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08-23-2013, 04:18 PM
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best LB in the NFL?
holy chit…dude was amazing to watch. seriously was in on every play…with him and big Beas our LB speed is insane. Our rookie DT's look reallllllllllly solid too..good penetration and was unstoppable. Ray Rice in the first half was only like 11 carries for 35 yards… and that includes atleast 2 10 yard runs.

Our offense is sluggish but thats not concering to me. Cam is being more conservative and hasn't been out running (obviously because it would be dumb too in preseason). Once the reg season starts up and Cam gets mobile, we'll be straight
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08-23-2013, 05:49 PM
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holy chit…dude was amazing to watch. seriously was in on every play…with him and big Beas our LB speed is insane. Our rookie DT's look reallllllllllly solid too..good penetration and was unstoppable. Ray Rice in the first half was only like 11 carries for 35 yards… and that includes atleast 2 10 yard runs.

Our offense is sluggish but thats not concering to me. Cam is being more conservative and hasn't been out running (obviously because it would be dumb too in preseason). Once the reg season starts up and Cam gets mobile, we'll be straight
I'm still pretty concerned with our O line and lack of receiving threats.
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08-23-2013, 05:57 PM
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Didn't watch but looked like the offense was brutal again.
It was awful. Dropped passes. Cam's accuracy is pitiful. O-line is the worst offender.
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08-23-2013, 06:51 PM
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I really don't think Cam is even trying right now. Looks like he's just going through the motions, just ready to get to the regular season. At least I hope so. They also aren't going to show any money plays right now either. O-line does concern me though.
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08-23-2013, 09:18 PM
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Keek is easily the best LB in football.


#2, probably Bowman, doesnt make half the game changing plays Keek does. Hes incredible. I love this dude.


And on a side note, his tackle counter is helped by the fact nobody else on the Panthers can tackle. Hes regularly cleaning up after his teamates.
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08-23-2013, 10:02 PM
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And on a side note, his tackle counter is helped by the fact nobody else on the Panthers can tackle. Hes regularly cleaning up after his teamates.
Nah, everyone on the front 7 can tackle, especially all of the linebackers. It's the secondary that has trouble making tackles.
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08-23-2013, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted By 21Classic⏩
Keek is easily the best LB in football.


#2, probably Bowman, doesnt make half the game changing plays Keek does. Hes incredible. I love this dude.


And on a side note, his tackle counter is helped by the fact nobody else on the Panthers can tackle. Hes regularly cleaning up after his teamates.
wait until this season when he actually has some help from the interior line. Carolina has had virtually zero impact from the interior line since Jenkins left. Sure a couple guys have come in and played "solid" but none will impact the defense like Star will.

I've got a really, really good feeling about the defense this year. Front 7 could be straight FILTHY.

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My biggest worry is, has been, and will continue to be Ron Rivera until proven otherwise. I think we have enough talent on both sides of the ball, at the key positions, now that our success/failure sits in the head of Rivera. That frightens me to be honest. A lot of Panther fans see that as me being negative but it's just how I feel. I've even been told I probably like to see us lose and that couldn't be further from the truth. I HOPE Rivera proves me wrong and makes me look like a complete idiot.
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08-24-2013, 04:57 AM
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The front seven could possibly protect our secondary a little. That's my hopes.

And the offense hardly even played against the Ravens. No, they didn't look sharp, but there also was no rhythm because our defense flat out destroyed the birds.

Cam has had awful preseasons every year that he's been around and it's not meant a thing so I won't be overly concerned about that.

Going to be more fun watching the D than it will the O this year, though.
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08-25-2013, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Jacket60⏩
I really don't think Cam is even trying right now. Looks like he's just going through the motions, just ready to get to the regular season. At least I hope so. They also aren't going to show any money plays right now either. O-line does concern me though.
He's not playing to his full potential, part of Cams brilliance is his ability to run the ball. Carolina has been conservative with letting him run and with good reason. Right now he's just working on pocketpassing it seems. When the games actually mean something, he will be running and our O will be fine.

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The front seven could possibly protect our secondary a little. That's my hopes.

And the offense hardly even played against the Ravens. No, they didn't look sharp, but there also was no rhythm because our defense flat out destroyed the birds.

Cam has had awful preseasons every year that he's been around and it's not meant a thing so I won't be overly concerned about that.

Going to be more fun watching the D than it will the O this year, though.
Good point with the offense hardly playing. Ravens had time of posession most of the game and we kept returning punts and scoring defensive TD's so our offense literally didn't play like a whole half lol.

Dwill is one of my fav players on the team but he really needs to prove himself. He hasn't done much in the last few seasons, since that major contract. If he doesn't produce this year I don't see him lasting with us much longer.
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08-25-2013, 10:19 AM
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08-25-2013, 11:13 AM
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He's not playing to his full potential, part of Cams brilliance is his ability to run the ball. Carolina has been conservative with letting him run and with good reason. Right now he's just working on pocketpassing it seems. When the games actually mean something, he will be running and our O will be fine.

Dwill is one of my fav players on the team but he really needs to prove himself. He hasn't done much in the last few seasons, since that major contract. If he doesn't produce this year I don't see him lasting with us much longer.
I know they're being conservative with him running the ball, I just meant he looks like he's going about 80% in all aspects of the game. I don't mind this, I was just pointing it out to people who wonder why he isn't looking like himself.

Also, Williams hasn't done that much the last two years because he got about 8 carries a game. His lack of production isn't his fault.
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08-25-2013, 12:55 PM
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Also, Williams hasn't done that much the last two years because he got about 8 carries a game. His lack of production isn't his fault.
While I agree that Cam and JStew cut into his carries, last season his YPC (4.3) was almost a yard less than previous seasons. Also hes not a receiving back and was signed to a pretty hefty contract. After some diggging it appears he restructured his contract in this offseason but I feel that from a business standpoint if he doesn't produce much they will explore other options considering he's 30 years old now, they have JStew and Tolbert and rookie Barner.
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08-25-2013, 01:08 PM
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While I agree that Cam and JStew cut into his carries, last season his YPC (4.3) was almost a yard less than previous seasons. Also hes not a receiving back and was signed to a pretty hefty contract. After some diggging it appears he restructured his contract in this offseason but I feel that from a business standpoint if he doesn't produce much they will explore other options considering he's 30 years old now, they have JStew and Tolbert and rookie Barner.
4.3YPC still put him at #20 total in the NFL. not elite by any means but still very, very respectable.

edit - want to clarify I still think his contract is ridiculous and he's way overpaid but he can still produce for us at a solid/high level.
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08-25-2013, 06:11 PM
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08-25-2013, 10:54 PM
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I've just got a feeling our defense is going to come out STRONG in the first game to make a statement vs. Seattle. Russell Wilson is a hard dude to pressure but I think our front 7 is going to get all up in dat angus.

I have rarely shown optimism with this team in recent years but from what I've seen this preseason I really think people are sleeping HARD on this D.
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08-26-2013, 08:19 AM
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I've just got a feeling our defense is going to come out STRONG in the first game to make a statement vs. Seattle. Russell Wilson is a hard dude to pressure but I think our front 7 is going to get all up in dat angus.

I have rarely shown optimism with this team in recent years but from what I've seen this preseason I really think people are sleeping HARD on this D.
Most real football minds recognize how good this defense is. Most people just see the Panthers record and assume the D is ****. Offense was good last season as well. This season really comes down to the coaches not being potatoes with a head set, in order to make the playoffs.
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08-26-2013, 08:39 AM
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08-26-2013, 11:06 AM
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the season hinges on the performance of the o-line and the coaching staff. Cam will be fine. I expect him to have a break out year. IMO a big problem with his performance last year was Chud.

Rivera, while better suited as a D coordinator, isn't as boneheaded as some make him out to be. He just needs to work on his clock management and motivational skills. The staff excels at gameplanning.
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08-26-2013, 11:49 AM
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I think the defense will be much better than last year.

Maybe I'm just really cynical but I think they'll be 8-8 or 7-9
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08-26-2013, 01:09 PM
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I think the defense will be much better than last year.

Maybe I'm just really cynical but I think they'll be 8-8 or 7-9
Right there with you.

The talent is there for a 10-6 team. The coaching brings it down a fairly significant amount.
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08-26-2013, 02:22 PM
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Right there with you.

The talent is there for a 10-6 team. The coaching brings it down a fairly significant amount.
And I am really concerned about that OL.
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08-26-2013, 07:57 PM
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Right there with you.

The talent is there for a 10-6 team. The coaching brings it down a fairly significant amount.
That and the fact that we play Atlanta, NO, TB (should be legit), and Seattle/SF for half of our games.
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And I am really concerned about that OL.
Lets be honest, were playing those good west coast teams and we have a toughhhhh division. Going 8-8 wouldn't be shameful and anything better would be amazing IMO. If the offense gets potent no telling how far we could go.

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08-26-2013, 10:19 PM
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Yeah our schedule sucks many, many dicks but as is every year one or two teams many consider good/great end up terrible. And I refuse to buy into a josh freeman lead bucs team.

Oh and I'm not worried about our receiving corps because any good quarterback can make a bad group of receivers look good. That all depends on cam who I'm obv very high on. OL does worry me, though. As does JStews injury status.

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Right there with you.

The talent is there for a 10-6 team. The coaching brings it down a fairly significant amount.
that, the front office, and the schedule. we got a freaking murders row.

compare that to the broncos schedule which should hand them at worst a bye.
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Yeah our schedule sucks many, many dicks but as is every year one or two teams many consider good/great end up terrible. And I refuse to buy into a josh freeman lead bucs team.

Oh and I'm not worried about our receiving corps because any good quarterback can make a bad group of receivers look good. That all depends on cam who I'm obv very high on. OL does worry me, though. As does JStews injury status.

Just ready for the season to start.
Lafell and hixon…………………..you have faith in those two? There is being a fan and there is being delusional.

really hope we grab 2 WRs next years draft.
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Lafell and hixon…………………..you have faith in those two? There is being a fan and there is being delusional.

really hope we grab 2 WRs next years draft.
No. I have faith in Cam, though. Good/great QB's don't need a bunch of stars(although it helps, obviously). Cam has a damn ****ing good #1 in Smitty and he's got a good safety net in Olsen. I do like LaFell though and don't understand why he gets so much heat. He contributed to tons of big time plays last season and has only improved from year 1.

I'm not delusional by any means. I know the strengths and weaknesses of this team and will call them out with no problem. My belief is and always has been that if your quarterback is good he is going to make mediocre receivers look good.
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No. I have faith in Cam, though. Good/great QB's don't need a bunch of stars(although it helps, obviously). Cam has a damn ****ing good #1 in Smitty and he's got a good safety net in Olsen. I do like LaFell though and don't understand why he gets so much heat. He contributed to tons of big time plays last season and has only improved from year 1.

I'm not delusional by any means. I know the strengths and weaknesses of this team and will call them out with no problem. My belief is and always has been that if your quarterback is good he is going to make mediocre receivers look good.
smitty is great. but tell me this when did HOFer Marvin Harrison drop off? people get old. Not planning for a world without smitty is a recipe for trouble.
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Lafell and hixon…………………..you have faith in those two? There is being a fan and there is being delusional.

really hope we grab 2 WRs next years draft.
I actually think Gettis will end up number 2, has better potential than Lafell IMO.
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