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02-08-2018, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩
Good for you.Lmfao, so glad I don’t have this mindset. There’s way more than enough other people popping out shtty offspring and clogging up the roads during rush hour. Glad I’m not so unimaginative that I can’t enjoy life with having some financial vampires.
I want to have a kid.
Suck a dik.
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1⏩
+1.That isn't how tax brackets work, unless I've been woefully misinformed my whole life....
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02-08-2018, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩
One day you'll get tired of collecting sneakers and you're gonna knock up your old lady. You'll seeLmfao, so glad I don’t have this mindset. There’s way more than enough other people popping out shtty offspring and clogging up the roads during rush hour. Glad I’m not so unimaginative that I can’t enjoy life with having some financial vampires.
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Originally Posted By imzebra⏩
Already did along with a dozen or so other finance/self help books.read rich dad, poor dad.... srs
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02-08-2018, 10:54 AM
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My socialogy professor in my lower division GE classes told me something that stuck with me.
"It's never a good time to have a kid"
What she meant is you can spend your entire life putting it off for various reasons. I told myself I wanted to have my first before 30. I could easily do plenty of things before I have a kid but that quote sticks with me.
On the other hand I'm in the 28% tax bracket and my gf will be in the 33% when she finishes her phd (job lined up through practicum already).
Strong family support also helps
"It's never a good time to have a kid"
What she meant is you can spend your entire life putting it off for various reasons. I told myself I wanted to have my first before 30. I could easily do plenty of things before I have a kid but that quote sticks with me.
On the other hand I'm in the 28% tax bracket and my gf will be in the 33% when she finishes her phd (job lined up through practicum already).
Strong family support also helps
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02-08-2018, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
-Sociology professorMy socialogy professor in my lower division GE classes told me something that stuck with me.
"It's never a good time to have a kid"
What she meant is you can spend your entire life putting it off for various reasons. I told myself I wanted to have my first before 30. I could easily do plenty of things before I have a kid but that quote sticks with me.
"It's never a good time to have a kid"
What she meant is you can spend your entire life putting it off for various reasons. I told myself I wanted to have my first before 30. I could easily do plenty of things before I have a kid but that quote sticks with me.
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩
Lmfao, so glad I don’t have this mindset. There’s way more than enough other people popping out shtty offspring and clogging up the roads during rush hour. Glad I’m not so unimaginative that I can’t enjoy life with having some financial vampires.
Get the fuk out of here. The only thing you named that is nonessential is tv. This is the 90s boyo, is consider using your brain in future posts. Thanks.
Get the fuk out of here. The only thing you named that is nonessential is tv. This is the 90s boyo, is consider using your brain in future posts. Thanks.

Probably best to not pass on those manlet genes anyway, so good on you for removing your DNA from existence.
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Originally Posted By Aesthetical⏩
Then just have a kid and find a way. Worse comes to worse then have you wife quite her job and rely on social services. Plenty of poor people do that chit and they seem to have a number of kids.Good for you.
I want to have a kid.
I want to have a kid.
wait wut
02-08-2018, 11:01 AM
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we spent 25 large on daycare last year, 2 kids.


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[QUOTE=FriendOfFrank post_id=1543195381]One day you'll get tired of collecting sneakers and you're gonna knock up your old lady. You'll see[/QUOTE]Nah would rather travel every month, eat nice dinners daily, and enjoy an all around high quality of living. F those little financial vampires
[QUOTE=Aesthetical post_id=1543195221]Good for you.
I want to have a kid.
Suck a dik.[/QUOTE]And that’s fine. But to feel like it’s your life purpose is a poverty mindset. Just lol
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Probably best to not pass on those manlet genes anyway, so good on you for removing your DNA from existence.
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[QUOTE=Aesthetical post_id=1543195221]Good for you.
I want to have a kid.
Suck a dik.[/QUOTE]And that’s fine. But to feel like it’s your life purpose is a poverty mindset. Just lol
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Probably best to not pass on those manlet genes anyway, so good on you for removing your DNA from existence.
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩
If you can't afford to do all that while having a couple kids, you too are in the poverty crew. Just sayinNah would rather travel every month, eat nice dinners daily, and enjoy an all around high quality of living. F those little financial vampires
And that’s fine. But to feel like it’s your life purpose is a poverty mindset. Just lol
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And that’s fine. But to feel like it’s your life purpose is a poverty mindset. Just lol
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Originally Posted By FriendOfFrank⏩
RektIf you can't afford to do all that while having a couple kids, you too are in the poverty crew. Just sayin
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Originally Posted By FriendOfFrank⏩
180k+ per year crew. Literally zero desire to divert fun coupons towards further overpopulating our planet. Not to mention money is only one factor, but the time as well. Brb can’t do as you please at any time because there’s a little human busy shtting on everything you love that needs attention 24/7. Seems appealing.If you can't afford to do all that while having a couple kids, you too are in the poverty crew. Just sayin
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩
you way smarter than me. my wife keeps trickin me into busting raw. i have to drink busch light now, which will likely only exacerbate the busting raw issue.180k+ per year crew. Literally zero desire to divert fun coupons towards further overpopulating our planet. It to mention money is only one factor, but the time as well. Brb can’t do as you please at any time because there’s a little human busy shtting on everything you love that needs attention 24/7. Seems appealing.
i remember reading somewhere that a kid costs on average 250 large before college, and i thought no fkn way. my 3 year old has easily racked up 30 large already.
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Originally Posted By RudeKong⏩
point is, i can afford it, so no need to move. but comparing now to the 50's is a moot point. this is y people aren't crazy about baby boomers and their complaining.One solution then is to move somewhere cheaper to live then. 500k where I'm at will buy you 6 bed 5 bath on a half acre at least.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
I wish you the best of luck brother!you way smarter than me. my wife keeps trickin me into busting raw. i have to drink busch light now, which will likely only exacerbate the busting raw issue.
i remember reading somewhere that a kid costs on average 250 large before college, and i thought no fkn way. my 3 year old has easily racked up 30 large already.
i remember reading somewhere that a kid costs on average 250 large before college, and i thought no fkn way. my 3 year old has easily racked up 30 large already.
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02-08-2018, 11:19 AM
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Considering her salary is public and she makes 6 figures, she's more qualified than most.-Sociology professor
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02-08-2018, 11:24 AM
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Here OP I got some tips on affording kids:
1. Quit your job, then get diagnosed with some type of mental issue that prevents you from working.
2. Live on gov benefits. Disability/Free food/reduced cost utilities/reduced cost rent/cash on a card every month for doing nothing.
3. File your taxes every Feb 1 get 5k per kid around the 10th of Feb and blow it on some stupid sh*t so you are dead broke before april.
4. Whine about being broke all year despite having no bills/expenses and getting free money.
1. Quit your job, then get diagnosed with some type of mental issue that prevents you from working.
2. Live on gov benefits. Disability/Free food/reduced cost utilities/reduced cost rent/cash on a card every month for doing nothing.
3. File your taxes every Feb 1 get 5k per kid around the 10th of Feb and blow it on some stupid sh*t so you are dead broke before april.
4. Whine about being broke all year despite having no bills/expenses and getting free money.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Da fuq? You including daycare write offs?They're not wrong. Depending on where you live you can get as much as $5k from the government per child.
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Holy chit please do not tell me you're an accountant.....Thats not a surefire solution to his problem. If he makes more money then he'll be placed in a higher tax bracket and could potentially get taxed at an amount that would place his income LOWER than where he's currently at.
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩
Someone sounds like they have mommy/daddy issues. Also strong fatceps and cat avi...I guarantee you blow more money on that purring chitbox than you would a kid.180k+ per year crew. Literally zero desire to divert fun coupons towards further overpopulating our planet. Not to mention money is only one factor, but the time as well. Brb can’t do as you please at any time because there’s a little human busy shtting on everything you love that needs attention 24/7. Seems appealing.
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Originally Posted By meenman83⏩
Money better spent. Stay madSomeone sounds like they have mommy/daddy issues. Also strong fatceps and cat avi...I guarantee you blow more money on that purring chitbox than you would a kid.

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No doubt it's expensive and you'd have to make sacrifices. It might be worth it to have someone stay home for a couple of years, or maybe a grandparent would be willing to help to reduce daycare costs. I feel it's best to reduce expenses and look for non-taxable value--home economics. Making more money helps but 1/4 or more is lost to taxes.
Whatever you do, planning and preparation helps tremendously
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02-08-2018, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Aesthetical⏩
Do you have savings, can you afford to live on one wage for 6 months to a yearMiddle class
Wife and I both work
25% Tax bracket
Cant afford a house
Would have to settle for condo with HOA's forever
Trying to make sure we can afford a kid before we have one.
Either would have to pay for child care which would pretty much neutralize my wifes paychecks.
Or keep her home and try to manage on my higher income.
Even then, the cost of a kid is like $12-15k/year, who the fuk has that lying around when the middle class is getting @ssfuked by taxes and health insurance.
The math doesn't work, especially when you are supposed to save for retirement, put away money for college, and also try to save.
Does not compute.
Wife and I both work
25% Tax bracket
Cant afford a house
Would have to settle for condo with HOA's forever
Trying to make sure we can afford a kid before we have one.
Either would have to pay for child care which would pretty much neutralize my wifes paychecks.
Or keep her home and try to manage on my higher income.
Even then, the cost of a kid is like $12-15k/year, who the fuk has that lying around when the middle class is getting @ssfuked by taxes and health insurance.
The math doesn't work, especially when you are supposed to save for retirement, put away money for college, and also try to save.
Does not compute.
Newborns aren’t that expensive ...they don’t need much ..breastfeed, hand me down clothes, 2nd hand buggy
You can do childcare to earn some more
It’s just about budgeting for a few years until the youngest is in school
If you panic about everything you will make no changes
Sometimes you just jump and it works out
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Originally Posted By FriendOfFrank⏩
If you can't afford to do all that while having a couple kids, you too are in the poverty crew. Just sayin
Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩
LolMoney better spent. Stay mad

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Originally Posted By meenman83⏩
I don't think its by choice that hes choosing to not have a kidjust laughing at your sad existence
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Hey OP, not sure where you live. Could you please elaborate on the area and the cost of an entry level 3 bedroom home there?
Honestly, if you're in the 25% bracket, you guys should be fine. A LOT of the entertainment expenses are cut when the kid is young. You're not going to be going out to fancy dinners, running up bar tabs, movies, ect like you probably do now. Beyond that, most of the big-ticket stuff you need initially will come from family (hopefully) and from friends at the baby shower. We're about to have our first and we have the entire nursery prepared without having purchased a thing ourselves yet. That just leaves the cost of food, diapers, and health insurance as the big things.
Do you guys have any friends with simliar aged kids? Splitting a nanny with a friend, or swapping days of babysitting can help offset the cost of child care.
Honestly, if you're in the 25% bracket, you guys should be fine. A LOT of the entertainment expenses are cut when the kid is young. You're not going to be going out to fancy dinners, running up bar tabs, movies, ect like you probably do now. Beyond that, most of the big-ticket stuff you need initially will come from family (hopefully) and from friends at the baby shower. We're about to have our first and we have the entire nursery prepared without having purchased a thing ourselves yet. That just leaves the cost of food, diapers, and health insurance as the big things.
Do you guys have any friends with simliar aged kids? Splitting a nanny with a friend, or swapping days of babysitting can help offset the cost of child care.
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Move to Canada and get on dat baby bonus time. My brother and his wife are considered "middle class" and have two children. Gov sends $1200 a month for their baby bonus. They get that until the kids turn 18. Pays for their mortgage + utilities. Wut.
(and no, its not welfare, everyone is entitled to baby bonus, how much you get depends on your income. Lower income=higher baby bonus. Gov supplements lower incomes for those with children)
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