12-22-2003, 07:50 PM
#61
Originally posted by n00b13
Small people can't wrestle for 15 min and still have the strength to german suplex Lesner 3 times in a row.
Small people can't wrestle for 15 min and still have the strength to german suplex Lesner 3 times in a row.
The Mike Tyson / Benoit comparison is laughable to the extreme. Boxing is actually REAL. Boxing vs wrestling is a non issue. Boxing does not use crowd reaction to judge who will get the belt next. Right or wrong thats what happens in the WWE.
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12-22-2003, 11:27 PM
#62
Originally posted by Kane Fan
if you cannot keep up with me (and it is obvious you cannot) either expand your mental capabilities or stop reading my posts
or, kiss my ass
any of the 3 are acceptable
if you cannot keep up with me (and it is obvious you cannot) either expand your mental capabilities or stop reading my posts
or, kiss my ass
any of the 3 are acceptable
If you don't like it, just put me on ignore once again but continue to read my posts anyways, idiot.
12-23-2003, 12:39 AM
#63
I believe that Benoit weighs a legit 220. His announced weight has never deviated from that, in any company, and he has never really changed his size or look. That kind of consistency makes me believe it. And yes, I do think that Benoit should have gotten the title before Brock, like, two years ago when he faced the Rock for it… And BTW, I agree that Cena may get a slightly bigger pop than Benoit, but when has Cena ever gotten a standing ovation for his ring work?
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12-23-2003, 01:07 AM
#64
Originally posted by bboyremy
What 220=240 is supposed to mean? Are you saying that Chris Benoit weights 240lbs? LMAO I give him 200 AT MOST.
What 220=240 is supposed to mean? Are you saying that Chris Benoit weights 240lbs? LMAO I give him 200 AT MOST.
I watched him wrestle Brock Lesnar at ringside and I certainly wasn't unimpressed with his size, even in the ring with Brock. Just my impression of him.
He's a good 5'9'' 220lbs. Doesn't seem too small to me. As for credibility, well besides being amply big enough to impress the vast majority of people, he could tear the average guy on the street apart limb by limb.
This thread is a joke. Height doesn't make a great champion. As has already been pointed out … Bret Hart is 5'11'' … Shawn Michaels is 5'10 1/2'' … Flair is 5'11'' … Jericho is 5'9'' … Angle is 5'10''. There's your answer right there.
12-23-2003, 10:41 AM
#65
Originally posted by soleus
This is wrestling noob. I dont think Benoit would be able to German Suplex Brock if he was dead weight (i hope you know what dead weight is casue i aint explaining it). Brock uses his legs to help Benoit get him in the air.
The Mike Tyson / Benoit comparison is laughable to the extreme. Boxing is actually REAL. Boxing vs wrestling is a non issue. Boxing does not use crowd reaction to judge who will get the belt next. Right or wrong thats what happens in the WWE.
This is wrestling noob. I dont think Benoit would be able to German Suplex Brock if he was dead weight (i hope you know what dead weight is casue i aint explaining it). Brock uses his legs to help Benoit get him in the air.
The Mike Tyson / Benoit comparison is laughable to the extreme. Boxing is actually REAL. Boxing vs wrestling is a non issue. Boxing does not use crowd reaction to judge who will get the belt next. Right or wrong thats what happens in the WWE.
The boxing analogy is good you moron because they decide who gets title shots on their drawing ability. That's why you have the great white hope selling huge PPV, that's why Tyson will get 10 mil even though he's shot. Your pay(and the promoters) is bvased on sales so the want the biggest draws to fight even if they aren't 1 vs. 2
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12-23-2003, 10:54 AM
#66
Originally posted by jay81
He's a heck of a lot bigger than 200lbs.
I watched him wrestle Brock Lesnar at ringside and I certainly wasn't unimpressed with his size, even in the ring with Brock. Just my impression of him.
He's a good 5'9'' 220lbs. Doesn't seem too small to me. As for credibility, well besides being amply big enough to impress the vast majority of people, he could tear the average guy on the street apart limb by limb.
This thread is a joke. Height doesn't make a great champion. As has already been pointed out … Bret Hart is 5'11'' … Shawn Michaels is 5'10 1/2'' … Flair is 5'11'' … Jericho is 5'9'' … Angle is 5'10''. There's your answer right there.
He's a heck of a lot bigger than 200lbs.
I watched him wrestle Brock Lesnar at ringside and I certainly wasn't unimpressed with his size, even in the ring with Brock. Just my impression of him.
He's a good 5'9'' 220lbs. Doesn't seem too small to me. As for credibility, well besides being amply big enough to impress the vast majority of people, he could tear the average guy on the street apart limb by limb.
This thread is a joke. Height doesn't make a great champion. As has already been pointed out … Bret Hart is 5'11'' … Shawn Michaels is 5'10 1/2'' … Flair is 5'11'' … Jericho is 5'9'' … Angle is 5'10''. There's your answer right there.
12-23-2003, 10:57 AM
#67
Originally posted by n00b13
Your the noob because you mark out just because a guy is 6'5" and 270. "OMG he should be champ!!!!" . Benoit's endurance, strength, and known wrestling ability make him totally believeable as champ. Not to mention hecould legit kick the ass of 99% of the audience. I would love for you to be alone with Benoit in Stu Hart's dungeon and tell him you think he's crap because he's shorter than you.
The boxing analogy is good you moron because they decide who gets title shots on their drawing ability. That's why you have the great white hope selling huge PPV, that's why Tyson will get 10 mil even though he's shot. Your pay(and the promoters) is bvased on sales so the want the biggest draws to fight even if they aren't 1 vs. 2
Your the noob because you mark out just because a guy is 6'5" and 270. "OMG he should be champ!!!!" . Benoit's endurance, strength, and known wrestling ability make him totally believeable as champ. Not to mention hecould legit kick the ass of 99% of the audience. I would love for you to be alone with Benoit in Stu Hart's dungeon and tell him you think he's crap because he's shorter than you.
The boxing analogy is good you moron because they decide who gets title shots on their drawing ability. That's why you have the great white hope selling huge PPV, that's why Tyson will get 10 mil even though he's shot. Your pay(and the promoters) is bvased on sales so the want the biggest draws to fight even if they aren't 1 vs. 2
12-23-2003, 12:38 PM
#68
Originally posted by bboyremy
Even though he's a legit 220 pounds, he's still 5'9''. And yes, i'm 6' and he could tear me apart. But that doesn't mean he will get a run with the WWE title.
Even though he's a legit 220 pounds, he's still 5'9''. And yes, i'm 6' and he could tear me apart. But that doesn't mean he will get a run with the WWE title.
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12-23-2003, 08:45 PM
#69
Originally posted by n00b13
Your the noob because you mark out just because a guy is 6'5" and 270. "OMG he should be champ!!!!" . Benoit's endurance, strength, and known wrestling ability make him totally believeable as champ. Not to mention hecould legit kick the ass of 99% of the audience. I would love for you to be alone with Benoit in Stu Hart's dungeon and tell him you think he's crap because he's shorter than you.
The boxing analogy is good you moron because they decide who gets title shots on their drawing ability. That's why you have the great white hope selling huge PPV, that's why Tyson will get 10 mil even though he's shot. Your pay(and the promoters) is bvased on sales so the want the biggest draws to fight even if they aren't 1 vs. 2
Your the noob because you mark out just because a guy is 6'5" and 270. "OMG he should be champ!!!!" . Benoit's endurance, strength, and known wrestling ability make him totally believeable as champ. Not to mention hecould legit kick the ass of 99% of the audience. I would love for you to be alone with Benoit in Stu Hart's dungeon and tell him you think he's crap because he's shorter than you.
The boxing analogy is good you moron because they decide who gets title shots on their drawing ability. That's why you have the great white hope selling huge PPV, that's why Tyson will get 10 mil even though he's shot. Your pay(and the promoters) is bvased on sales so the want the biggest draws to fight even if they aren't 1 vs. 2
Regarding Benoit, i never said the guy couldnt wrestle. Find a quote of me saying Benoit is crap? Go on…do it! Your a fraud NOOB. The guy is the 2nd best wrestler behind Kurt Angle IMO. Benoit would kick me as* no doubt about it, but thats not the issue here NOOB. The issue is that he has no charisma and right or wrong thats what Vince wants in his wrestlers. I would love Benoit to be champ, it would be great, but its NOT going to happen.
Do you know anything about boxing? I dont think you do..do you NOOB? They dont decide who gets a shot at the title by "drawing" ability. Boxing is very political, but nevertheless, boxers earn there chance at the title by winning and becoming #1 contenders. There is the WBC,IBF,WBO,WBA,..the list goes on in terms on boxing Federations. In boxing they dont just throw anyone in the ring just for the sake of it (although in some cases it may appear that way). Please dont compare boxing to wrestling. One is real one is fake, and i am a fan of both.
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12-23-2003, 08:52 PM
#70
Originally posted by soleus
I wasnt flaming you NOOB. That is your name isnt it? NOOB?
NOOB.
NOOB. do you NOOB?
I wasnt flaming you NOOB. That is your name isnt it? NOOB?
NOOB.
NOOB. do you NOOB?
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12-23-2003, 11:42 PM
#71
Originally posted by n00b13
KaneFan you dumbass Benoit is heavier than Tyson. Tyson also fights guys that are 6'6" Tyson does have an aura about him because people shell out millions to watch him on PPV even though he hasn't had a good fight in years! Your such a fool sometimes. If anything in the WWE 220=240 when they advertise you. Holyfield weighs 218 and fights guys that are 30-50 lbs heavier than him and wins. I also find it highly credible that Eddie or Benoit can win the heavyweight title because they are strong enough to throw guys like Lesner around. Small people can't wrestle for 15 min and still have the strength to german suplex Lesner 3 times in a row.
KaneFan you dumbass Benoit is heavier than Tyson. Tyson also fights guys that are 6'6" Tyson does have an aura about him because people shell out millions to watch him on PPV even though he hasn't had a good fight in years! Your such a fool sometimes. If anything in the WWE 220=240 when they advertise you. Holyfield weighs 218 and fights guys that are 30-50 lbs heavier than him and wins. I also find it highly credible that Eddie or Benoit can win the heavyweight title because they are strong enough to throw guys like Lesner around. Small people can't wrestle for 15 min and still have the strength to german suplex Lesner 3 times in a row.
Tyson is noticably bigger then Benoit
Tyson's buyrates have been downright dissapointing of late
and the reason Tyson dosn't need an aura of recability is because he gets credability through actually defeating people (at least that's the theory havn't seen Mike put it into practice in recent memory)
so the comparision is quite flawed….
I enjoyed owning you tho so come back anytime
12-23-2003, 11:45 PM
#72
Originally posted by gjoe
Kane Fan i am not gonna trade barbs with you. That's not really my style. Your argument however was centred on the size of the individual wrestler and losing credibility if he's smaller than the average fan. it didn't speak to "aura". to paraphrase, You claimed that "smallness" reduced credibility yet my argument was that never for a second would you or most people you know would think you could beat Mike even at Mike's "small size". i based my arguments around your very words sir.
Kane Fan i am not gonna trade barbs with you. That's not really my style. Your argument however was centred on the size of the individual wrestler and losing credibility if he's smaller than the average fan. it didn't speak to "aura". to paraphrase, You claimed that "smallness" reduced credibility yet my argument was that never for a second would you or most people you know would think you could beat Mike even at Mike's "small size". i based my arguments around your very words sir.
Tyson dosn't need people to believe him a credible champ cus if he wins matches, he wins them
in pro wrestling it's scripted
knowing that a champ (or any wrestler really) has to be able to suspend someone's disbeleif
the smaller someone is the more difficult this is for them
Spike dudley will be a believable champion exacly, NEVER
it's just something that has to be accepted
lack of size DOES reduce credability in pro wrestling (scripted)
as it does in boxing (weight classes)
the example was flawed and I have soundly defeated it
12-23-2003, 11:48 PM
#73
Originally posted by soleus
This is wrestling noob. I dont think Benoit would be able to German Suplex Brock if he was dead weight (i hope you know what dead weight is casue i aint explaining it). Brock uses his legs to help Benoit get him in the air.
The Mike Tyson / Benoit comparison is laughable to the extreme. Boxing is actually REAL. Boxing vs wrestling is a non issue. Boxing does not use crowd reaction to judge who will get the belt next. Right or wrong thats what happens in the WWE.
This is wrestling noob. I dont think Benoit would be able to German Suplex Brock if he was dead weight (i hope you know what dead weight is casue i aint explaining it). Brock uses his legs to help Benoit get him in the air.
The Mike Tyson / Benoit comparison is laughable to the extreme. Boxing is actually REAL. Boxing vs wrestling is a non issue. Boxing does not use crowd reaction to judge who will get the belt next. Right or wrong thats what happens in the WWE.
for devliering me someone who knwos WHAT THE **** I AM SAYING
just a few minor problems with your post but nothing major
if Brock was helping Benoit he wouldn't be dead weight :P
but even if he was flips throws etc are easy in that case as Benoit is shorter then Brock German Suplexing him is relativly easy
and the other thing, boxing is usually real but often scripted lol
otherwise yes thank you for understanding wtf I was saying
12-23-2003, 11:49 PM
#74
Originally posted by Arsehole
Yeah, its that obvious - I mean, you always provide great arguments and rebuttals. You never act like a child when trying to prove a point, and I simply cannot compete with, or keep up with, your superior debating skills
If you don't like it, just put me on ignore once again but continue to read my posts anyways, idiot.
Yeah, its that obvious - I mean, you always provide great arguments and rebuttals. You never act like a child when trying to prove a point, and I simply cannot compete with, or keep up with, your superior debating skills
If you don't like it, just put me on ignore once again but continue to read my posts anyways, idiot.
I certainly destroyed the Tyson/Benoit comparision lil kid
I can destroy any arguemnt you want to make to if you want to actually make one
instead of calling me names but as your mind is only capable of so much I won't expect a logical argument from you
run along now there is some traffic you should be playing in
12-23-2003, 11:52 PM
#75
Originally posted by jay81
He's a heck of a lot bigger than 200lbs.
I watched him wrestle Brock Lesnar at ringside and I certainly wasn't unimpressed with his size, even in the ring with Brock. Just my impression of him.
He's a good 5'9'' 220lbs. Doesn't seem too small to me. As for credibility, well besides being amply big enough to impress the vast majority of people, he could tear the average guy on the street apart limb by limb.
This thread is a joke. Height doesn't make a great champion. As has already been pointed out … Bret Hart is 5'11'' … Shawn Michaels is 5'10 1/2'' … Flair is 5'11'' … Jericho is 5'9'' … Angle is 5'10''. There's your answer right there.
He's a heck of a lot bigger than 200lbs.
I watched him wrestle Brock Lesnar at ringside and I certainly wasn't unimpressed with his size, even in the ring with Brock. Just my impression of him.
He's a good 5'9'' 220lbs. Doesn't seem too small to me. As for credibility, well besides being amply big enough to impress the vast majority of people, he could tear the average guy on the street apart limb by limb.
This thread is a joke. Height doesn't make a great champion. As has already been pointed out … Bret Hart is 5'11'' … Shawn Michaels is 5'10 1/2'' … Flair is 5'11'' … Jericho is 5'9'' … Angle is 5'10''. There's your answer right there.
wich makes up for thier lacking size (Kurt also has a Gold Medal wich helps a good deal to) and Flair is a freaking Icon by now
Benoit lacks size, and Charisma…
I'm not real worried about size, but his lack of Charisma is enough to make me want to cry when I see him going for a mic!
12-23-2003, 11:54 PM
#76
Originally posted by n00b13
Your the noob because you mark out just because a guy is 6'5" and 270. "OMG he should be champ!!!!" . Benoit's endurance, strength, and known wrestling ability make him totally believeable as champ. Not to mention hecould legit kick the ass of 99% of the audience. I would love for you to be alone with Benoit in Stu Hart's dungeon and tell him you think he's crap because he's shorter than you.
The boxing analogy is good you moron because they decide who gets title shots on their drawing ability. That's why you have the great white hope selling huge PPV, that's why Tyson will get 10 mil even though he's shot. Your pay(and the promoters) is bvased on sales so the want the biggest draws to fight even if they aren't 1 vs. 2
Your the noob because you mark out just because a guy is 6'5" and 270. "OMG he should be champ!!!!" . Benoit's endurance, strength, and known wrestling ability make him totally believeable as champ. Not to mention hecould legit kick the ass of 99% of the audience. I would love for you to be alone with Benoit in Stu Hart's dungeon and tell him you think he's crap because he's shorter than you.
The boxing analogy is good you moron because they decide who gets title shots on their drawing ability. That's why you have the great white hope selling huge PPV, that's why Tyson will get 10 mil even though he's shot. Your pay(and the promoters) is bvased on sales so the want the biggest draws to fight even if they aren't 1 vs. 2
he never said he could kick Benoit's ass because he was short
also I'd be perfectly willing to tell Benoit he wsan't any good if I thought that
I'd also take him on in submission wrestling
if you read Kurt Angle's book you'd know Benoit is actually not very good at real grappling (then again having Kurt say someone isn't very good is kinda like having Shaq call you short)
the boxing analogy is NOT good
this has been covered numerous times you are either smart enough to pick up on it or you are not…
12-23-2003, 11:55 PM
#77
Originally posted by HardGainer82
No, it doesn't mean he will. But he SHOULD.
No, it doesn't mean he will. But he SHOULD.
I dont' think his title run should be LONG but I think he has put in enough time and has enough skill to Garner a 2 or 3 month title run
12-24-2003, 10:52 AM
#78
Originally posted by bboyremy
I think he called you noob because that's your username…
I think he called you noob because that's your username…
12-24-2003, 11:46 PM
#79
Originally posted by Kane Fan
THANK YOU GOD
for devliering me someone who knwos WHAT THE **** I AM SAYING
just a few minor problems with your post but nothing major
if Brock was helping Benoit he wouldn't be dead weight :P
but even if he was flips throws etc are easy in that case as Benoit is shorter then Brock German Suplexing him is relativly easy
and the other thing, boxing is usually real but often scripted lol
otherwise yes thank you for understanding wtf I was saying
THANK YOU GOD
for devliering me someone who knwos WHAT THE **** I AM SAYING
just a few minor problems with your post but nothing major
if Brock was helping Benoit he wouldn't be dead weight :P
but even if he was flips throws etc are easy in that case as Benoit is shorter then Brock German Suplexing him is relativly easy
and the other thing, boxing is usually real but often scripted lol
otherwise yes thank you for understanding wtf I was saying
I am not sure if you meant to say "If Brock WASNT helping benoit"
What i was refering to is that if Brock WAS dead weight then Benoit would have a heck of a time performing THREE german suplexes on Brock. But in the WWE there isnt dead weight thus Benoit can and does perform these moves on the big guys. Thus the comparison between a REAL sport like Boxing, compared to a staged event like the WWE. Thats what NOOB fails to understand. I cant imagine Tyson and Holyfield in the back saying
"Ok Mike, I will come in close and we will clash heads, you will get all angry and then you will bite my ear"
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12-24-2003, 11:54 PM
#80
Originally posted by Kane Fan
what are you illiterate?
he never said he could kick Benoit's ass because he was short
also I'd be perfectly willing to tell Benoit he wsan't any good if I thought that
I'd also take him on in submission wrestling
if you read Kurt Angle's book you'd know Benoit is actually not very good at real grappling (then again having Kurt say someone isn't very good is kinda like having Shaq call you short)
the boxing analogy is NOT good
this has been covered numerous times you are either smart enough to pick up on it or you are not…
what are you illiterate?
he never said he could kick Benoit's ass because he was short
also I'd be perfectly willing to tell Benoit he wsan't any good if I thought that
I'd also take him on in submission wrestling
if you read Kurt Angle's book you'd know Benoit is actually not very good at real grappling (then again having Kurt say someone isn't very good is kinda like having Shaq call you short)
the boxing analogy is NOT good
this has been covered numerous times you are either smart enough to pick up on it or you are not…
I have read Angles book a few times and yes Angle does say Benoit isnt as good as himself, but with a year of training he could be good.
KaneFan this NOOB has NFI about wrestling…he probably thinks Terry Funk is some kind of porn star.
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12-25-2003, 12:48 AM
#81
Originally posted by soleus
Kane
I cant imagine Tyson and Holyfield in the back saying
"Ok Mike, I will come in close and we will clash heads, you will get all angry and then you will bite my ear"
Kane
I cant imagine Tyson and Holyfield in the back saying
"Ok Mike, I will come in close and we will clash heads, you will get all angry and then you will bite my ear"
12-25-2003, 03:19 AM
#82
Originally posted by Kane Fan
actually kiddy just to correct
Tyson is noticably bigger then Benoit
Tyson's buyrates have been downright dissapointing of late
and the reason Tyson dosn't need an aura of recability is because he gets credability through actually defeating people (at least that's the theory havn't seen Mike put it into practice in recent memory)
so the comparision is quite flawed….
I enjoyed owning you tho so come back anytime
actually kiddy just to correct
Tyson is noticably bigger then Benoit
Tyson's buyrates have been downright dissapointing of late
and the reason Tyson dosn't need an aura of recability is because he gets credability through actually defeating people (at least that's the theory havn't seen Mike put it into practice in recent memory)
so the comparision is quite flawed….
I enjoyed owning you tho so come back anytime
Tyson at 5'11'' is a couple of inches taller than Benoit but in his prime he fought at around 218 with a 43'' chest & 16'' arms and wasn't anywhere near as ripped as Benoit. Benoit is a lot bigger than that although Tyson is probably wider due to his larger frame ( Benoit has a fairly narrow clavicle if you've noticed ) and probably has an even larger neck.
12-25-2003, 08:23 PM
#83
Originally posted by soleus
Kane
I am not sure if you meant to say "If Brock WASNT helping benoit"
What i was refering to is that if Brock WAS dead weight then Benoit would have a heck of a time performing THREE german suplexes on Brock. But in the WWE there isnt dead weight thus Benoit can and does perform these moves on the big guys. Thus the comparison between a REAL sport like Boxing, compared to a staged event like the WWE. Thats what NOOB fails to understand. I cant imagine Tyson and Holyfield in the back saying
"Ok Mike, I will come in close and we will clash heads, you will get all angry and then you will bite my ear"
Kane
I am not sure if you meant to say "If Brock WASNT helping benoit"
What i was refering to is that if Brock WAS dead weight then Benoit would have a heck of a time performing THREE german suplexes on Brock. But in the WWE there isnt dead weight thus Benoit can and does perform these moves on the big guys. Thus the comparison between a REAL sport like Boxing, compared to a staged event like the WWE. Thats what NOOB fails to understand. I cant imagine Tyson and Holyfield in the back saying
"Ok Mike, I will come in close and we will clash heads, you will get all angry and then you will bite my ear"
like I saw one match I can't remember who was invovled but it was obvious the one guy got robbed on decission
and there was that one big match I can't remember who was invovled but it came out a draw and obviously some judges were in someone's pocket cus the fight was one sided from round one
12-25-2003, 08:25 PM
#84
I'm talking NOW not when Tyson was lean as hell in his early years
Tyson is noticably bigger then Benoit right now
Tyson is noticably bigger then Benoit right now
12-25-2003, 09:16 PM
#85
Originally posted by Kane Fan
I'm talking NOW not when Tyson was lean as hell in his early years
Tyson is noticably bigger then Benoit right now
I'm talking NOW not when Tyson was lean as hell in his early years
Tyson is noticably bigger then Benoit right now
Nah, he last fought in February at 226 … normally walks around at about 230. On his last tale of the tape he only had 17'' arms and a 43'' - 44'' chest. He's taller than Benoit and has a larger frame but he's not '' bigger ''.
12-25-2003, 09:21 PM
#86
Originally posted by Kane Fan
no, no but I have seen matches that I'm pretty sure were rigged
like I saw one match I can't remember who was invovled but it was obvious the one guy got robbed on decission
and there was that one big match I can't remember who was invovled but it came out a draw and obviously some judges were in someone's pocket cus the fight was one sided from round one
no, no but I have seen matches that I'm pretty sure were rigged
like I saw one match I can't remember who was invovled but it was obvious the one guy got robbed on decission
and there was that one big match I can't remember who was invovled but it came out a draw and obviously some judges were in someone's pocket cus the fight was one sided from round one
12-25-2003, 10:06 PM
#87
Originally posted by jay81
Nah, he last fought in February at 226 … normally walks around at about 230. On his last tale of the tape he only had 17'' arms and a 43'' - 44'' chest. He's taller than Benoit and has a larger frame but he's not '' bigger ''.
Nah, he last fought in February at 226 … normally walks around at about 230. On his last tale of the tape he only had 17'' arms and a 43'' - 44'' chest. He's taller than Benoit and has a larger frame but he's not '' bigger ''.
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12-25-2003, 10:39 PM
#88
Originally posted by Kane Fan
I'd also take him on in submission wrestling
if you read Kurt Angle's book you'd know Benoit is actually not very good at real grappling (then again having Kurt say someone isn't very good is kinda like having Shaq call you short)
I'd also take him on in submission wrestling
if you read Kurt Angle's book you'd know Benoit is actually not very good at real grappling (then again having Kurt say someone isn't very good is kinda like having Shaq call you short)
12-25-2003, 10:55 PM
#89
Originally posted by soleus
I dont want to get into a height debate with you, but Tyson is all of about a 1/2 inch taller than Benoit. Forget what people say about Tyson, he is 5'10 1/2 MAX. Tyson in his early yrs was BIGGER than Benoit. I have 6 of Tysons first 10 fights on tape and he was a tank. Benoit is let down by his narrow frame where Tyson has the broad shoulders. Benoit is a thick individual and might be bigger than Tyson today. IF a fight was to break out i know who i would want in my corner…Tyson!
I dont want to get into a height debate with you, but Tyson is all of about a 1/2 inch taller than Benoit. Forget what people say about Tyson, he is 5'10 1/2 MAX. Tyson in his early yrs was BIGGER than Benoit. I have 6 of Tysons first 10 fights on tape and he was a tank. Benoit is let down by his narrow frame where Tyson has the broad shoulders. Benoit is a thick individual and might be bigger than Tyson today. IF a fight was to break out i know who i would want in my corner…Tyson!
You could be right about his height. In the early years he was listed as 5'11 1/2'' although these days it's always 5'11'' ( probably because he used to have hair lol! ) … anyway 5'11'' / 180cm is what they always have him as these days. Benoit is no more than 5'9''.
I've got quite a few of Tyson's early fights on tape too but he was only around 218lbs in them. Tyson is slightly taller, his frame is bigger … he's got a thicker neck and possibly larger legs ( I've never really seen Benoit's legs ) but Benoit definitely has him at anytime on arm / chest / delt size.
I agree Tyson would win a real fight between the two, with ease.
12-26-2003, 06:47 AM
#90
Originally posted by soleus
Do you know anything about boxing? I dont think you do..do you NOOB? They dont decide who gets a shot at the title by "drawing" ability. Boxing is very political, but nevertheless, boxers earn there chance at the title by winning and becoming #1 contenders. There is the WBC,IBF,WBO,WBA,..the list goes on in terms on boxing Federations. In boxing they dont just throw anyone in the ring just for the sake of it (although in some cases it may appear that way). Please dont compare boxing to wrestling. One is real one is fake, and i am a fan of both.
Do you know anything about boxing? I dont think you do..do you NOOB? They dont decide who gets a shot at the title by "drawing" ability. Boxing is very political, but nevertheless, boxers earn there chance at the title by winning and becoming #1 contenders. There is the WBC,IBF,WBO,WBA,..the list goes on in terms on boxing Federations. In boxing they dont just throw anyone in the ring just for the sake of it (although in some cases it may appear that way). Please dont compare boxing to wrestling. One is real one is fake, and i am a fan of both.
KANEFAN you knob jockey it's obvious you don't know ANYTHING about boxing
" When that guy fought that other guy and waz robbed that time"
Son if you don't know WTF you are talking about the STFU! I like logic how if there is one instance in the known universe of something being contradictory to what someone wrote then that means their argument isn't valid and you own them. You have never owned anyone on this board ever! In fact the only thing you own is your poor knob that you ruthlessly abuse while sniffing Kane's sweaty drawers that you bought on Ebay.
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