Dude, you nailed it, I am fuming, definitely not having a laugh, so angry.

The majority of folks absolutely do. Look at sales and aggregated critic scores. This isn't even debatable, it's fact. You can say you feel differently but to ignore reality like Jay, Submissive, EOD, and the others in the misery love company group is just ignorant.

Calling someone gay is stealing lines? Fuk let me call 1990 and let them know.

non sequitur fallacy

try again, cum breath

Not necessarily, but stealing someone's lines, practically line for line is definitely stealing lines. lol How stupid are you really? You live near power lines as a kid, or something?

Paying more attention to your posts, I think we've found the missing link, lmfao.




I'll just leave this here and we'll see how long it takes for things to click for you.

Bottoming out is your joke? Fuk I've got to tell the entire internet.

Still waiting…

This is actually getting entertaining.

The absolute irony of jay using some leftist picture as a gotcha, when he goes around bitching and moaning on the misc with his passive aggressive threads about this section they hurt his wittle fweelings

The thing is, mgfgt is a leftist ideologue and at the very least is complicit, makes him part of the problem.

At least we finally all know where the anger you constantly display towards each one of my posts comes from. Just another person who clearly isn't triggered.

What a joke they are. Defending leftism while trying to "NO, U" leftist memes.

The left can't meme, nor can they even think up their own jokes apparently.

Gaming changed right after 2012. I'm playing The Witcher 3 and can't find anything to do in the game. Time to go back to Forza.

There is a big difference between more people buying chit and a golden era. Just because gaming is more mainstream than ever doesn't mean it's better than ever. Golden eras are defined by quality and impact, not sales statistics.

Part of it is nostalgia but gaming was definitely significantly better around 1994-2005. Give or take a couple years this was the peak. If people still played and talked about retro games it's all i would play srs. I just love the simplicity and creativity from that era.

This

Gaming is more mainstream now, sure. Which always results in the culture declining. One could say that retro games are ICONIC and will be remembered forever.

I think a good judge of that is how I can enjoy old games I have never played vs how I enjoy the latest games. Sure, I can enjoy the occasional new game, but there's loads of old games I will play for the first time and enjoy more than most games today. There's just so much stuff that they did better in the past or that you simply don't see today.

Well just look at how people define the golden age of movies and music genres. Sure, stuff today gets higher sales statistics, but everyone still considers specific past eras to have been the golden age due to a consistent feel and quality that was prevalent during an era.

@EOD What games from 94-05 stand out so much more than games now? Generalizing is all well and good but we had enough Cool Spot and Sub Zero: Mythologies to last a lifetime. There were plenty of stinkers back then too, to say otherwise is pretty goofy.

@Jay, which "older" games are you loading up for the first time and what are you comparing them to?

Sorry, but that's a bad take. You mentioned Halo and Halo is at the lowest it has ever been. Ever. The population on a game that was supposed to be a 10 endeavor is abysmal, it's an utter failure. The servers for the original Bungie games are offline, MCC is broken even when the bugs are weeded out because parts of the original games included in MCC are missing for some games. It's dead, dude. You cannot objectively compare current Halo to the era of Halo 3 and find that it is better now, than it was then.

It's not the lens of memory and nostalgia that you think people are looking through that is the draw to older stuff here. The memories and nostalgia are a direct result of the quality that was inherent in games and generations of yesteryear. That's simply not around in the degree, or capacity that they were found in back in the golden ages. On a large scale, the games of today are money pits and propaganda. Sure, there are gems here and there, a lot of them being remakes which are actually well done, as far as unique, new titles, the indie market is the king of that sort of thing because the people who work on the games are not beholden to Black Rock, they're focused on making the best game and achieving an artistic vision.

You may see it as a golden age today, but most people do not. I encounter people thinking that this is the best time in video games versus those who realize gaming is a hobby which has been infiltrated and brought to ruin on a ratio of one per one hundred respectively, in fact, that's a freebie, I don't know a single person in real life, or online that thinks this is the best it has ever been. The technology has certainly made leaps and bounds, but the quality of what runs on the technology is in the toilet.

The social aspect is also largely dead, with thought and speech policing implemented in an unprecedented way. There is no longer a new, true, original draw for enthusiasts, but addicts will buy and play anything to scratch the itch, but there is no discernment on their part, they're just dumb consumer whores. That's why retro gaming is so huge, that's why we're getting remakes, because the older stuff is higher quality and now the enthusiasts can play their favorites with new, upgraded graphics and sound.

I agree that COD and Forza are on top of their game right now. I love Halo Infinite but would take Halo 1-3 over it in a heartbeat. The OG Halo games are just more alpha srs. I don't know about Mario since i haven't played it in 25 years. I do think Nintendo makes some solid games still, but i seriously doubt they can match the SNES and N64 stuff.

Thing is there were literally hundreds of epic games from 1994-2005. They were still simple yet extremely fun and original concepts that grabbed your attention. I don't feel that way with any modern games. They are more of a chore than anything. Most of them are just money grabs too. They used to give you the full game and it had an honest rating.

I think what says it all is how I will just be chatting or listening to some random dudes that aren't really a gamer, the main topic of discussion won't even have anything to do with gaming, and they'll just bring up gaming and say something like "yeah, this just isn't good time for gaming right now, there's only a couple of games I like and most games just don't appeal to me" and might even start complaining about some of the trends and practices of today. Like no joke the only people I see trying to act like things are better than ever are just the odd message forum users like we got around here.

Their logic is basically "mo money and sales = better." By that logic Marvel movies should be considered peak cinema.

Yes that's exactly the problem with the logic. More money / sales = better is such a bad take. That's why I called that unhinged leftist cum guzzler out on his non sequitur fallacy. You hit the nail on the head.

More money / sales, therefore video games are better. lol wtf? Broken logic.

In the old days you would see ICON after ICON after ICON being released, where as now it's a sea of half assery, with a few winners here and there.

Is that why the population is abysmal?

10 year plan

lmfaooooooooooooooooo

Halo Infinite is very good. The gameplay is probably the best ever for a multiplayer FPS game. Most people will not budge on their opinions though and will probably never give it a chance. Then go back to their Fortnite or Helldivers.

Just watch Youtube best 100 Ps1/Ps2/Xbox/Dreamcast/N64 games and a lot of them will be on there. Not every game but probably half of them i loved.

Yeah I've been playing a lot of classic N64, PS1, DC, PS2, Gamecube, Xbox, 360, and PS3 era games. Heck a lot of Genesis and SNES stuff, and GB/GBC/GBA stuff along with DS/3DS. Then there's all the Windows 95-XP games I've been playing. So much of it is stuff I have never even played as well. Just way too much stuff to list off really.

That's the thing, it's pretty easy for people to list off their top games right now because there is only so much they could reference.

Yeah i rented on average 2 games per week from 1995-2005 and let me tell you i liked almost all of them. I haven't even played a new game since 2022 because there just isn't much that interests me. I mostly play a few Xbox games and that's it.

You can say that infinite is incredible compared to what it was initially, but that's not saying much.

The dedicated hardcore Halo fans started leaving because of 343's changes, which effectively altered the game and experience, see H4 and onward. Maybe the hardcore fans of the generic shooter called halo infinite stuck around for halo infinite, but not those of the Halo franchise.

I'm not aligning the player counts with a game being good, the player count is horrible because the game sucks and most people understand that and hold the same stance. A game being good is based on merit, which in turn leads to a genuine following, typically in high number.

You want to talk about fortnite, we need to introduce the nuance of social media and its influence in the demographics. I've never played fortnite and don't ever plan to, the art style is garbage and there's nothing unique about its look. Halo and Gears for example, started a genuine, grass roots following because the games had merit, they were quality, with fortnite, it's not the same.

Also, games like fortnite can thrive because there isn't much competition in that genre, like I said, Halo is dead. Was never a COD guy, but most hardcore COD players I know quit the franchise at some point and never turned back. Point being, if in the past, you released some of these once wildly successful franchises in the same state they are in today, they would not have succeeded because the audience was a lot more discerning.

EDIT: Diablo 4, DEAD, StarCraft, DEAD, lots of franchises are shells of their former selves.

Gaming is amazing, you guys sound like a bunch of depressed and jaded losers.