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post 1476823101 12-28-2016, 10:45 PM
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Never understood why ppl did it to begin with
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post 1476823301 12-28-2016, 10:48 PM
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If you have any issues with your elbows suicide grip reduces or eliminates it in comparison to the normal grip.
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post 1476823671 12-28-2016, 10:52 PM
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Always used suicide grip, did gymnastics for years as a kid so it is more natural to me.
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post 1476824961 12-28-2016, 11:09 PM
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Suicide grip feels better on my elbow and shoulders.

Not for max effort lifts though.



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post 1476825111 12-28-2016, 11:10 PM
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Thanks for warning me not to do something idiotic.

Super helpful.
post 1476825701 12-28-2016, 11:19 PM
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post 1476825881 12-28-2016, 11:22 PM
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Is the false grip dangerous for high-bar squats?
post 1476828221 12-28-2016, 11:55 PM
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is it bad that I use suicide grip for OHP? What if I start using straps when doing OHP's? Just seem much stronger. Wouldn't ever use it for bench though.
post 1476829311 12-29-2016, 12:07 AM
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Kai Greene incline benching 5 plates using false grip.

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post 1476831001 12-29-2016, 12:30 AM
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Is the false grip dangerous for high-bar squats?
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post 1476831981 12-29-2016, 12:49 AM
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I've been doing false grip for about a year and a half, maybe two years. It's actually more stable for me than regular.
I had to switch to regular grip for competition and def lift less.





I have my thumbs under the bar, and I've never lost control, but if I could also wrap it around mid rep if I needed to because of that
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post 1476832221 12-29-2016, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted By DassItMan⏩
is it bad that I use suicide grip for OHP? What if I start using straps when doing OHP's? Just seem much stronger. Wouldn't ever use it for bench though.
I've used suicide grip for ohp. No safety issue here. And it's easier on your wrists too it seems
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post 1476832501 12-29-2016, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted By wickedman⏩
Suicide grip is an evolutionary culling, anyone dumb enough to do it should continue.
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post 1476832731 12-29-2016, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted By carolinahbrah⏩
Is the false grip dangerous for high-bar squats?
Your last ditch safety maneuver in a squat is to dump the bar off your back and jump out of the way, so no. Also your hands don't contribute that much to actually keeping the bar on your shoulders for high bar.

On a related note, I was having some elbow issues ramping up with a smolov routine years ago and switched to suicide grip for squats and it fixed it. Been doing suicide for squats ever since with zero issues and even improved performance. Suicide grip for bench is still retarded and I would never do it though.
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post 1476832791 12-29-2016, 01:06 AM
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for anyone wondering why people use suicide grip:

not using the thumbs will engage the forearm less. And so with the same weight, the triceps/chest/front delt will be more engaged.
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post 1476832891 12-29-2016, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted By GreenWave1⏩
That is brutal. Suicide grip and no spotters or safeties. Just doesn't make any sense.
Most of the clips I've seen have spotters on both sides, but +315lbs slipping and falling in a fraction of a second, they don't have time to react before it does its damage.
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post 1476833551 12-29-2016, 01:30 AM
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Not gonna watch the video.

Not sure what suicide grip is.

I have no idea what most of you are even talking about.
post 1476834011 12-29-2016, 01:39 AM
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never use that grip when im doing heavier bench

but if im warming up with a 25 a side or what not i use that grip sometimes, feels nice for some reason
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post 1476834311 12-29-2016, 01:46 AM
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i always thought suicide grip on the bench was a reverse grip?

this is just thumbless - i do it all the time on a lot of exercises, probably do it on bench too sometimes.
post 1476836871 12-29-2016, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted By poland144⏩
IF you really wanted to use suicide grip, could you use straps to make it safe? The bar won't roll cause of the straps (assuming you keep your fingers over the strap) and you still get the benefit of the suicide grip?

I use suicide grip for all my OHP press sets and used to use it all the time for bench press. Normal grip for OHP just feels extremely unnatural and a lot weaker. But after seeing the result I think its probably not a good idea. That weight drops faster than your reaction time and you'd be paralyzed doing OHP
Pretty sure straps would only keep the bar from rolling backwards towards your head, which it wouldn't anyways since your fingers are around it. Don't see how they would keep it from rolling forwards, which is how things go wrong with suicide grip.
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Originally Posted By Unyq⏩
for anyone wondering why people use suicide grip:

not using the thumbs will engage the forearm less. And so with the same weight, the triceps/chest/front delt will be more engaged.
Considering that the forearms play no role in actually propelling the weight upward, I don't see how that would be the case boyo. Not saying a suicide grip wouldn't change muscle activation patterns or whatever a little (would prob be negligible and only make a difference at lower loads if anything, would be my guess), but I don't see how it would engage the tris/chest/front delt more, like you said.
post 1476838011 12-29-2016, 03:29 AM
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Switched to suicide grip when I had tendinitis in my wrist and it took the pressure off of them. Always thought to myself how this grip was bad and that I was confident whenever I held the bar that it wouldn't slip out...Now this video is giving me second thoughts
post 1476841191 12-29-2016, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted By akupooks⏩
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Yeah, there is the whole "no article until the family is all informed..."
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post 1476842191 12-29-2016, 05:14 AM
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This is a good post, you should never use a suicide grip whether it's bench, or fapping, because lets face it, you can't fap with a false grip and also if you use a false grip and the bar rolls, you will be injured.
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damn brahs, I use this sometimes and I never knew why I used it -- feels more comfortable on close grip bench but will deff never use again

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I'll agree it's dangerous, but it's the only grip I ever used (20+ years). Maxed at 315x2 and when I rode the bike, 420.
Wrapping my thumb around the bar is uncomfortable for me, and always felt unnatural.
Quit lifting quite awhile ago though, so don't have to worry about it.
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I rarely bb bench coz of shoulder issues, but if i do I only suicide grip coz it feels better.

Thanks for the warning OP, however I will carry on.

(also to the analogies of drink driving- plenty of people die crossing a road every day, should we stop crossing roads?)
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Never use it, as I had read how dangerous it could be a few years ago. Surprised at how many people still do it. Thanks for the reminder op, you might have saved a life someday with this thread.
Originally Posted By jonnicola⏩
I rarely bb bench coz of shoulder issues, but if i do I only suicide grip coz it feels better.

Thanks for the warning OP, however I will carry on.

(also to the analogies of drink driving- plenty of people die crossing a road every day, should we stop crossing roads?)
Stop crossing roads? people have died from food poisoning, should people stop eating? herpderp
Driving itself kills people every day. Drunk driving was a good analogy, I dont see how you fail to understand it.
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Originally Posted By veggie530⏩
Keyword. Horrible death
cant imagine that, one minute before he was sitting on the bench perfectly fine and a minute later had to have known he was about to die. just chilling.

no spotter could have caught 315 in mid air in a half a second. never use that grip outside of a power rack.

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