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03-03-2024, 05:10 PM
#61
Originally Posted By SlavaNaroda
Obviously, that could be appropriate for murder. But if you do that for robbery then now all robbers will graduate to murder by default since it would be irrational not to murdee the victim.
Possible but at least we'd get a lot more of the element off the streets permanently as well as being a larger deterrent. I think the net result would still equate to much lesser crime in the longer run.
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03-03-2024, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Explain why? If it's that hard for some people not to steal then I'm perfectly fine with them either being locked up for life or executed.
You're locking someone away for life for a non-violent offense.

Not to mention they're 18, so what if its their first offense?
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03-03-2024, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Maestro
You're locking someone away for life for a non-violent offense.

Not to mention they're 18, so what if its their first offense?
Thieving/robbery is one of the things that most makes a society unstable. I don't care if it's their first offense - at 18 they should know better. If they don't know better or, worse, they know better and don't care then I'm fine with them being imprisoned for life or executed. They have no value to me if they can't see the value in not being a thieving pos.

Not my fault some people have hard time teaching their children to obey simple rules in society.
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03-03-2024, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Thieving/robbery is one of the things that most makes a society unstable.
Yes, imagine a beach where there’s bullies who will kick down any sand castles they see. Obviously nobody will build any sand castles
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03-03-2024, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Thieving/robbery is one of the things that most makes a society unstable. I don't care if it's their first offense - at 18 they should know better. If they don't know better or, worse, they know better and don't care then I'm fine with them being imprisoned for life or executed. They have no value to me if they can't see the value in not being a thieving pos.

Not my fault some people have hard time teaching their children to obey simple rules in society.
One of the reasons why we save the harshest penalties for the most violent crimes is because its hard to frame someone for murder, but its VERY easy to frame someone of stealing especially if you don't like that person and you just want them to go away forever.

How much would it suck to live in a world where someone that doesn't like you can just slip an item into your jacket or grocery basket when you're not looking only to be tackled by police and thrown in jail forever.
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03-03-2024, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted By SlavaNaroda
It is cultural indoctrination. Starts very early at home. Parents strongly force their kids to have discipline, obey, and study.

OK, this is true. In fact, a little known fact about China is that the One-Party totalitarian state is actually a step-up in terms of totalitarian control that what was before there. SRS

They had dynasties with emperors and his administrators/governors who would do whatever they can.

If someone crossed the emperor, he can order an execution to the 9th degree etc.

But some would argue that culture is what comes from DNA?

You can argue that the behaviour that led to those structural constructs during dynastical rule and current to be driven.

DNA can determine culture and it can determine society.


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03-03-2024, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Maestro
One of the reasons why we save the harshest penalties for the most violent crimes is because its hard to frame someone for murder, but its VERY easy to frame someone of stealing especially if you don't like that person and you just want them to go away forever.

How much would it suck to live in a world where someone that doesn't like you can just slip an item into your jacket or grocery basket when you're not looking only to be tackled by police and thrown in jail forever.
There would be things to work out for sure, but my sentiment remains the same. Death/life imprisonment to any who cannot respect other people and their property and obey the simple laws of an organized, productive society.

And if you framed someone and got caught you will be executed immediately under my system which would lessen the occurrences of such things.
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03-03-2024, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
There would be things to work out for sure, but my sentiment remains the same. Death/life imprisonment to any who cannot respect other people and their property and obey the simple laws of an organized, productive society.

And if you framed someone and got caught you will be executed immediately under my system which would lessen the occurrences of such things.
Tbh. You'd probably end up getting yourself executed under your own system.

Not only do you lack basic empathy, but you also seem to be lacking in basic intelligence.
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03-03-2024, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze
Tbh. You'd probably end up getting yourself executed under your own system.

Not only do you lack basic empathy, but you also seem to be lacking in basic intelligence.
You’re still mad because you embarrassed yourself completely in the other thread lmao.

Tell us again how singers aren’t musicians l o l.
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03-03-2024, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
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Honestly, if you're so above all of the crime and degeneracy that you see in Oakland why haven't you managed to leave?

Even I managed to move out to a nicer area than I grew up in at one point and even now my parents have managed to buy a house with land for crops and chickens.

Maybe you should spend less of your money on consoomer electronics and TV's so you can get out of that chithole.




The only thing that separates you from the people you criticize so much is that you don't have a pair big enough to do anything worth getting in trouble with law enforcement. Otherwise your lack of empathy, poor reasoning, and low intelligence levels are on par with a violent criminal.
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03-03-2024, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze
Honestly, if you're so above all of the crime and degeneracy that you see in Oakland why haven't you managed to leave?

Even I managed to move out to a nicer area than I grew up in at one point and even now my parents have managed to buy a house with land for crops and chickens.

Maybe you should spend less of your money on consoomer electronics and TV's so you can get out of that chithole.




The only thing that separates you from the people you criticize so much is that you don't have a pair big enough to do anything worth getting in trouble with law enforcement. Otherwise your empathy, reasoning, and intelligence levels are on par with a violent criminal.
lmao tldr. but clearly you’re upset *again*.

tell us again how singers aren’t musicians. semantics right? lol.
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03-03-2024, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
lmao tldr. but clearly you’re upset *again*.

tell us again how singers aren’t musicians. semantics right? lol.
Not at all. I'm pointing out the inconsistency in your reasoning and why you choose to stay in a crime ridden city if you're so above all of the crime and degeneracy you see.

I hate that I have to talk to you like you're a toddler, but that feels like the best way to go about interacting with you.
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03-03-2024, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze
The only thing that separates you from the people you criticize so much is that you don't have a pair big enough to do anything worth getting in trouble with law enforcement. Otherwise your lack of empathy, poor reasoning, and low intelligence levels are on par with a violent criminal.
That's a pretty ridiculous thing to say.
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03-03-2024, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
There would be things to work out for sure, but my sentiment remains the same. Death/life imprisonment to any who cannot respect other people and their property and obey the simple laws of an organized, productive society.

And if you framed someone and got caught you will be executed immediately under my system which would lessen the occurrences of such things.
You realize this is what happens to people quite often when traveling to places like Indonesia and other nations with zero-tolerance for drugs? Someone just slips a little baggie of Pepsi into a travelers luggage, the next thing you know they're chained up in a gulag for 9 months, but in your world, they'd be in jail for life.

We're not Indonesia.
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03-03-2024, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze
Not at all. I'm pointing out the inconsistency in your reasoning and why you choose to stay in a crime ridden city if you're so above all of the crime and degeneracy you see.
Because unlike you I own property and my work, which is above whatever it is that you do that pays you so little, makes it very convenient to stay. The real estate market and interest rates, if you’ve noticed, aren’t exactly in a great place.

Tbh I use Oakland as an example but the majority of my criticism simply comes from pattern recognition. Sorry that offends you so much.

It’s not hard to above crime and degeneracy, Voidgaze. One simply need not partake in those activities.
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03-03-2024, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris
That's a pretty ridiculous thing to say.
Not really. Rollerball has made violent and hateful remarks toward several users, he does this often. He's also low in intelligence, and very obviously lacks empathy.

The only thing separating him from the violent criminals is that he hasn't committed a crime. Otherwise his IQ and reasoning skills are identical. The criminals and AA's he criticize lack empathy and intelligence just like he does. Actually a lot of miscers here do, it's just that no one notices because some of you are kind of the same.

If you're going to talk to me, at least articulate your points.
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03-03-2024, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Maestro
You realize this is what happens to people quite often when traveling to places like Indonesia and other nations with zero-tolerance for drugs? Someone just slips a little baggie of Pepsi into a travelers luggage, the next thing you know they're chained up in a gulag for 9 months, but in your world, they'd be in jail for life.

We're not Indonesia.
I get that, but also we’re not Indonesia in a lot of ways. Again there would be specifics and there would have to be some allowances for inconclusive evidence - you are correct there. However again my sentiment remains the same.
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03-03-2024, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze
Not really. Rollerball has made violent and hateful remarks toward several users, he does this often. He's also low in intelligence, and very obviously lacks empathy.

The only thing separating him from the violent criminals is that he hasn't committed a crime. Otherwise his IQ and reasoning skills are identical. The criminals and AA's he criticize lack empathy and intelligence just like he does. Actually a lot of miscers here do, it's just that no one notices because some of you are kind of the same.

If you're going to talk to me, at least articulate your points.
lmao all this because I embarrassed you in that other thread.

and lol at you using my comments to incellmaxxer as your example of my “violent threats”.

lol I really did a number on you today, little one.
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03-03-2024, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris
That's a pretty ridiculous thing to say.
Lmao he doesn’t even have the intelligence to understand how stupid that comment is either.
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03-03-2024, 05:44 PM
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Lmao he doesn’t even have the intelligence to understand how stupid that comment is either.
Well, are you intelligent enough to articulate why my comment is stupid? I can seem to do this, but you and Polaris haven't.

I believe you can, but maybe it's laziness rather than lack of intelligence (this is me giving you the benefit of the doubt btw).
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03-03-2024, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze
Well, are you intelligent enough to articulate why my comment is stupid? I can seem to do this, but you and Polaris haven't.
lmao because you’re admitting that’s how you think. it’s only your lack of “courage” that prevents you from committing serious crimes.

I have zero desire to do such lmao. Because I’m not steeped in your culture lol.

Again, tell us how singers aren’t musicians. You really shined in that other thread lmao.
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03-03-2024, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Maestro
No, they're not locked up for 10 years. Probably just a couple of days or a week, but the criminal record stays with them. I gave the example of "10 years" because that criminal record will follow them their entire life.
A misdemeanor record. You make it sound like people who went to jail for some weed, won't be able to find a job.
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03-03-2024, 05:59 PM
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03-03-2024, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Maestro
One of the reasons why we save the harshest penalties for the most violent crimes is because its hard to frame someone for murder, but its VERY easy to frame someone of stealing especially if you don't like that person and you just want them to go away forever.

How much would it suck to live in a world where someone that doesn't like you can just slip an item into your jacket or grocery basket when you're not looking only to be tackled by police and thrown in jail forever.
On the other hand, people aren't being punished for theft, and look what's happened as a result.
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03-03-2024, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
lmao because you’re admitting that’s how you think. it’s only your lack of “courage” that prevents you from committing serious crimes.

I have zero desire to do such lmao. Because I’m not steeped in your culture lol.

Again, tell us how singers aren’t musicians. You really shined in that other thread lmao.
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03-03-2024, 06:15 PM
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Whatever you say big dawg.
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03-03-2024, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Zelensky
>opens a theme park in a majority black area
>is surprised when there's violence

LMFAO

This EXACT scenario (letting joggers into theme parks en masse) has resulted in the closure of dozens of them across the country. Read this thread for examples:

https://twitter.com/herandrews/statu...39371105673453

You are legitimately retarded if you can't put 2+2 together at this point.
In fairness that Six Flags has been there long before it turned into a ghetto sh*t hole. They didn't open the theme park in a location where it was majority black. It became an area that is majority black
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03-03-2024, 06:19 PM
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Are you guys ready to get your new Jordans! Driving over to Six Flags area tomorrow night to get my fresh new pair of kicks!
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is six flags cheap? I thought parking + tickets made six flags pricey. How do all these kids have $50+ to spend?
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03-03-2024, 06:44 PM
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So glad I don't live amongst these violent thugs
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