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post 1648449003 10-06-2021, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
Depends on who/what's doing the jamming. An aircraft carrier can generate significantly more power than a stand-off aircraft or missile, and at significantly longer ranges. There's also a wide variety of capabilities in electronic warfare outside of jamming to disrupt/confuse a guidance/homing system. Electronic Warfare is a pretty heavily classified field of study, which is why it's never really talked about in detail.
theres no missile defense system on earth that can effectively stop a hypersonic missile attack. the defense systems that aircraft carriers are equip with a no match for it at all.

thats why the US should be investing more into defense tech r&d.
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post 1648450003 10-06-2021, 05:18 PM
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Inb4 it the tech is stolen by the Chang master race.
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post 1648450133 10-06-2021, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
I guess they haven't thought about that before your post.
clearly they havent or they would be the ones with the best cruise missile tech instead of russia.


maybe spend less money paying for retards college tuitions and more on military tech contractors.
post 1648450513 10-06-2021, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
You sound like Wincel trying to explain something he doesn't understand.
okay since you understand it so much better than i do, do you care to educated me by posting a missile defense system that is capable of detecting and intercepting (reliably) a mach 9 cruise missile?
post 1648451663 10-06-2021, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
Depends on the target, the missile, and its flight profile.
Don't answer the questions. If you know what I think you know it shouldn't be discussed.

There are more capabilities that isn't discussed in public for good reason.
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
Depends on the target, the missile, and its flight profile.
I dont think the russian hypersonic cruise missiles have a different flight path than any other cruise missile. I could be wrong though.


Either way, what difference would it make?
post 1648451953 10-06-2021, 05:52 PM
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Every tech you hear about in the media will already be discovered 20+ years ago. The secret stuff they have now is going to be more advanced.
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Originally Posted By LYCLifter⏩
Um no need. The subs can already park off your coast with nukes. It is only a matter of minutes before they strike. An ICBM takes less than 40 mins from launch to target. I am just saying that reducing the strike time from minutes to seconds doesn't really change the equation of warfare that much when you are targeting a city that would take weeks to empty. Besides James Bond will hit the kill switch mere moments before the strike anyway.
if you could reduce it to <10seconds
isnt that fast enough to stop any retaliatory strikes? or is it all decentralized and automated. so it wouldnt matter, enemy subs would just do the same thing back
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post 1648452463 10-06-2021, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted By zknarc⏩
Lol, this. An actual piloted aircraft (X15) flew mach 6.7 in 1967. That is 54 years ago.

Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
The flying wing planform that the B-21 utilizes for high altitude operations is literally the most efficient RCS design you can have, that's why it's being used. And the magic isn't necessarily in that, it's in the Electronics package it carries with it. Nevermind the fact that Northrop has been designing flying wing type aircraft for various proposals/projects for decades.

As for the missile that was tested, air-breathing missiles are considerably harder to design for hypersonic flight than non-airbreathing, especially ones that need to maneuver. So it is quite the feat.
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oth radar is going to see it coming no matter what. Its RCS is the smallest it can get...according to NG....according their specific test conditions and radar testing. Its literally a rejected design that has no use in modern strategic warfare. ACTUAL hypersonic missiles are the EXACT method used to overcome OTH radar LMAO LMAO LMAO

NG CLEARLY lobbied for this path. It is not the most best strategy and it puts us in a vulnerable position against Russia specifically, and probably china in the near future.

The B21 could perform absolutely perfectly and it would be useless against other superpowers. You can say whatever you want about the avionics....that can be on any platform.
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post 1648453663 10-06-2021, 06:20 PM
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Lol.

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post 1648453753 10-06-2021, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
There are things you need to learn about OTH radars (what they provide vs whatdon'tprovide), what strike packages are (the unique roles of aircraft as it relates to a specific target/mission set), and the sensor suites available on newer generation aircraft and what their general purpose is. This will go a long way in dispelling the misconceptions you stated above.
fukking lmao

Yeah? Like what? "oth can't tell missiles where to go?"

That's fukking hilarious because:

1) it limits the scope of search and can limit the scope other radars/sensors have to search
2) a bird flying at 600mph is pretty fukking obvious

There's a reason hypersonic missiles have been the primary focus of our adversaries for the last TWO DECADES.
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post 1648453893 10-06-2021, 06:23 PM
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Hope they'll slap a rainbow paintjob on it.
He/his/him preferred pronouns as well. That would be funny.
post 1648454253 10-06-2021, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
fukking lmao

Yeah? Like what? "oth can't tell missiles where to go?"

That's fukking hilarious because:

1) it limits the scope of search and can limit the scope other radars/sensors have to search
2) a bird flying at 600mph is pretty fukking obvious

There's a reason hypersonic missiles have been the primary focus of our adversaries for the last TWO DECADES.
What focus do you think nation states would develop for missiles other than making them go faster?

Payload? Doesn't take much to do alot of damage.

Maneuverability? Helps, but there are limitations to that and ultimately everyone knows where the missile is going when you are a ship in the middle of the ocean.

Speed is basically the only variable you can go in that increases the effectiveness of a missile.
post 1648454893 10-06-2021, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
Every target can have a unique set of countermeasures, or none at all, just depends. And missiles, whether it's a guided missile or ballistic missile, can have unique capabilities, strengths & weaknesses. Some match up better than others, it's about pairing up strengths vs weaknesses. Some targets will naturally be more vulnerable, others, not so much. Speed certainly puts the target at a disadvantage, but it doesn't make the missile invincible.Fixed/hard targets like bunkers, command & control structures, etc will typically be easy targets because a) they can't move and b) don't really have a lot to counter incoming missiles.
when will the target for a cruise missile realistically not be either fixed or slow moving though?


and thats all good and nice but again, what defense system today is capable of stopping a mach 9 cruise missile going to any target?
post 1648475863 10-07-2021, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
when will the target for a cruise missile realistically not be either fixed or slow moving though?


and thats all good and nice but again, what defense system today is capable of stopping a mach 9 cruise missile going to any target?
Mach 9? Wtf
post 1648476153 10-07-2021, 06:16 AM
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Yawn. I've been informing misc about these things for a long while now. Wish ppl would listen. They already have gone from combustion engines to reactive tritium gas engines. The reason being is the max velocity of particles is much greater. 40~120%. It's a whole new way of thinking about propulsion.
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Originally Posted By Babayagawick85⏩
Mach 9? Wtf
Mach 9 is fkn nootin'! They got fookin Mach 25 now bruddah

They'll go straight up a camel's ass in Mumbai from halfway around the fookin' planet!
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All this hypersonic chit is really just the next arms race like we had with nucs back in the day.


Also a lot going on here with this announcement. First its a pentagon press release so they are wanting to put that message out for whatever reason. either to justify their budgets to show success or so that china sees it or whatever. second it says a DARPA test, so they still in early prototype testing. it doesnt mean its ready for mass production
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887⏩
What if they jam the jammers?
Then you have to worry about jamming the jammer jammers.

Reminds me of police radars

Police get radar guns
Jammers are created
Jammer detectors are created
Jammer detector detectors are created
jammer jammers are created
kind of hilarious
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post 1648476803 10-07-2021, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted By windchimesilo⏩
It would take 2.5 hours for that missile to travel across the face of the earth. Scrap the project. Put money into space force and have satellites in orbit that can shoot down on targets.
The only thing keeping us from not having nucs or conventional weapons on satellites aimed at earth is treaties everyone signed. They were worried it would create another arms race with more and more of them up in space. Pretty sure we and russia and china have atleast a few up there. We violate every other treaty.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
The only thing keeping us from not having nucs or conventional weapons on satellites aimed at earth is treaties everyone signed. They were worried it would create another arms race with more and more of them up in space. Pretty sure we and russia and china have atleast a few up there. We violate every other treaty.
Yeah since when have treaties been anything other than a tool for the big players to exert power against the smaller ones.

Hey you signed this treaty you can't do that
uh but you're doing it
yeah what you gonna do about it?
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Originally Posted By nn586⏩
Lol Mach 15 is nothing. Mach 25+ is what we need to be competitive

JFL
Lol if you don't have missiles traveling at the speed of light.
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
Oh great just what the world needa during a global pandemic and large scale ecological disaster. A fuken missile that will kill us all a bit faster...

We could feed the entire planet with the money wasted in fancier and deadlier weapons just so the military industrial oligarchs can get a bit richer. Fuk them.
The US can't handle another war. Covid nearly put them out of business and was printing out money at mach 5 speeds.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
Lol if you don't have missiles traveling at the speed of light.
Childs play, just LOL if you're not chucking missiles through worm holes. SoL is not adequate for inter-galaxy warfare.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
clearly they havent or they would be the ones with the best cruise missile tech instead of russia.


maybe spend less money paying for retards college tuitions and more on military tech contractors.
Wow look at this ****. The us military has the highest budget in the world and this **** wants you to give them more money and colleges less money. He should get his ass beat, ded fkn srs.
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LMAO brah we already have chit in space that is way more effective than this mach 5 bullchit. You think the satellites fElon keeps launching are for web services. LULZ
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
Wow look at this ****. The us military has the highest budget in the world and this **** wants you to give them more money and colleges less money. He should get his ass beat, ded fkn srs.
Id fuk you till you love me, pussy

U mad?
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Originally Posted By Jms89⏩
LMAO brah we already have chit in space that is way more effective than this mach 5 bullchit. You think the satellites fElon keeps launching are for web services. LULZ
I get excited yet terrified at what we possibly have currently thats top secret that we havent seen yet. Blows my mind.
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