Link to previous thread and data collection:https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=179084901

Cliffs:

HTC - Beta, feminist, matriarchal, gynarchic.

LTC - Alpha, patriarchal.


N.B. The terms Aryan and Indo-European are effectively the same and interchangeable, modern scholars use IE because of the Nahtzee connotations of the term Aryan. I will use Aryan throughout, because it's easier to write and because it may trigger some of you.


The Aryan invasion of Europe is established historical fact. It happened around 4000 years ago. Click to see maps:


Spoiler!


HTC is pre-Aryan matriarchal worship of the 'Earth Mother' (see Venus of Willendorf below for HTC goddess). Prior to ~2000BC Europeans lived in large, multi-generational, multi-familial longhouses where the young men were oppressed and ruled over by the older, fatter women of the tribe and had little in the way of freedom. These men were mostly beta farmers (see map), they weren't warlike and were easily conquered by both their women and by the invaders. The fat old women were likely serviced sexually by the young men, who developed a sort of fetishism around it.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Willendorf



LTC is Aryan patriarchal dominance of the 'Sky Father' (I.E. Zeus, Jupiter or other alpha Aryan Gods. Even the Jewish God can be viewed this way with some simple mental gymnastics in the alpha forms of Christianity). After the Aryan invasion of Europe, societies became structured differently. The beta tribes of farmers were conquered and ruled over by bands of alpha young men on chariots who would take the younger LTC women to wife and breed with, while disregarding the fatter older ones. They didn't let the fat old women boss them around like the beta farmers had done. The pinnacle of this alpha patriarchal societal structure was perhaps the pater familias and the entire Roman imperial structure, which also coincides with possibly the pinnacle of European Civilisation.

What we see now with the popularity of milfs, and of fat women with clown asses is a return to the dominance of the Venus of Willendorf archetype, and the resurgence of the betas who want to worship them. It's no coincidence that this has coincided with the decline of male testosterone, the rise of soyboys, women in positions of power, SJW feminism, far-left politics and the attempted crushing of the spirits and freedom of young men. Basically, it's modern day gynarchy and we must fight it.

The terms HTC and LTC are total misnomers and the precise opposite of the truth. Proud LTC alphas we must be.

P.S. I would bet that there is a strong correlation between HTC and those who think teenage tiktok hnnnnggggg is paedophilia.

Very scholarly work, I'm more LTC but occasionally MTC and love juicy milfs

Thanks brah. I feel there are many LTC brahs who are unable to stand up to the HTC "hurr durr real men like real women, we has bigger diks" rhetoric. I am here to champion them.

Don't get me wrong, I also like juicy ass and teds, but LTC women are superior and that part of you which wants to bone overweight milfs must be supressed.

Hnnng. Perfect example of LTC.

Here's the straight truth, which always pisses off Western White European HTC/ass loving dudes whenever I bring it up;

I'm in my late 30s, and I grew up in 80s and 90s constantly hearing about how thin, long legs, and big tits was the ideal for women in Western society.

It was literally an insult in the 80s and 90s to tell a white woman that she had a fat ass. I swear. Anyone who is above the age of 35 will likely back me up. White men used to ask each other"Are you a leg or a breast man"here in the UK.

However, being a Black-British brah, I was also exposed to British-Caribbean and African-American sub-cultures and the female ideal was definitely HTC. I also learned (as did Arnold Schwarzenegger in an infamous documentary clip) that HTC was the ideal in Latin America.

Hispanic, African-American, and Caribbean cultures were all about dat ass, whereas White European cultures were all about dem teddies and legs. Facts.

Then things began to change in the 00s. Gonzo porn went mainstream, and the Bang Bros were notorious for loving HTC and big asses. Rap music began to go mainstream and began to influence the masses, and African-American brahs loved big asses, rapped about big asses, and had girls with big asses in videos. Then Jennifer Lopez became a 'sex symbol' and her ass was spoken about in phuckin newspapers (at least here in the UK), and women were talking about 'trying to get a bum like JLO).

Then by late 00s I began to hear white European dudes talking about 'ass', and by 2010s White European dudes are now talking about 'pancakes', liking big ass.

If anyone wants to know what kind of women White European men liked in 80s and 90s when I grew up, just look at the kind of women that Eastern European men like. It's LTC, and a focus on tits.

Young White American brahs have no idea that their preferences for women's bodies has been shaped by culture. That doesn't mean it's wrong, because we all are likely shaped by a combination nature and nuture. If I grew up in Japan in as a military kid or something, in international school with little exposure to Hispanic, Caribbean or African-American culture, I would likely prefer LTC.

It's witnessing that change in White European men's preferences that has helped me realize the power of culture.

I would like to commend you on your in depth analysis of LTC and HTC.
Let me offer an equally in depth, opposing view as a retort.







Negged

Although... It seems that White Western men's beauty standards may actually fluctuate more than any other group of men's, for some reason...

OP using projecting tactics of the criminal leftists. Accuse your opponents of your own shortfalls and be loud about it.

Caring this much about someone’s body preference on the misc is very LTC energy.

Repped. Watched the link from your other thread - was interesting. And legit lold at the above.

These might be good retorts if they weren't far more true of HTC. HTC are the vocal minority here.

This

Only one butthurt HTC member has actually negged me for either of these threads. UknowWho you are.What link? I don't remember posting a video.

The issue with your analysis is you’re making strong correlations without much evidence. Betaasphuck makes more of a point with body types being more cultural, but what ima need from you is actual studies showing a link between low testosterone and men that like thicker women.

A major issue is the terms HTC and LTC are very subjective, so I’d imagine there would be problems studying this off jump.


Either way, lol at caring about this chit. Just find you a nice ltc and move on with your life

She's HTC, sorry.

LTC female checklist:
- Prepubescent face
- Flat ass, with a hint of tits
- Have to delete browser history after fapping incase fbi

COT damn, this is HTC material

Yeah brah, I typed this up as a laugh on my lunch break. It's only semi-serious. I'm not going to do a literature review. Just look at the sloot up there being claimed by both.


Below: Two LTC alphas mow down a HTC beta on their chariot, circa 2000BC

Came here to say htc is most often cope instead while dodging your aryan charts ill instead say I read eaters of the dead where the wends worship that same alleged htc diety I would be interested to see how often and where this large woman appeared. I’m not certain how accurate such large worship was but I have read several cultures went through a matriarchal phase

My bad. Another thread in the last week had a youtube vid that shows the Indo Europeans spread through Europe.
Something about where actual people come from in Europe.
Either way - LTC pls.

Relevant:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assemblywomen

Assemblywomen (Greek: Ἐκκλησιάζουσαι Ekklesiazousai; also translated as, Congresswomen, Women in Parliament, Women in Power, and A Parliament of Women) is a comedy written by the Greek playwright Aristophanes in 391 BC. The play invents a scenario where the women of Athens assume control of the government and instate reforms that ban private wealth and enforce sexual equality for the old and unattractive.

These two are in strong denial

I think due to the nomenclature, miscers want to be HTC even if they like LTC women most, because obviously being high test is good. That girl is young and in shape, her ass looks bigger there than it really is because of how she's sitting. She's LTC. It was devious on the part of whoever coined the terms (RICHSTRONG?) to insinuate that high test men like fat women more.

Richardstrong masterfully manipulated his followers.

He put in a lot of work to make thirsting for fatties seem cool

LTC stops at 100lbs. She's undeniably in the HTC category, sorry brah.

She's LTC...

Meanwhile he has an LTC wife.


But the Lard Guard eats it up anyway.

Her body fat is low enough for to have this level of spinal erector definition and you kents still associate her with the fat cows you hnnnhggg over. You really need to make up your mind as to what "HTC" means.

How does everyone know what his wife looks like