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post 1659370583 04-09-2022, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted By ProSaibot⏩
Isn't Chestbrah 36? Many may shait on him but the guy looks extremely great and improved his physique the past few years.
Chestbrah is far af from natty.
post 1659370813 04-09-2022, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted By gainslit⏩
Chestbrah is far af from natty.
OP did not mention being natty though lol but Yeah, he has been on sarms and roids and whatnot.
post 1659370823 04-09-2022, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted By ectoBgone⏩
You must be joking. There is very little age related decline that would affect this until you get into your 60s. The biggest change before then is skin collagen, which can mute the visual effect of being lean since the skin does not lie as tight or look quite as good but your abs will show all the same. Otherwise your problems are lifestyle related, stop making excuses.
Skin collagen is a big problem, especially for women who have had babies. I know one exercise instructor who has abs but she's getting into her 60s so her skin isn't as taut and they don't look like they did 10 years ago. Still, its impressive at her age. She does exercise 4-5 hours a day, though, and eats fast food.
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post 1659371353 04-09-2022, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By fate0311⏩
what's a practical BF% to attain that gives a good balance of health/aesthetics and ability to enjoy life without making your dieting a 2nd job tracking/preping?
A little below 15% IMO because you're always just a couple weeks and a few little dietary tweaks from getting shredded.
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post 1659371423 04-09-2022, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted By Redundanteater⏩
Yes it is certainly possible.

Actual metabolic slowdown only occurs later in life (60+) and even then is relatively small effect.

Much more significant is that people lose motivation, get focused on work/family/kids etc. Priorities change. But if you continue being active and eating sensibly you can be lean and fit throughout your thirties, forties, and beyond.

Edit: Agree with above comment, around 15% bf (accurate not imagined) is a reasonably balanced target for late 30's+.
False AF. You can experience metabolic slowdown in as little as 8 weeks with a rigid calories deficit. And it can take over a year to recover if you diet even longer than that. There was a study done showing obese people losing weight down to a 2000ish cal diet reset their new resting/basal metabolic rate to that 2000 level. And even after a year had not gone back up to over that.

The body will do whatever it can to survive. That’s why it’s critically important to lose it slowly.
post 1659371503 04-09-2022, 12:31 PM
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post 1659371633 04-09-2022, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
A little below 15% IMO because you're always just a couple weeks and a few little dietary tweaks from getting shredded.
Yeah, I'd say this is right. When you're like 18% it takes months to get back into good shape. But 15% you can do a 2-3 week diet and cardio and recomp to normal.
post 1659371653 04-09-2022, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Underwrought⏩
False AF. You can experience metabolic slowdown in as little as 8 weeks with a rigid calories deficit. And it can take over a year to recover if you diet even longer than that. There was a study done showing obese people losing weight down to a 2000ish cal diet reset their new resting/basal metabolic rate to that 2000 level. And even after a year had not gone back up to over that.

The body will do whatever it can to survive. That’s why it’s critically important to lose it slowly.
This is so stupid and confusing. You have the motivation and consistency to eat 2000 calories daily, but biology doesn't let you lose the weight.



I think I'm gonna bump myself up to 2300. Tdee is 3150, cutting at 2140 is considered extreme weight loss

https://www.calculator.net/tdee-calc...it=0&x=67&y=21
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
This is so stupid and confusing, almost unbelievable. You have the motivation and consistency to eat 2000 calories daily, but biology doesn't let you lose the weight.



I think I'm gonna bump myself up to 2300. Tdee is 3150, cutting at 2140 is considered extreme weight loss

https://www.calculator.net/tdee-calc...it=0&x=67&y=21
Adaptive thermogenesis. Look it up before talking chit and confirming your ignorance.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3673773/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23535105/
post 1659372303 04-09-2022, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Underwrought⏩
Adaptive thermogenesis. Look it up before talking chit and confirming your ignorance.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3673773/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23535105/
I wasn't calling YOU stupid, I'm pointing at biology.
post 1659372423 04-09-2022, 12:55 PM
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Yes, I have visible abs. It's actually much easier to be lean with abs than grow big natty muscle after 30.

I went with IF to drop a ton of fat and it worked pretty quickly. I'm probably going to put a few more lbs back on now.

I went down to 175 @ 6'2" was a little too lean. I'm at 183 now and I think that is a better place to be.
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post 1659372593 04-09-2022, 12:59 PM
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37 natty with abs
post 1659373303 04-09-2022, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Underwrought⏩
False AF. You can experience metabolic slowdown in as little as 8 weeks with a rigid calories deficit. And it can take over a year to recover if you diet even longer than that. There was a study done showing obese people losing weight down to a 2000ish cal diet reset their new resting/basal metabolic rate to that 2000 level. And even after a year had not gone back up to over that.

The body will do whatever it can to survive. That’s why it’s critically important to lose it slowly.
We may be defining "metabolism" differently. I do agree it's best to lose weight in a slow and controlled fashion. Here's what I was talking about, in terms of metabolism vs age:

https://today.duke.edu/2021/08/metab...20new%20normal.
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Im 32

Eat 4000 cals a day and still have abs and
vasculairty everywhere, prolly gonna up it to 4500 soon

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Still workout 6 days a week but the whole watching my diet thing isn’t for me anymore. Also have a few beers/cocktails every single day. Walk around lean though, and like someone else said I roll out of bed with abs but they’re gone once I eat. Essentially sit in a place where I’m a month of watching macros away from being super cut again. At this age staying in that state isn’t worth the sacrifice
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I have visible abs over 35

Some Miscers in their 60s have visible abs
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Run sprints 2-3x/week

Weights/calisthenics 2-3x/week

Limit alcoholic drinks to like ~10 max/week

Stop eating fast food by age 35 that chit is for kids and fat people anyway.

?????

Profit
post 1659374403 04-09-2022, 01:48 PM
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I sure hope so
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Still workout 6 days a week but the whole watching my diet thing isn’t for me anymore. Also have a few beers/cocktails every single day. Walk around lean though, and like someone else said I roll out of bed with abs but they’re gone once I eat. Essentially sit in a place where I’m a month of watching macros away from being super cut again. At this age staying in that state isn’t worth the sacrifice
Yeah, this is well said.

I gotta get cut up for a beach vacation I have in like 6 months.... the problem I foresee is that i'll be a beach bloatlord due to all inclusive/copious eating/ drinking after the first day there. Will be be perma bloat.

I always look kinda cut when hungover though, chits weird. I guess it dehydrates u haha
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Originally Posted By gainslit⏩
Yeah, but I feel like the suffering becomes worse the older you get. Can eat whatever u want when younger and don’t get fat.

Sucks man, food so good. I always binge at night after being diligent all day.

And lifting makes u so hungry lol
The goal is to be there by 35 then all you have to do is maintain. Much easier than yo-yo’ing from lardass to gigachad.
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37 and plan to get back in the best shape of my life when gyms reopen to non-vax.
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Originally Posted By plsmire⏩
37 and plan to get back in the best shape of my life when gyms reopen to non-vax.
Gotdamn, you still aren't able to go? Absurd.
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Originally Posted By plsmire⏩
37 and plan to get back in the best shape of my life when gyms reopen to non-vax.
Wow man did not realize things are still that bad for UK brahs! Ouch.
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Originally Posted By azumi121⏩
It’s all about calories in vs out and your metabolism. Anyone can get ripped if they’re willing to suffer through starvation and strenuous exercise. Everyone has abs under the layer of fat.
Originally Posted By 73ers⏩
Im 32

Eat 4000 cals a day and still have abs and
vasculairty everywhere, prolly gonna up it to 4500 soon

Meanwhile as females we have to go under 1800

Mirin dedication.
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Yeah but I feel like most people's main issue is life-style/diet more then anything else.



I know a lot of people (males and females) that were super lean/athletic in HS with six packs and all that jazz. Post college between work, kids, etc. they don't even exercise 1/4 of what they did when they were younger. Diet is crap. Stressed out all the time. Etc.
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Originally Posted By gainslit⏩
Yeah, this is well said.

I gotta get cut up for a beach vacation I have in like 6 months.... the problem I foresee is that i'll be a beach bloatlord due to all inclusive/copious eating/ drinking after the first day there. Will be be perma bloat.

I always look kinda cut when hungover though, chits weird. I guess it dehydrates u haha
Yep same. If you look shredded hung over you really are a lot closer to fit than you are bloat lord
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Originally Posted By plsmire⏩
37 and plan to get back in the best shape of my life when gyms reopen to non-vax.
Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Gotdamn, you still aren't able to go? Absurd.
Originally Posted By Redundanteater⏩
Wow man did not realize things are still that bad for UK brahs! Ouch.
UK gyms have been open toeverybodysince aprillast year.
Screw nature; my body will do what I DAMN WELL tell it to do!

The only dangerous thing about an exercise is the person doing it.

They had the technology to rebuild me. They made me better, stronger, faster......
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Originally Posted By gainslit⏩
How long do u fast for once a week ? I try and do Saturday / Sunday but end up eating around 2 always
24 hrs..but I fast not just for bodily health, but I do it to grow closer to God..try not to eat after sundown
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