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Teacher unions actively fighting reopening schools is proof teachers are trash
02-03-2021, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted By ANumber1⏩
This has to be a joke.public employee unions should be broken up by the military and their leaders deported, srs
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02-03-2021, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
Got to fill out my grey joggers m8Always had a feeling the creepy male teachers were into jelqing
02-03-2021, 10:26 AM
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Explain why Chicago public school teachers, teachers that have gotten the GD vaccine already BECAUSE they are going to be around these kids on the front line, are refusing to be around these kids? Also, explain why they are so special, yet all of the suburban public school teachers are back teaching in classrooms and have been since August. I'll wait... [please answer unions so I can launch into a rant about public sector unions being complete BS. Bribing/donating to political parties who you then "negotiate" against for raises, benefits, and the inability to terminate bad employees is the definition of corruption]
Yes, their job is education. But there is more to schooling than sitting in a chair and being fed facts from a power point. There are social aspects for the kids as well as growing independence aware from home and many other benefits to attending school.
Both of my kids attend school and have been doing as much in-person as possible. We get calls a couple times a week saying that somebody at school has tested positive and those who have been in close contact will be quarantined. My son has been in close contact twice and had to quarantine. Finally, I emailed the principals of both schools and asked what percentage of students that have been "in close contact with a positive case" ever tested positive themselves. Both principals called me back and said that they HAD NOT HAD A SINGLE CASE. Not one time had someone transmitted Covid in the school since August of last year.
So give me a break with this entitled, public-sector union charade. Especially when the teachers themselves have been out at bars and restaurants and at family gatherings, and when doctors, nurses, janitors, grocery store workers, retail cashiers, and a good majority of the rest of us have been out working in this pandemic the whole time.
Yes, their job is education. But there is more to schooling than sitting in a chair and being fed facts from a power point. There are social aspects for the kids as well as growing independence aware from home and many other benefits to attending school.
Both of my kids attend school and have been doing as much in-person as possible. We get calls a couple times a week saying that somebody at school has tested positive and those who have been in close contact will be quarantined. My son has been in close contact twice and had to quarantine. Finally, I emailed the principals of both schools and asked what percentage of students that have been "in close contact with a positive case" ever tested positive themselves. Both principals called me back and said that they HAD NOT HAD A SINGLE CASE. Not one time had someone transmitted Covid in the school since August of last year.
So give me a break with this entitled, public-sector union charade. Especially when the teachers themselves have been out at bars and restaurants and at family gatherings, and when doctors, nurses, janitors, grocery store workers, retail cashiers, and a good majority of the rest of us have been out working in this pandemic the whole time.
02-03-2021, 10:32 AM
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Teaching is the laziest most overpaid profession.
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02-03-2021, 10:33 AM
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All of the education majors I went to college with also happened to drink and party the most every week. Now they are apparently heroes and I should worship the ground they walk on.
02-03-2021, 10:37 AM
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Schools a joke. My boys finally back to in person class after a year. They go 1 day a week, for four hours. The other four days are still online, for four hours. Yesterday one class was 10 minutes because the teacher had to go teach the in class kids. Schools always been a joke though. They don’t teach kids anything that applies to real life.
02-03-2021, 10:47 AM
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This is why my son will be attending a private school when he begins next year.
I just wish I could take my property taxes that are used for the local public school and use it to help cover his tuition instead.
I just wish I could take my property taxes that are used for the local public school and use it to help cover his tuition instead.
02-03-2021, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted By freeburn⏩
Why do you post nonsense like this with nothing to back it up? Please look at swoleyo as an example of how to post facts to back up your points. Then feel free to respond or just delete your factually inaccurate post.I don't blame them. Teachers are underpaid. Parents are ****ing idiots not vaccinating kids and ****. I wouldn't want to be in a room with 20+ little dirt balls either.
Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩
Teachers in Chicago make around 90k for working half a year. You think that's bad?
edit: link it's all public record what they make. Some of these clowns are over 105k
https://www.cps.edu/about/finance/em...osition-files/
edit: link it's all public record what they make. Some of these clowns are over 105k
https://www.cps.edu/about/finance/em...osition-files/
02-03-2021, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩
The exception, not the ruleTeachers in Chicago make around 90k for working half a year. You think that's bad?
edit: link it's all public record what they make. Some of these clowns are over 105k
https://www.cps.edu/about/finance/em...osition-files/
edit: link it's all public record what they make. Some of these clowns are over 105k
https://www.cps.edu/about/finance/em...osition-files/
Also 90k in Chicago isnt much
02-03-2021, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Facts to back up your claim? Not even once...The exception, not the rule
Also 90k in Chicago isnt much
Also 90k in Chicago isnt much
Here are two diff sources found upon a quick Google search:
"In 2018, Chicago, IL had a population of 2.71M people with a median age of 34.9 and a median household income of $57238."
"As of Jan 27, 2021, the average annual pay for a Full Time in Chicago is $50,181 an year. "
So according to you, the average teacher should make almost double the average HOUSEHOLD income in Chicago for 2/3 of a year's work? Remember, teachers don't work during the summer and get every holiday known to man off. Please, cry me a river.
02-03-2021, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted By jimbone21⏩
I'm on mobile but I'll look some stuff up when I'm back on my computerFacts to back up your claim? Not even once...
Here are two diff sources found upon a quick Google search:
"In 2018, Chicago, IL had a population of 2.71M people with a median age of 34.9 and a median household income of $57238."
"As of Jan 27, 2021, the average annual pay for a Full Time in Chicago is $50,181 an year. "
So according to you, the average teacher should make almost double the average HOUSEHOLD income in Chicago for 2/3 of a year's work? Remember, teachers don't work during the summer and get every holiday known to man off. Please, cry me a river.
Here are two diff sources found upon a quick Google search:
"In 2018, Chicago, IL had a population of 2.71M people with a median age of 34.9 and a median household income of $57238."
"As of Jan 27, 2021, the average annual pay for a Full Time in Chicago is $50,181 an year. "
So according to you, the average teacher should make almost double the average HOUSEHOLD income in Chicago for 2/3 of a year's work? Remember, teachers don't work during the summer and get every holiday known to man off. Please, cry me a river.
Who is crying? I'm not a fan of teachers at all, I think it's a lazy profession for people who do not have the stomach for a real career
02-03-2021, 11:24 AM
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They really should just change the name of education system to indoctrination system and be done with it.
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02-03-2021, 11:42 AM
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Do not want my kids going back to school and having to deal with lack of attention and other peoples brats that just use school as a daycare.
Legit thinking of homeschooling them.
They are teaching our kids to be cucks and that bullying has benefits and that we should feel sorry for them.
Legit thinking of homeschooling them.
Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
Schools protect the bullies now, not the victims. When I was a kid and stood up to bullies I was applauded. If my kids stand up to bullies, they get suspended.Now, as a grown man looking back, I realize most of my public school teachers the most toxic, petty, immature and mean-spirited people I've ever encountered.
Most female teachers were vindictive and prone to temper tantrums, and the male teachers were insecure ego-fragile goons that liked to bully the boys and perv out on the girls.
The public school system was very much similar to a prison - boys had to stand up to bullies on the school yard and stand up to harassment from teachers.... and when school was over and we walked or rode our bikes home, we'd have cops tailing us and intimidating us....
If I have kids, I'm not sure if I'd want them in public school. On one hand, it's a rite of passage for all boys to stand up to bullying, but on the other hand, I know that the school system is even worse now than when I was a kid and my future sons or daughters will end up being used as pawns in a power game by liberal authoritarians.....
Most female teachers were vindictive and prone to temper tantrums, and the male teachers were insecure ego-fragile goons that liked to bully the boys and perv out on the girls.
The public school system was very much similar to a prison - boys had to stand up to bullies on the school yard and stand up to harassment from teachers.... and when school was over and we walked or rode our bikes home, we'd have cops tailing us and intimidating us....
If I have kids, I'm not sure if I'd want them in public school. On one hand, it's a rite of passage for all boys to stand up to bullying, but on the other hand, I know that the school system is even worse now than when I was a kid and my future sons or daughters will end up being used as pawns in a power game by liberal authoritarians.....
They are teaching our kids to be cucks and that bullying has benefits and that we should feel sorry for them.
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02-03-2021, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted By jimbone21⏩
Alright, average salary for teachers in the US is just under $40kFacts to back up your claim? Not even once...
Here are two diff sources found upon a quick Google search:
"In 2018, Chicago, IL had a population of 2.71M people with a median age of 34.9 and a median household income of $57238."
"As of Jan 27, 2021, the average annual pay for a Full Time in Chicago is $50,181 an year. "
So according to you, the average teacher should make almost double the average HOUSEHOLD income in Chicago for 2/3 of a year's work? Remember, teachers don't work during the summer and get every holiday known to man off. Please, cry me a river.
Here are two diff sources found upon a quick Google search:
"In 2018, Chicago, IL had a population of 2.71M people with a median age of 34.9 and a median household income of $57238."
"As of Jan 27, 2021, the average annual pay for a Full Time in Chicago is $50,181 an year. "
So according to you, the average teacher should make almost double the average HOUSEHOLD income in Chicago for 2/3 of a year's work? Remember, teachers don't work during the summer and get every holiday known to man off. Please, cry me a river.
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice...-teachers-make
This article says median wage more like $50k, which makes sense with a lot of teachers at the top having tenure and making more
https://www.topeducationdegrees.org/...r-make-a-year/
So like I said, making 90k as a teacher in Chicago, that's not very indicative of the average
Teachers make slightly more than the average for ALL occupations, yes. However you need to consider all occupations include a lot of jobs that don't even require a bachelor's degree
My point is that for someone to go to college for 4 years, get a degree, and then choose teaching, that person more often than not is not going to be a great worker. They could become a CPA or a nurse or go into marketing or tech or do any of these other jobs with higher salaries and more opportunity, but they choose to become a teacher. I'm not surprised, then, when the quality of our teachers sucks. It's the loser job, it's the "safe" job
Your points are valid I think we are saying similar things
02-03-2021, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
a) Comparing teaching positions across the poverty stricken areas of the nation vs the big cities that are holding up union teachers from returning to the classroom is disingenuous.Alright, average salary for teachers in the US is just under $40k
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice...-teachers-make
This article says median wage more like $50k, which makes sense with a lot of teachers at the top having tenure and making more
https://www.topeducationdegrees.org/...r-make-a-year/
So like I said, making 90k as a teacher in Chicago, that's not very indicative of the average
Teachers make slightly more than the average for ALL occupations, yes. However you need to consider all occupations include a lot of jobs that don't even require a bachelor's degree
My point is that for someone to go to college for 4 years, get a degree, and then choose teaching, that person more often than not is not going to be a great worker. They could become a CPA or a nurse or go into marketing or tech or do any of these other jobs with higher salaries and more opportunity, but they choose to become a teacher. I'm not surprised, then, when the quality of our teachers sucks. It's the loser job, it's the "safe" job
Your points are valid I think we are saying similar things
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice...-teachers-make
This article says median wage more like $50k, which makes sense with a lot of teachers at the top having tenure and making more
https://www.topeducationdegrees.org/...r-make-a-year/
So like I said, making 90k as a teacher in Chicago, that's not very indicative of the average
Teachers make slightly more than the average for ALL occupations, yes. However you need to consider all occupations include a lot of jobs that don't even require a bachelor's degree
My point is that for someone to go to college for 4 years, get a degree, and then choose teaching, that person more often than not is not going to be a great worker. They could become a CPA or a nurse or go into marketing or tech or do any of these other jobs with higher salaries and more opportunity, but they choose to become a teacher. I'm not surprised, then, when the quality of our teachers sucks. It's the loser job, it's the "safe" job
Your points are valid I think we are saying similar things
b) Teaching salary comparisons are the biggest propaganda ever because nobody bothers to multiply it by 1.33. A teacher making 50k/year for 9 months of work is an equivalent salary of somebody working the full 12 months and making $6,666/year.
All of this ignores the ACTUAL issue ITT, which is the fact that these teaching unions are hiding behind false statistics to avoid going back to work.
02-03-2021, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
I'd say it's a different type of bullying now: psychological and emotional bullying.Do not want my kids going back to school and having to deal with lack of attention and other peoples brats that just use school as a daycare.
Legit thinking of homeschooling them.
Schools protect the bullies now, not the victims. When I was a kid and stood up to bullies I was applauded. If my kids stand up to bullies, they get suspended.
They are teaching our kids to be cucks and that bullying has benefits and that we should feel sorry for them.
Legit thinking of homeschooling them.
Schools protect the bullies now, not the victims. When I was a kid and stood up to bullies I was applauded. If my kids stand up to bullies, they get suspended.
They are teaching our kids to be cucks and that bullying has benefits and that we should feel sorry for them.
When I was a kid, boys would settle whatever differences they had down by the basketball courts. If we got caught, both parties were suspended regardless of who instigated (just like in prison, both parties are sent to the SHU). These days, schools take the issue of traditional bullying more seriously due to the recent trend in school shootings.
But traditional, male hazing bullying has been replaced by a different type of bullying and a different type of bully: male shaming (toxic masculinity) and the new bullies are the leftist liberals that shame boys just for being boys.
I'd say the new type of bullying is even more insidious because it's part of a state-indoctrinated mental slavery (specifically aimed at males).
The old-school male-hazing bullying from the 90s toughened boys mentally and emotionally, which is why I kinda consider it a rite of passage.... but this new type of bullying seeks to permanently damage boys psychologically...
Everything I post is satire.
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02-04-2021, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
90k is almost double the median income in Chicago. Double the median income isn't much? wtf.The exception, not the rule
Also 90k in Chicago isnt much
Also 90k in Chicago isnt much
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Originally Posted By ParsleyTea⏩
Yep, I live in a city that votes like 95% Dem and any time the schools system asks for some ridiculous tax increase for schools it passes overwhelmingly. The parents are marching to bring in-person learning back because they know the current system is inferior. Hopefully this is the situation that finally causes the world to wake up to how vile teacher's unions are.I hope that the teachers unions allow schools in other states to reopen. From what I've been reading in person learning is better for students. From what I've read it has been a bipartisan issue too. As an example ~
"Even the left is demanding schools be reopened"
https://nypost.com/2021/02/01/even-t...s-be-reopened/
Here in Florida public school are open and there hasn't been issues with the COVID virus thankfully. With sensible safety measures other states schools should be able to do the same as Florida.
"Even the left is demanding schools be reopened"
https://nypost.com/2021/02/01/even-t...s-be-reopened/
Here in Florida public school are open and there hasn't been issues with the COVID virus thankfully. With sensible safety measures other states schools should be able to do the same as Florida.
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