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Thread: Why is alcohol legit and not banned ??? Srs worst drug ever

post 1479145421 01-15-2017, 09:07 AM
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There are so many things that cause health problems that are still legal and there are many that are not. Sometimes it makes you scratch your head and wonder why?
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Originally Posted By Vayne⏩
There are so many things that cause health problems that are still legal and there are many that are not. Sometimes it makes you scratch your head and wonder why?
Including hormones put in our food that cause cancer. Ban those too and make everyone shop at Whole Foods.
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Originally Posted By MiamiLife305⏩
Keep that in mind when someone high off some crazy drug kills a family member driving
People are always going to get a hold of drugs, keeping it illegal only redistributes the money to the black market and generates more crime.
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
Ok so use your own definition and compare giving a teenager alcohol vs Verced.
Mess around with alcohol, due stupid things, get sick, maybe overdose.
Mess around with verced, die instantly
You're arguing small-mindedness on the definition of a 'drug' while intertwining literal translations of what a 'danger' is. Looking past the immediate danger you're arguing--like instant death (and youcandie 'messing around' with alcohol)--you're missing some key points to my argument.

For example, there is not one drug that can rival the amount of damage to so many different areas of the body that alcohol can, period.

Research the effects of prolonged alcohol use on the body--make note of every system and organ it touches. You'll want to argue, 'not immediate, for chronic abusers only'.... but research has shown these same effects on moderate-to-heavy users of alcohol as well.

Outside of benzodiazepines, no other drug can cause chemical dependency in such a manner that it cankillyou from withdrawal. Not *******, not heroin, not MDMA only alcohol and Benzos.

The physical tolls alone make it dangerous, but when you add in the potential for life-ending-changing-ruining of yourself and innocent people around you, it's even more so. What makes itthemost dangerous, however, is that despite all of this, it's legal to consume.

The definition of a drug is binary, arguing 'danger' isn't.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
No drug expands your mind.

What does is reading, sitting around thinking, and doing it all over again for many years.

Idiots want a shortcut, get intoxicated, out of their mind, and think something awesome happens. It doesn't and that's just nonsense. Expanding your mind comes from hard work, like everything really good, and that is it.
I agree with you. I have lots of experience. Unless we can get some NZT.
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Originally Posted By WellHungOver⏩
I agree with you. I have lots of experience. Unless we can get some NZT.
NZT = adhd meds

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I am all for it staying legal but I believe many illegal drugs should be legalized. You can literally die from alcohol withdrawal. As you get older you see how many alcoholics there are out there as well(functioning and not). It blows your mind.

It is so ingrained in our culture as well. If you tell someone you aren't drinking they will pester you with questions. If I told someone I quit smoking they would just say "good job"
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Originally Posted By MiamiLife305⏩
Keep that in mind when someone high off some crazy drug kills a family member driving
it happens all the time driving under the influence is illegal bro
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
Including hormones put in our food that cause cancer. Ban those too and make everyone shop at Whole Foods.
actually if everyone spent up for a while and bought hormone free grass fed free range and stopped shopping at cheap places for food the price of good foods would go down dramatically

its gonna take a while for Monsanto to stop controlling our food intake
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Originally Posted By LMAOatYou⏩
I am all for it staying legal but I believe many illegal drugs should be legalized. You can literally die from alcohol withdrawal. As you get older you see how many alcoholics there are out there as well(functioning and not). It blows your mind.

It is so ingrained in our culture as well. If you tell someone you aren't drinking they will pester you with questions. If I told someone I quit smoking they would just say "good job"
yep after I quit drinking I cut off almost all my old friends its amazing how many people will not understand ur disease and say just have a shot or call u a pussy for not drinking
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Originally Posted By boredFA⏩
Why is alcohol legit and not banned ??? Srs worst drug ever
Ever see these tards try to cope in a social situation without it?

Yeah, its here to stay.
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Originally Posted By buckeyenutz⏩
You're both missing the point -- it's a literal statement based on facts. Argue the what-if's all you'd like, it doesn't change the facts.
Lol you going full retard here brah..


Most Dangerous =/= Deadliest

Using raw deadliest numbers has no normalization factor.
Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
Are you trolling or are you just retarded with numbers?

The fact is there are more incidents where people get hurt by dogs vs lions.
Based on this are you saying dogs are more dangerous than lions?
Exactly this.
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Originally Posted By ThaJerzeyDevil⏩
yep after I quit drinking I cut off almost all my old friends its amazing how many people will not understand ur disease and say just have a shot or call u a pussy for not drinking
yeah I am in the process of building a new social circle with sober people or at least those who do not only go out and drink every weekend. It makes it a lot harder but can't be around people who expect me to drink all the time.
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Originally Posted By LMAOatYou⏩
yeah I am in the process of building a new social circle with sober people or at least those who do not only go out and drink every weekend. It makes it a lot harder but can't be around people who expect me to drink all the time.
I'm in Delaware right now and during the winter its all people do here so its rough I'm moving back to florida really soon and I cant wait so many things to do down there that do not require drinking
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
Including hormones put in our food that cause cancer. Ban those too and make everyone shop at Whole Foods.
Just go vegan, you vote on industries to stay alive through the products you buy.
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
Swimming is more dangerous than swallowing thumbtacks. More people die from the former.
the fact that threads get derailed for dumb stuff like this is retarded
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Originally Posted By ThaJerzeyDevil⏩
the fact that threads get derailed for dumb stuff like this is retarded
You take a shot like this @ the king of the misc again I swear on my mums.
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I don't drink. I'm not even straight edge. Alcohol is just pure poison.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
You have no answer.

Trust me, I'm all about my mind and if there was a drug to expand it I'd take it. I'd take gear for muscle development because I know it works. There is nothing that improves your mind because your mind is your collection of thoughts. The only way you can improve that is through work.
Not true. Lsd allows the user's brain to make connections with other parts of the brain that normally don't happen unless you're taking lsd. People are more creative and introspective. They have done MRI scans of "users" brains while on it and found some very interesting stuff.

Anyways lsd , dmt, weed, and mushrooms are all non-addictive.

Lsd is literally the safes drug out there. The LD50 of lsd hasn't even been found for humans yet and you can't smoke enough joints to OD on thc.





Alcohol on the other hand destroys people's lives and I haven't seen a single good thing come from people drinking alcohol. When's the last time you heard of a mind blowing invention being created when someone was drunk? I'd probably guess never.



The only thing that destroys people's lives on "hippie drugs" is that the cops will lock you up.....Ya know, so you won't destroy your life lol
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Instead of wondering why it's not banned, learn to control yourself.

It's unnecessary to take alcohol away from people who enjoy it just because there are some brads in the world.
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Originally Posted By Girlgoneweird⏩
Not true. Lsd allows the user's brain to make connections with other parts of the brain that normally don't happen unless you're taking lsd. People are more creative and introspective. They have done MRI scans of "users" brains while on it and found some very interesting stuff.

Anyways lsd , dmt, weed, and mushrooms are all non-addictive.

Lsd is literally the safes drug out there. The LD50 of lsd hasn't even been found for humans yet and you can't smoke enough joints to OD on thc.





Alcohol on the other hand destroys people's lives and I haven't seen a single good thing come from people drinking alcohol. When's the last time you heard of a mind blowing invention being created when someone was drunk? I'd probably guess never.



The only thing that destroys people's lives on "hippie drugs" is that the cops will lock you up.....Ya know, so you won't destroy your life lol
Yea like your brain on lsd is that of an infants. You know, that stage where you know jack chit.

Sounds like the antithesis of knowledge and "expanding your mind"

How people just go fuking with the electrical connections in their brain and then think theyre some savant is beyond me. Annoying too
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more govt. intervention?

- Idk op, but did they try to ban alcohol once upon a time, or was that just in that Leo movie...hmmmm?
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Originally Posted By WrathOfPecan⏩
Actually, I think drugs tend to break down filters that are in place. Some good, some restricting, but most of these filters are in place to protect us from psychosis.

When I was in college, I briefly had a roommate for 3 week that at that same time suddenly got into all sorts of hallucinogens and taking ex. Virtually overnight, he went from nothing to doing chit 5-6 times a week, srs.

I moved to another place when I realized how toxic it was being around him. Ran into him a few times for a few months, could see he was doing the same stuff.

Then for a year I didn't run into him at all, and all of a sudden saw him on campus again (25k students). He looked like something was gnawing on him.

The first thing that popped into my head when I saw his eyes was "holy chit, this guy is HAUNTED." To my perception, it seemed like he'd carelessly opened the wrong doors on his psyche too many times, to the point that the doors didn't really close any more, and now all sorts of supernatural negative chit could get into his head and emotional space at will.

I believe we normally have various mental and emotional filters/doors/boundaries that keep us from being too affected by negative chit going on around us. Spend too much time in the wrong place, or be too careless around the wrong sorts of people and it can bring us down.
Damn that's so true. A lot of people believe psychedelics are to be used just a handful of times. Get what you need out of them (answers or whatever) then stop.
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Originally Posted By krazy33⏩
Yea like your brain on lsd is that of an infants. You know, that stage where you know jack chit.

Sounds like the antithesis of knowledge and "expanding your mind"

How people just go fuking with the electrical connections in their brain and then think theyre some savant is beyond me. Annoying too
Like a poster above already said -its almost like it removes the filters of your mind. Sometimes people can't see the forest through the trees .Gotta have those barriers removed.
The positive changes from taking mushrooms (especially for depression) have been shown to be long-lasting.

I just did a paper on this so Its fresh in my mind but in one study published in the lancet psychiatry journal ALL of the participants severe depression was gone for at least 2 weeks after taking a moderate dose of psilocybin and still some at 3 months...

Now tell me what antidepressant can do that? None.

There is always a political reason why stuff is illegal. Most drugs are illegal solely bc of political reasons...not safety issues.
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Originally Posted By Girlgoneweird⏩
Like a poster above already said -its almost like it removes the filters of your mind. Sometimes people can't see the forest through the trees .Gotta have those barriers removed.
The positive changes from taking mushrooms (especially for depression) have been shown to be long-lasting.

I just did a paper on this so Its fresh in my mind but in one study published in the lancet psychiatry journal ALL of the participants severe depression was gone for at least 2 weeks after taking a moderate dose of psilocybin and still some at 3 months...

Now tell me what antidepressant can do that? None.

There is always a political reason why stuff is illegal. Most drugs are illegal solely bc of political reasons...not safety issues.
ie steroids there are no reasons for them to be illegal health wise ive seen people do some crazy stuff dose wise and they didn't die

everything in moderation is the key
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Originally Posted By Girlgoneweird⏩
Like a poster above already said -its almost like it removes the filters of your mind. Sometimes people can't see the forest through the trees .Gotta have those barriers removed.
The positive changes from taking mushrooms (especially for depression) have been shown to be long-lasting.

I just did a paper on this so Its fresh in my mind but in one study published in the lancet psychiatry journal ALL of the participants severe depression was gone for at least 2 weeks after taking a moderate dose of psilocybin and still some at 3 months...

Now tell me what antidepressant can do that? None.

There is always a political reason why stuff is illegal. Most drugs are illegal solely bc of political reasons...not safety issues.
Yea i just dont get it.

No idea how ifantilizing people is "positive"

As far as in concerned when people age theyre journeying through life getting as far away as they can from that infantile stage where infants are putting their hands on stoves to realize theyre hot. Life is the opposite, vying for individiation with the ability to synthesize and deduce information down to a level they can interpet themselves and then turn around and convey it through whatever medium they wish.

Why would knowledge - the opposite of what youre promoting - and using the standard definition of knowing the way things work - not diffuse just as much stress? As far im concerned, most people get anxious when they DONT understand whats going on

What the fuk happens when they have jobs and theyve reset their brain back to a child's?

I guess if people really want to kill themselves and feel like theyre "reborn" but i think there are solutions that dont tske you back a few years

Knowing the brain has plasticity is enough to overcome most problems, though a lot of people will want to take the easy way out
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Originally Posted By Buckyx⏩
well its really weird. 2 weeks ago I drank 5 days straight from morning till early morning lol and I wasnt even sick or something. yesterday I drank again and I felt sick after 5 shots of vodka. few more shots and I even dance whole night. I woke up fuked up
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Originally Posted By Enzant⏩
Because Jesus turned water into wine. Legit answer.
This.

But marijuana should be legal, too. It's legal now in my state. We spend a fortune putting people behind bars for weed, and it's so ridiculous.
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