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» Talking to a woman I'm not attracted to made me realize "game" is fake
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post 1671079853 11-11-2022, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By mvitz
This^

You dont need to do anything else.

I read about the PUA and all that other crap for a while because I wanted to understand what it was. Its pure nonsense and a hustle to get you to spend money on "their system".

Want to know the real key? SELF CONFIDENCE.

No need to play games or be a dick to them.Just chat them up and be charming. Women can tell in 5 seconds if you are uncomfortable around them.
I agree with this, but what do you usually talk about with randoms? My problem has never been socializing or keeping a conversation going, but rather starting up a conversation with someone at a bar or whatever. Like, when I'm in small social groups, I have no issues chatting people up, because we have something in common (i.e. we know the same person, which is why we're at this house party), but no luck coming up with something to say to strangers
post 1671080193 11-11-2022, 11:25 AM
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PUA has some legit info in it about being confident and the paradox of getting your act together first, then women will naturally gravitate towards you. Some of the manipulative stuff is silly, though.
post 1671088723 11-11-2022, 01:41 PM
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Game is just social skills, and being able to see through BS.
post 1671089403 11-11-2022, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By orangetide
Game is just social skills, and being able to see through BS.
It's moreso just charisma. Like if a really good-looking dude has women fawning upon him, some dudes might mistake that for game, but really it's just charisma from good-looks and humans wanting to spend more time around good-looking people. One of my friends is bang on average, maybe below average looking, but gets a lot of girls because he's the life of the party and makes people laugh. That's not game, it's again just charisma.

You can learn some "game", aka charisma, by working on yourself. If you're ugly, get into better shape and if you're autistic, try to be more personable/conversational. Beyond that, I agree with OP - either a girl likes you or she doesn't and there's not much you can do to change that. The biggest thing I've learned about women is they'll find a way to talk to you if they want to. If anything's going to happen, it's going to happen.
post 1671089663 11-11-2022, 01:53 PM
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I actually think this is probably true 75% of the time.

You could run into situations depending not only on the girl but the environment you meet her where she could intentionally play games with you even if attracted to you. But I would agree vast majority of the time if you have a normal conversation and it's flowing well and she's attracted to you there's really nothing special you need to do beyond that to ask her out.
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post 1671091713 11-11-2022, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
The big difference between women and men is that women also care about money/status. So yah you can “attract“ women with money/status but that does not mean she is actually attracted to you as a person.
Personality, humor, and character matter greatly for women, especially when it comes to relationships. Obviously it doesn't compensate for a lack of physical attraction.

But "game" in the sense of confidence, wit, etc, can short the time it takes to close the deal. That's it's main purpose
post 1671092803 11-11-2022, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted By imbeingcereal
It's moreso just charisma. Like if a really good-looking dude has women fawning upon him, some dudes might mistake that for game, but really it's just charisma from good-looks and humans wanting to spend more time around good-looking people. One of my friends is bang on average, maybe below average looking, but gets a lot of girls because he's the life of the party and makes people laugh. That's not game, it's again just charisma.

You can learn some "game", aka charisma, by working on yourself. If you're ugly, get into better shape and if you're autistic, try to be more personable/conversational. Beyond that, I agree with OP - either a girl likes you or she doesn't and there's not much you can do to change that. The biggest thing I've learned about women is they'll find a way to talk to you if they want to. If anything's going to happen, it's going to happen.
Yeah it's like when they study a really successful entrepreneur who was just being him or herself and they 'take out' what made that person successful and then you or I the autists try and emulate their style and paale on comparison, or just flat out fail.

When you're being yourself and are confident you will naturally neg girls, peacock, etc, and people will flock to you regardless - sometimes you'll piss them off, but it's just by accident.

Or like when 'ignore' or 'leave on read' - it's so obvious when it's done on purpose vs when you're just being yourself.
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post 1671092843 11-11-2022, 02:38 PM
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Yes, except you can still play or not.

Better off with a good job and network to facilitate
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