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Originally Posted By sirrancelot⏩
I never understood why parents do this. Why tell your kid that you love right after a spanking/beating? Not picking you out, but both of my parents did this after some beatings. I remember after my dad gave me the extension cord he made me tell him that I loved him. Like why??I also always follow up and make sure she understands the reasoning and let her know that I love her and use spanking as a teaching tool, not just because I'm mad.
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Originally Posted By davik⏩
Amazing insightful reply, i will definitely take into consideration your well thought out ideas.lol im listening to dan pena. hes right. me included and most likely you, are pussies because our parents were pussies and so on. youre pretty much asking for you future daughter to be sucking cock at 13 and your son to be a beta dip****, because youll kiss their ass when they **** up
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Spanked my 3 kids, all 3 very well adjusted adults, educations and actual careers, or at least well established paths. Admittedly, more often with the first, but always (and, so, it was not at all frequent) as the result of them doing something they clearly understood was wrong. Each got less than the one before, I admit and don’t know why, less hardass, better examples and assistance from their older siblings, or what.
Bottom line errrrrr anyways 100% would do again, but I think saying derogatory things as a parent to any kid is literally worse than all but a true beating. I always tried to build their confidence.
Bottom line errrrrr anyways 100% would do again, but I think saying derogatory things as a parent to any kid is literally worse than all but a true beating. I always tried to build their confidence.
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
One thing I've learned from being in healthcare: there's always a manipulative end goal.Unfortunately, a conflating variable not reasonably discussed is that low income tends to lean toward corporal punishment whereas rich people tend to lean away from it. Socioeconomic factors are what determine outcomes, not corporal punishment.
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Imma lick my hand before I spank my kids
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11-05-2018, 09:15 PM
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I think there’s way too many variables in play to say one way or the other....
Are we combining the real abusive parents who beat up their kids just because with the ones who pull out a little swat on the bottom once in a blue moon?
Are we combining the real abusive parents who beat up their kids just because with the ones who pull out a little swat on the bottom once in a blue moon?
11-05-2018, 09:19 PM
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Worthless anecdotal evidence running amok itt as it always does in this discussion. It's your kids, as long as youre within the law, discipline as you see fit and ignore all the studies on the subject if you wish, but pretending that spanking or lack thereof is the difference between a well adjusted adult or a criminal is hilarious to me. Plenty of people in prison, dare i say the majority, were spanked.
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Originally Posted By veggie530⏩
Well, I thought it was funny the advice was from American doctors. "Don't slap your kid to control them, that's wrong, but you can give them the drugs we prescribe."One thing I've learned from being in healthcare: there's always a manipulative end goal.
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11-05-2018, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted By MiamiLife305⏩
Pretty much.Yeah im not hitting my child ever.
Feel bad for those that think you need to beat a kid for them to listen.
My dad never laid a finger on me, and guess what? Whenever he raised his voice I immediately shut up and listened. Why? Because I knew once it got to the point my dad had to get invovled I knew I was in the wrong.
Just lmao @ idiots who constantly beat their kids. Its like the sheep that cried wolf, after a few times you get over it and ignore it. My mom would try to beat me as a kid and I began to realize it was for stupid reasons and began to not give a fuk about her getting mad with me.
Feel bad for those that think you need to beat a kid for them to listen.
My dad never laid a finger on me, and guess what? Whenever he raised his voice I immediately shut up and listened. Why? Because I knew once it got to the point my dad had to get invovled I knew I was in the wrong.
Just lmao @ idiots who constantly beat their kids. Its like the sheep that cried wolf, after a few times you get over it and ignore it. My mom would try to beat me as a kid and I began to realize it was for stupid reasons and began to not give a fuk about her getting mad with me.
I know plenty of well adjusted hard working adults who were never hit growing up. Stable lives, long relationships, good friends, great relationships with their children.
I also know plenty of well adjusted hard working adults who were spanked growing up. Stable lives, long relationships, good friends, great relationships with their children.
If I can raise a well adjusted hard working adult either way, why the FUK am I going to choose the route that has me fuking hitting them?
Legally I can't hit my wife for acting up. Can't hit some rando on the street. Can't smack my parent. Can't smack my employer.
But I can legally smack the chit out of my child? Hard pass.
Hitting is the lazy way out when it comes to parenting imo. Much the same as hitting a dog.
I have 2 dogs. My older one I would smack the chit out of because that's how my dogs were raised growing up as a kid. As I got into training with her, my eyes were opened to the fact that you can get a dog to do whatever, and correct any behavior, without hitting them.
My second dog I have never hit in her life.
Both of them follow commands and are big loveable pupples.
However when I get pissed off and raise my voice my first dog tucks her tail and looks afraid, if I move too quickly sometimes she will duck her hind end (even thougH I haven't hit her in years) as if a blow is coming.
My second dog doesn't display any of this behavior, She basically just stops whatever she is doing and sits down and looks at me.
Seeing my first dog react that way breaks my heart sometimes.
I ****ing never want my child to be fearful of me, or afraid that a blow is going to come.
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Originally Posted By nm1891⏩
There's PLENTY of studies that show what I wrote in my original post.Worthless anecdotal evidence running amok itt as it always does in this discussion. It's your kids, as long as youre within the law, discipline as you see fit and ignore all the studies on the subject if you wish, but pretending that spanking or lack thereof is the difference between a well adjusted adult or a criminal is hilarious to me. Plenty of people in prison, dare i say the majority, were spanked.
Violence teaches violence and makes kids into liars who don't trust their parents.
It's well known and logical.
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I used to think spanking was the answer, but after going through a masters and reading through tons of science I'm now probably never going to spank. This is related to my profession.
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Originally Posted By AndroidKami⏩
I actually think that's a brilliant hypothesis.Your daughter is going to develop a butt spanking fetish when she grows up. Whenever someone is balls deep, hitting it from behind she will yell “spank me harder daddy!”. Thanks to you. Great parenting skills, dad.
I knew a girl who told me her dad used to beat the living chit out of her at times (literally slamming her head into a table one day, when eating breakfast). She loved to get slapped, choked and spanked during sex - she openly told me she likes 'older men' too.
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Originally Posted By DanielleGreen⏩
If I had to guess, for your parents it was probably guilt.I never understood why parents do this. Why tell your kid that you love right after a spanking/beating? Not picking you out, but both of my parents did this after some beatings. I remember after my dad gave me the extension cord he made me tell him that I loved him. Like why??
Unless they have a really nasty psychology, and the intended affect was trauma bonding.
"Traumatic bonding occurs as the result of ongoing cycles of abuse in which the intermittent reinforcement of reward and punishment creates powerful emotional bonds that are resistant to change"
"Although the victim may disclose the abuse, the trauma bond means that the victim may wish to receive comfort from the very person who abused them."
Unhealthy, or traumatic, bonding occurs between people in an abusive relationship. The bond is stronger for people who have grown up in abusive households because it seems to them to be a normal part of relationships."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traumatic_bonding
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Originally Posted By SpeedMan1⏩
Based on the research, that most likely is why you turned out decent than being spanked.I grew up in a stable home
Have you checked out the stats on the outcomes of kids of single mother + low income households?
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Only time i see little chits behave properly, is when a black/hispanic woman takes off her shoe in walmart and threatens to beat the crap out of them.
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stopped spanking my kids as it was useless, only makes them angry and temporary obedient, don't want them to resent me, can do just fine with better outcome without hitting them
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Originally Posted By DanielleGreen⏩
To make him feel better about himself for beating his child.I never understood why parents do this. Why tell your kid that you love right after a spanking/beating? Not picking you out, but both of my parents did this after some beatings. I remember after my dad gave me the extension cord he made me tell him that I loved him. Like why??
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I'm gonna buy my kids video games and let them eat junk food when they misbehave
turn them into 200lb fat nerdy foreveralones
that'll teach them a lesson. 20 years later. huehuehuehue
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Originally Posted By KyleAaron⏩
I think you're onto something. Don't spank your kids because we have pills you can use instead lolWell, I thought it was funny the advice was from American doctors. "Don't slap your kid to control them, that's wrong, but you can give them the drugs we prescribe."
Yeah, okay.
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Originally Posted By Scooty56⏩
90% agree.Kids that don't get hit are the worst type of people when they get older SRS.
Just to clarify. Those who don't get appropriately spanked for serious offenses, rather, get "redirected".
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Just because we've been doing one thing for forever doesn't mean we have to do it the same. I'm pretty sure almost everyone in prison was spanked, and that didn't magically fix their behavior. Kids I grew up with that were chits were still spanked. It isn't the be all end all of discipline.
Know what I hated more than spanking? Punishment (grounded for the white folks). I can't watch TV? Can't play outside? Can't play my gameboy? That chit was torture. I would take the belt over that any day, and my mom would use a braided belt or switch (very thin branch pulled off a bush for the unaware).
I may spank as a last resort or in extreme situations, but I think I'll be more effective if I can be more creative with punishments. I'm talking carrying water buckets around the house in laps, push ups till his arms won't move, replace his dinner with gruel. Fuk, I wanna use my imagination with this chit.
Know what I hated more than spanking? Punishment (grounded for the white folks). I can't watch TV? Can't play outside? Can't play my gameboy? That chit was torture. I would take the belt over that any day, and my mom would use a braided belt or switch (very thin branch pulled off a bush for the unaware).
I may spank as a last resort or in extreme situations, but I think I'll be more effective if I can be more creative with punishments. I'm talking carrying water buckets around the house in laps, push ups till his arms won't move, replace his dinner with gruel. Fuk, I wanna use my imagination with this chit.
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Originally Posted By sirrancelot⏩
Similar.I spank my child. Did tonight, actually. I don't spank her nearly as often as I was spanked but I also don't think she is quite the little **** I was at her age lol. It's my last resort as a disciplinary tool, but I refuse to take it out of the arsenal.
I took some nice beatings as a kid and I swear I deserved every one and never wondered if my parents loved me.
I took some nice beatings as a kid and I swear I deserved every one and never wondered if my parents loved me.
What are you supposed to do when you're trying time out and the kid refuses to comply? Just put them back in the chair over and over for hours?
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985⏩
Their favorite toys? Take that chit. Take away what they enjoy most until they act right. You were a kid once. Did you prefer a spanking, or getting grounded?Similar.
What are you supposed to do when you're trying time out and the kid refuses to comply? Just put them back in the chair over and over for hours?
What are you supposed to do when you're trying time out and the kid refuses to comply? Just put them back in the chair over and over for hours?
As for time out, it isn't my thing really. If I chose to do it though, the I would physically keep my kid their until they calmed the fuk down. Fuka re they gonna do? Overpower me? lol
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
My mother used to make my older siblings wear mismatched clothes and shoes in public as a punishment. I was too young to remember but that's funny as fuk.Just because we've been doing one thing for forever doesn't mean we have to do it the same. I'm pretty sure almost everyone in prison was spanked, and that didn't magically fix their behavior. Kids I grew up with that were chits were still spanked. It isn't the be all end all of discipline.
Know what I hated more than spanking? Punishment (grounded for the white folks). I can't watch TV? Can't play outside? Can't play my gameboy? That chit was torture. I would take the belt over that any day, and my mom would use a braided belt or switch (very thin branch pulled off a bush for the unaware).
I may spank as a last resort or in extreme situations, but I think I'll be more effective if I can be more creative with punishments. I'm talking carrying water buckets around the house in laps, push ups till his arms won't move, replace his dinner with gruel. Fuk, I wanna use my imagination with this chit.
Know what I hated more than spanking? Punishment (grounded for the white folks). I can't watch TV? Can't play outside? Can't play my gameboy? That chit was torture. I would take the belt over that any day, and my mom would use a braided belt or switch (very thin branch pulled off a bush for the unaware).
I may spank as a last resort or in extreme situations, but I think I'll be more effective if I can be more creative with punishments. I'm talking carrying water buckets around the house in laps, push ups till his arms won't move, replace his dinner with gruel. Fuk, I wanna use my imagination with this chit.
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This isn't the fist time they've done a study on this with the same results.
I was definitely spanked as a kid and always thought it was the only way, but for me I think I plan on using it as a last resort. 1st teach right from wrong and set a positive example 2nd reward positive and discourage bad behaviors and then lastly if I see my kid consciously making the wrong decision spank them to more aggressively discourage said behavior. I don't think it should be a regular form of parenting, but I think to some degree it's necessary
I was definitely spanked as a kid and always thought it was the only way, but for me I think I plan on using it as a last resort. 1st teach right from wrong and set a positive example 2nd reward positive and discourage bad behaviors and then lastly if I see my kid consciously making the wrong decision spank them to more aggressively discourage said behavior. I don't think it should be a regular form of parenting, but I think to some degree it's necessary
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
ThisJust because we've been doing one thing for forever doesn't mean we have to do it the same. I'm pretty sure almost everyone in prison was spanked, and that didn't magically fix their behavior. Kids I grew up with that were chits were still spanked. It isn't the be all end all of discipline.
Know what I hated more than spanking? Punishment (grounded for the white folks). I can't watch TV? Can't play outside? Can't play my gameboy? That chit was torture. I would take the belt over that any day, and my mom would use a braided belt or switch (very thin branch pulled off a bush for the unaware).
I may spank as a last resort or in extreme situations, but I think I'll be more effective if I can be more creative with punishments. I'm talking carrying water buckets around the house in laps, push ups till his arms won't move, replace his dinner with gruel. Fuk, I wanna use my imagination with this chit.
Know what I hated more than spanking? Punishment (grounded for the white folks). I can't watch TV? Can't play outside? Can't play my gameboy? That chit was torture. I would take the belt over that any day, and my mom would use a braided belt or switch (very thin branch pulled off a bush for the unaware).
I may spank as a last resort or in extreme situations, but I think I'll be more effective if I can be more creative with punishments. I'm talking carrying water buckets around the house in laps, push ups till his arms won't move, replace his dinner with gruel. Fuk, I wanna use my imagination with this chit.
My mom would make my brother and I sit in a plastic chair in the living room unable to get up or do anything else
Cant remember how long it was for though, chit was terrible
Beat me with a belt anyday
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