, Flair, and Randy Savage.
As much as i would love to see Benoit with the belt, you wont be seeing it in the next 20 yrs. He is missing something (no not a tooth!!) when compared to Y2J, Flair, and Randy Savage.
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12-17-2003, 04:53 AM
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I've met Benoit and although he is in very good shape, he appears very small, due to his height. Where I was looking down on him it is very hard to be physically impressed with him.
If they are insistant on keeping the Cruiserweight title, maybe Chris should drop a few pounds and go for that?.
The World title should be for the big boys, that adds credibility to it. You dont want the general public thinking that your World Champion is nothing impressive and that they could beat them.
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If they are insistant on keeping the Cruiserweight title, maybe Chris should drop a few pounds and go for that?.
The World title should be for the big boys, that adds credibility to it. You dont want the general public thinking that your World Champion is nothing impressive and that they could beat them.
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12-17-2003, 05:17 AM
#5
Originally posted by Dan101
I've met Benoit and although he is in very good shape, he appears very small, due to his height. Where I was looking down on him it is very hard to be physically impressed with him.
If they are insistant on keeping the Cruiserweight title, maybe Chris should drop a few pounds and go for that?.
The World title should be for the big boys, that adds credibility to it. You dont want the general public thinking that your World Champion is nothing impressive and that they could beat them.
Dan101
I've met Benoit and although he is in very good shape, he appears very small, due to his height. Where I was looking down on him it is very hard to be physically impressed with him.
If they are insistant on keeping the Cruiserweight title, maybe Chris should drop a few pounds and go for that?.
The World title should be for the big boys, that adds credibility to it. You dont want the general public thinking that your World Champion is nothing impressive and that they could beat them.
Dan101
He'd twist you up like a pretzel, and make you scream "I'm your bitch."
Size does not a champion make.
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12-17-2003, 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by rottie
He'd twist you up like a pretzel, and make you scream "I'm your bitch."
Size does not a champion make.
He'd twist you up like a pretzel, and make you scream "I'm your bitch."
Size does not a champion make.
i think mcmahon shud give him a chance, let him beat brock at the rumble, then he cud defend it at wrestlemania xx against kurt angle, that match (in the words of tazz) wud be a rocket buster! especially if it was a submission match or summut
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12-17-2003, 06:45 AM
#7
Originally posted by ViolentG
i absolutly agree, benoit is one hell of a wrestler. he is definatly championship material, but i dobt he'll taste the gold any time soon coz he used to be wcw champ, and we all know vince mcmahon likes the big guys to hold the belts.
i think mcmahon shud give him a chance, let him beat brock at the rumble, then he cud defend it at wrestlemania xx against kurt angle, that match (in the words of tazz) wud be a rocket buster! especially if it was a submission match or summut
i absolutly agree, benoit is one hell of a wrestler. he is definatly championship material, but i dobt he'll taste the gold any time soon coz he used to be wcw champ, and we all know vince mcmahon likes the big guys to hold the belts.
i think mcmahon shud give him a chance, let him beat brock at the rumble, then he cud defend it at wrestlemania xx against kurt angle, that match (in the words of tazz) wud be a rocket buster! especially if it was a submission match or summut
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12-17-2003, 06:59 AM
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Originally posted by ViolentG
ibut i dobt he'll taste the gold any time soon coz he used to be wcw champ,
ibut i dobt he'll taste the gold any time soon coz he used to be wcw champ,
???
what do you mean he won't have the WWE title anytime soon due to him being a former wCw champ?
the funny thing about Benoit being wCw champion is that he is the only one ever to be undeated wCw champ. he won it on his last appearance in a wCw ring, then jump to WWE.
but i agree with you on the plan to having Beniot beat Lesnar, then have a submission match with Angel at WMXX!!
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12-17-2003, 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by Dan101
I've met Benoit and although he is in very good shape, he appears very small, due to his height. Where I was looking down on him it is very hard to be physically impressed with him.
If they are insistant on keeping the Cruiserweight title, maybe Chris should drop a few pounds and go for that?.
The World title should be for the big boys, that adds credibility to it. You dont want the general public thinking that your World Champion is nothing impressive and that they could beat them.
Dan101
I've met Benoit and although he is in very good shape, he appears very small, due to his height. Where I was looking down on him it is very hard to be physically impressed with him.
If they are insistant on keeping the Cruiserweight title, maybe Chris should drop a few pounds and go for that?.
The World title should be for the big boys, that adds credibility to it. You dont want the general public thinking that your World Champion is nothing impressive and that they could beat them.
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Hey Dan did you not see my list of small champs from the past??? weren't they too small as well by your standards? and your last statement makes no sense whatsoever. why? cos in boxing tyson is under 6' and weighed in at 220lbs in his prime. Do you DAN 101, think that the "general public" could beat him???
12-17-2003, 08:31 AM
#10
All of the guys you listed have one thing that Benoit doesnt have. Charisma. If you make yourself out to be larger than life then its possible. Benoit can wrestle damn well, but he lacks the X-factor that would make him a main eventer.
That, and the fact that Vince McMahon has an eternal hard-on for the big guys.
I think he would be champ in TNA or a jap fed, but in WWE you got to have charisma.
That, and the fact that Vince McMahon has an eternal hard-on for the big guys.
I think he would be champ in TNA or a jap fed, but in WWE you got to have charisma.
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12-17-2003, 09:01 AM
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12-17-2003, 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Dan101
The World title should be for the big boys, that adds credibility to it. You dont want the general public thinking that your World Champion is nothing impressive and that they could beat them.
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The World title should be for the big boys, that adds credibility to it. You dont want the general public thinking that your World Champion is nothing impressive and that they could beat them.
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12-17-2003, 11:42 AM
#13
Speaking of this though, I wish they'd put the belt on Eddie
He has it ALL! At the moment he is on fire..would be great putting the title on him.
..And NO, Height is not in my list of credentials for making a good champ! Because you can bet your ass that i'm gonna be a credible one when the time comes
He has it ALL! At the moment he is on fire..would be great putting the title on him.
..And NO, Height is not in my list of credentials for making a good champ! Because you can bet your ass that i'm gonna be a credible one when the time comes
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12-17-2003, 12:49 PM
#14
Originally posted by soleus
As much as i would love to see Benoit with the belt, you wont be seeing it in the next 20 yrs. He is missing something (no not a tooth!!) when compared to Y2J, Flair, and Randy Savage.
As much as i would love to see Benoit with the belt, you wont be seeing it in the next 20 yrs. He is missing something (no not a tooth!!) when compared to Y2J, Flair, and Randy Savage.
12-17-2003, 01:25 PM
#15
it's all about crowd reaction
Benoit has some but not enough to carry the belt
mayb ehe'd get more with a really invovled storyline but that should happen before, or as buildup to the title run not after
Brock is pretty crappy with charsima but he hits a funny line now and again as a heel
Benoit has some but not enough to carry the belt
mayb ehe'd get more with a really invovled storyline but that should happen before, or as buildup to the title run not after
Brock is pretty crappy with charsima but he hits a funny line now and again as a heel
12-17-2003, 03:26 PM
#16
Originally posted by HardGainer82
I don't know, it looks like they might be going to Benoit vs. Brock at Wrestlemania… *crosses fingers*
I don't know, it looks like they might be going to Benoit vs. Brock at Wrestlemania… *crosses fingers*
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12-17-2003, 07:30 PM
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I've said it once and will say it again. I like Benoit but right now it is Eddy Guerrero that needs to be pushed to the next level. He is providing great matches right now and his pop is in the Stone Cold/Rock territories. They need to strike while the iron is hot.
12-17-2003, 07:48 PM
#18
Originally posted by soleus
Why is benoit now involved in a feud with the FBI?
Why is benoit now involved in a feud with the FBI?
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12-17-2003, 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by thepussyreaper
Please, please, puntano, don't try to shine the FBI in a negative light.
Please, please, puntano, don't try to shine the FBI in a negative light.
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12-17-2003, 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by soleus
Thats the only way it can be percieved. One week he is fighting Cena for the chance to fight Brock, then he fights Brock in a good match…then the next week he is fighting with the FBI. Whats up with that? Did Benoit fart in Linda McMahons presence to be put in such a dog house?
Thats the only way it can be percieved. One week he is fighting Cena for the chance to fight Brock, then he fights Brock in a good match…then the next week he is fighting with the FBI. Whats up with that? Did Benoit fart in Linda McMahons presence to be put in such a dog house?
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12-17-2003, 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by thepussyreaper
I'm just messing around. I'm a Little Guido mark
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I'm just messing around. I'm a Little Guido mark
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12-17-2003, 08:25 PM
#22
Originally posted by devl
Little Guido=ONE OF THE MOST UNDERRATTED RING TECHNICIANS IN PRO WRESTLING!
Besides, got to support my fellow italians.
Little Guido=ONE OF THE MOST UNDERRATTED RING TECHNICIANS IN PRO WRESTLING!
Besides, got to support my fellow italians.
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12-18-2003, 02:28 AM
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Originally posted by devl
Little Guido=ONE OF THE MOST UNDERRATTED RING TECHNICIANS IN PRO WRESTLING!
Besides, got to support my fellow italians.
Little Guido=ONE OF THE MOST UNDERRATTED RING TECHNICIANS IN PRO WRESTLING!
Besides, got to support my fellow italians.
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12-18-2003, 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by soleus
Why is benoit now involved in a feud with the FBI?
Why is benoit now involved in a feud with the FBI?
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12-18-2003, 08:51 AM
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nah, benoit wont win the rumble, my money is on kurt angle, i mean the dude hasnt been seen for a while so it wud be the perfect return, and he has won everything but the rumble. benoit shud face brock at the rumble for the title, he has like 4 weeks yet, so there is still a chance we will see brock vs lesnar. And u lot are sayin his charisma is too low, i liek that about him, liek he'll be arguing backstage with some one and they'll be comin out with all this crap and he'll just laugh along with it, then stare at them and u can see he has that 'u wait til i get you in the ring, we'll see wat u gotta say then' look in his eyes. but he does get a reaction from the crowd, i mean his matches start off exchanging holds, then he his a german suplex, then another then another, then the crowd r on their feet, then he does that throat slah taunt, the crowd go mad, he goes to the top rope, hits a headbut, then both men are down, crowd start cheerin 'BENOIT BENOIT' then then both get up then outa no where CROSSFACE!!!! and thats all she wrote, as soon as they tap the crowd go mad. no if that aint a reaction what the hell is?!
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12-18-2003, 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by devl
Little Guido=ONE OF THE MOST UNDERRATTED RING TECHNICIANS IN PRO WRESTLING!
Little Guido=ONE OF THE MOST UNDERRATTED RING TECHNICIANS IN PRO WRESTLING!
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12-18-2003, 09:45 AM
#27
Originally posted by Dan101
Shame he is one of the smallest pro wrestlers out there then.
Dan101
Shame he is one of the smallest pro wrestlers out there then.
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But they arent. They are just big fat pieces of low talent ****.
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12-18-2003, 09:54 AM
#28
Originally posted by rottie
If being big meant the person was a good wrstler, then Albert and Big Slow would be good wrestlers.
But they arent. They are just big fat pieces of low talent ****.
If being big meant the person was a good wrstler, then Albert and Big Slow would be good wrestlers.
But they arent. They are just big fat pieces of low talent ****.
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12-18-2003, 09:59 AM
#29
Originally posted by Dan101
I disagree, thats just your opinion. I find the Bigshow and A-TRAIN highly entertaining.
Dan101
I disagree, thats just your opinion. I find the Bigshow and A-TRAIN highly entertaining.
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The other 99% of the audience sees good workers such as Little Guido, and Chris Benoit as good wrestlers.
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12-18-2003, 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by devl
I've said it once and will say it again. I like Benoit but right now it is Eddy Guerrero that needs to be pushed to the next level. He is providing great matches right now and his pop is in the Stone Cold/Rock territories. They need to strike while the iron is hot.
I've said it once and will say it again. I like Benoit but right now it is Eddy Guerrero that needs to be pushed to the next level. He is providing great matches right now and his pop is in the Stone Cold/Rock territories. They need to strike while the iron is hot.
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