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post 1618797201 10-08-2020, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
Do you know who made those models? Are they also the usual suspects? Pillaging and conquering could be an integral part of higher consciousness. It seems like wordy psychobabble trickery to get me to deny my instincts and get me back in the longhouse and under the thumb of these fat old women.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_Dynamics

Is that what you think the highest aspiration of man ought to be, to be driven by their instincts?

I think you need to listen to more Fascists. ;-)

Being beholden to instincts will not make you an ubermensch.
Caesar is a strange example. He pillaged more and sold more people into slavery than almost any man ever. 1 million Gauls killed and 1 million slaves I think is the estimate.
No it's not, based on the model I just presented.

The Barbarian is Red.

Cesar is Blue.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩









Although... It seems that White Western men's beauty standards may actually fluctuate more than any other group of men's, for some reason...





That 1930s pic is misleading loook at Katherine Hepburn or Greta Garbo neither was anywhere close to that size.

The heroin-chic waif look from the 1990s was also pretty limited to the fashion industry. Pamela Anderson is basically the prototypical 90s queen and she doesn't fit that look well. Even among topmodels more normal looking women like Heidi Klum, Cindy Crawford and Naomi Campbell stole the shows from waifs like Cindy Crawford.
Also looking at porn from the 1970s to 1990s thicker women were certainely rather common.

Also even HTC guys nowadays will still admire the beauty of Audrey Hepburn even though she was skinny to the point of unhealthiness and struggled because of it.

While beauty standards certainely influence men I would say, they only do do negatively. They cannot train someone to like something he doesn't have in him. They can however create taboos, which might block people from finding out their true preferences and to open up to certain looks because they deem that weird. Or present certain traits in a way people will notice them more.
While I hadn't discovered the beauty of HTC women in the 90s, I certainely admired thicker bootys on a lean frame and remember vividly enjoying Sabrina the Teenage Witch as a Teen mostly because of her booty. So in some ways the arrival of more HTC women on TV didn't really change me, but made me realize: "Wow, that can be hot." In my early teens I wouldn't look at women past a certain size and never notice that.
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Originally Posted By TkHomie⏩
Caring this much about someone’s body preference on the misc is very LTC energy.
he's becoming how alleeboy was with manlets. then alleeboy got outed as a manlet.

bet anything opee faps to my 600lb life


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Originally Posted By richstrong⏩
i would like to commend you on your in depth analysis of ltc and htc.
Let me offer an equally in depth, opposing view as a retort.







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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
I'm talking about sex, not conversation or modern relationships. You can't really accurately draw a line based on age because it depends on individual physiology, when you look at them you just know. You think a warband raiding a village is going to stop and ask how old? No, they just took the ones who were prime.
People change with the times. Sure raiders back in the dark ages did that chit but we are so far removed from them you can't base it on that. Here is my family tree from my dad's side, they had money so it's really easy to trace. I'm the eldest son of the eldest son of the eldest son so from this you can also tell when they started having kids

GG granddad and GG grandmother

1839-1924 vs 1862-1940

G granddad and G grandmother

1890-1971 vs 1901-1971

grandad and grandmother

1925-2004 vs 1932-1993

Dad and Mom

Feb 1956- vs Nov 1956-

Me and my wife

1984- vs 1988-

My son

2018-


From this you can see that even when there was a big age gap the women weren't having kids until their mid 20s and that was before birth control and condoms so the women weren't having sex before marriage. In the upper classes 30 y/o guys weren't snatching up 15 y/o girls to marry. My mom's side didn't have money and they all got married and started having kids really young except for my mother who was the exception
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_Dynamics

Is that what you think the highest aspiration of man ought to be, to be driven by their instincts?

I think you need to listen to more Fascists. ;-)

Being beholden to instincts will not make you an ubermensch.
Chit man I'd have to put in way more thought to answer that than I'm currently prepared to do.

I dismiss your model out of hand as baseless psychological wankery. Especially if Caesar is only blue and you can't explain why killing a man and taking his daughter cannot be part of 'cosmic spirituality'.

It could do if your biology is sound.
Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
he's becoming how alleeboy was with manlets. then alleeboy got outed as a manlet.

bet anything opee faps to my 600lb life
Lol it's only been 2 threads mane, but there is a kernel of truth here. I wouldn't have these insights if it weren't a part of my own psyche. I fapped to plenty of ultra-busty milfs back in the day.
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
Chit man I'd have to put in way more thought to answer that than I'm currently prepared to do.

I dismiss your model out of hand as baseless psychological wankery. Especially if Caesar is only blue and you can't explain why killing a man and taking his daughter cannot be part of 'cosmic spirituality'.

It could do if your biology is sound.



Lol it's only been 2 threads mane, but there is a kernel of truth here. I wouldn't have these insights if it weren't a part of my own psyche. I fapped to plenty of ultra-busty milfs back in the day.
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I understand the idea, however incomplete. I think more of socially and genetically desirable women, now, than in the past after seeing the kind of trouble low quality idiots end up in so often.
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Originally Posted By I3igAl⏩
“I am not saying in this conception of adult behavior that one style of being, one form of human existence is inevitably and in all circumstances superior to or better than another form of human existence, another style of being. What I am saying is that when one form of being is more congruent with the realities of existence, then it is the better form of living for those realities. And what I am saying is that when one form of existence ceases to be functional for the realities of existence then some other form, either higher or lower in the hierarchy, is the better form of living. I do suggest, however, and this I deeply believe is so, that for the overall welfare of total man's existence in this world, over the long run of time, higher levels are better than lower levels and that the prime good of any society's governing figures should be to promote human movement up the levels of human existence.” - The dude, who invented those sporal dynamics
"Like I said...You have the lower levels and you have no upper levels, you got a problem building...wait a minute. You have the upper levels, and you have no levels, you got a problem building your levels. You have the upper...you have the lower levels and you don't have the upper levels, the upper levels, it is easier to build. So if you have the lower levels and you don't have the upper levels, it is easier to build the upper levels. You have the upper levels and you don't have the levels, you got a problem building the lower levels... No, you don't understand. You have the upper levels, but you don't have the lower levels, you got a problem building downstairs. You got the up- levels on the bottom, it is easier to build on the top, so you don't have much as a problem. Yeah." - Janoy 'Tugboat' Cresva
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Originally Posted By I3igAl⏩
Kudos to OP.
Many have fought in the LTC crusade. All have fallen. OP is the first to actually win a battle.
No member of LTC has ever truly fallen if they remain LTC at the end of the day. The only loss is if they succumb to lard-worship propaganda. LTC still wake up every morning with standards, and likely the ability to slay fit and attractive women. On the other side of the fence, when the best you can do is a hose beast that feeds at McDonald's 4-6x per day, you're conditioned to find it acceptable and at some point, begin to like it and an HTC member you become. No matter what argument (aka cope) is presented by HTC, the LTC brethren always come out on top if they stay true to LTC.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
No member of LTC has ever truly fallen if they remain LTC at the end of the day. The only loss is if they succumb to lard-worship propaganda. LTC still wake up every morning with standards, and likely the ability to slay fit and attractive women. On the other side of the fence, when the best you can do is a hose beast that feeds at McDonald's 4-6x per day, you're conditioned to find it acceptable and at some point, begin to like it and an HTC member you become. No matter what argument (aka cope) is presented by HTC, the LTC brethren always come out on top if they stay true to LTC.
I read this like you were Aragon at the Black Gate or Mel Gibson in Braveheart. Inspiring, you are a shining champion of LTC.

Also, pWally used to win against HTC with his pics threads.
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
I dismiss your model out of hand as baseless psychological wankery. Especially if Caesar is only blue and you can't explain why killing a man and taking his daughter cannot be part of 'cosmic spirituality'.
Other brah already posted a great quote.

I'll add...

On the basis that the highest level of spirituality is Eudaimonia and Agape. Then you'll see that the lower to the higher moves towards personal wholeness, social cohesion, and Benevolence.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Other brah already posted a great quote.

I'll add...

On the basis that the highest level of spirituality is Eudaimonia and Agape. Then you'll see that the lower to the higher moves towards personal wholeness, social cohesion, and Benevolence.
I thought he was posting it as an example of inane babble lol

What if I don't care about the "overall welfare of 'total man's' existence", whatever that means? It just sounds like some new age universalism.

Those two you mention are interesting concepts I'm not familiar with though, I will look into them.
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Originally Posted By I3igAl⏩
The heroin-chic waif look from the 1990s was also pretty limited to the fashion industry. Pamela Anderson is basically the prototypical 90s queen and she doesn't fit that look well.
I agree that Pam was the mainstream beauty standard, rather than the waifs.

Pam was LTC though.
Even among topmodels more normal looking women like Heidi Klum, Cindy Crawford and Naomi Campbell stole the shows from waifs like Cindy Crawford.
Also looking at porn from the 1970s to 1990s thicker women were certainely rather common.
Porn wasn't mainstream in those times, so didn't have much influence on mainstream beauty standards.
While beauty standards certainely influence men I would say, they only do do negatively. They cannot train someone to like something he doesn't have in him. They can however create taboos, which might block people from finding out their true preferences and to open up to certain looks because they deem that weird. Or present certain traits in a way people will notice them more.
That may be a fair point.

Both the influence of actively creating taboos and actively creating desires. Nowadays IMO noone is shamed for liking tits or legs, but most White Western men still are constantly talking about dat ass.
While I hadn't discovered the beauty of HTC women in the 90s, I certainely admired thicker bootys on a lean frame and remember vividly enjoying Sabrina the Teenage Witch as a Teen mostly because of her booty. So in some ways the arrival of more HTC women on TV didn't really change me, but made me realize: "Wow, that can be hot." In my early teens I wouldn't look at women past a certain size and never notice that.
Are you saying that in your teens you were attracted to LTC (apart from Sabrina), but when HTC girl became more popular you became more attracted to them?
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
I thought he was posting it as an example of inane babble lol

What if I don't care about the "overall welfare of 'total man's' existence", whatever that means? .
What are you referring to?
Those two you mention are interesting concepts I'm not familiar with though, I will look into them.
Not familiar? You might like the Greek philosophers.

Maybe they can convince you to let go of this primitive masculinity admiration, that you seem to have. Maybe they will convince you to admire the Warrior-Poet or warrior-philosopher ideal more.
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Originally Posted By Better
Fashion shows are designed, made and ran by raging homosexuals and other women. JFL at using that to figure out what straight men find attractive.
I don't know how old you are, but Cindy Crawford, Heidi Klum, Elle Macpherson, Kate Moss, etc, were very popular when I was growing up with straight men.
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HTC really are fukn sick

They inflate the ego of these land whales and leave the rest of us to suffer instead of holding these sloots accountable
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
HTC really are fukn sick

They inflate the ego of these land whales and leave the rest of us to suffer instead of holding these sloots accountable
How does HTC inflating the egos of land whales leave the rest of you to suffer...unless you're trying to get with these aforementioned land whales and they decline your advances. Just lol.
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