He had enough social skills and was attractive enough to get your attention. My point is the average guy doesn't have women falling in love with him like you expect. The number of miscers that have actually had a woman fall in love with them is lower than you think. The young love we both experienced is not the norm anymore.

oh and money means nothing to women

at 23, i was making 150K at an age where my peers were making 30K... I was decent looking and clearly lifted

still had nothing in terms of dating life

Girls value money, guys value a hot young piece of ass. Why is this news?

I'm gonna suffer brain damage from bashing my head against the wall from all the morons in this thread spewing this nonsense

I've been making 140 to 180K since I was 23 and I'm 29 now. No dating life whatsoever. I'm not ugly or fat whatsoever....legit 7 minimum

Well I think your last sentence is sadly true in this age of social media and online hookup apps. I still strongly disagree that men peak at 50.

Mans glow increases over time if you stay fit and live above mediocre.

When I was 21 I was scrawny and broke. Facially I was probably an 8. I was low confidence, low self esteem, and only got lucky when drunk girls threw themselves at me.

Now I have a good career, can pass for early 30's, body and face probably 7/10. Norwood reaper, a few greys and wrinkles, but I'm much more confident in every aspect of my life.

I recently deleted the dating app bumble because I couldn't keep up with the 24hr window to reply, and volume of matches/messages I would get.Buying girls dinner on dates doesn't make me a sugar daddy or them a sugar baby. I'm "targeting" girls I'm attracted to. Yes a divorce mid life with 3 kids in the picture is a crisis. I could have easily cashed out on my responsibilities in life and moved to Brazil to live on the beach. But I didn't. I support my kids and their mom, and have made sacrifices.

The recently found freedom to see other women, pool of attractive and available women, and easy access to meet them with dating apps...was a total shock on my neurotransmitters. I was admittedly addicted to the dopamine rush when I got a "You got a match!" notification on tinder, and the girl was a hot prime glow hbb. Most men in my situation would also get a rush from the dopamine, and keep swiping for more. Source: Tinder is the most downloaded, and highest grossing dating app in the world.

But...there's much more to life then dating apps, women and causal sex. So after a couple years of experiencing that lifestyle, I've scaled down quite dramatically, and have been giving my attention to 1, maybe 2 girls at a time, steadily... instead of dozens on continual pipeline replenishment. Current gf is a 21yo 7/10 attending HBS in the fall. I see her 1-2×'s/week. We've been seeing each other for a few months. And I'm content atm.

I got bad news for u homie

my pics on photofeeler were rated as 7 to 7.6

lol

let me know how many 50 year olds can go on tinder or a club and pick up hbb's.

I'm 38. I met many, many women online and then on Tinder/Bumble (beginning at age 16 on AOL!). Starting in 2016 I really started working on my net worth and as a result my time became more valuable. I became more selective toward women - mostly personality-wise.

For the most part, I stopped getting with women who lack a desirable personality (which cuts out much of the female population) as I got tired of hooking up with women who were only good to hook up with (and I'm too considerate to tell her to leave after I bust a nut - character flaw). Yeah - from time to time I get carnal horny and my D takes over my Tinder account and invites a lame but attractive woman over for sex but it's no longer a consistent thing.

I don't consider myself old at 38 but starting at around age 36 numerous chicks, during sex, would call me 'Daddy' which is less social status and more daddy issues. But none of them are looking for validation or love - they just want D, evidently from a guy who's older than them. A weird dynamic.

If a guy is 50 and has social status he will likely get women; if he's got status, takes care of himself and isn't a jerk I can guarantee he's getting women (exception would be he isn't trying to attract women, he's not putting himself out there and/or he's spending all his time time working).

Some ladies on this thread have mentioned they got with their man before he was successful. Women aren't just attracted to successful guys - they're also into guys who have both drive and desire to improve, or at least convey it.

I grew up with one dude who doesn't have s--t but he's a great talker. I'll read his ******** posts and he goes through women (mostly ones who have kids and look to have led a tough life but I digress) and this guy, time and time again, hooks these women by telling them things like, "We're going to build an empire together" and all this nonsense.

If the guy was just a loser who didn't talk big he wouldn't be nearly as successful with women but he has that B.S. gift of words these women believe until they realize he's full of it.

Related to this, what I'm noticing in this social media B.S. society is tons of guys (who don't have anything yet try to convey they do on their FB, Insta, etc.) have to some degree desensitized women to actual real status as many women have (as in the example above) been fooled prior.

But as mentioned and in closing, I know dudes who have a plan and dreams and aren't where they want to be but women are attracted to them because wanting better and drive are attractive traits.

Also, I tell dudes not to use dating apps as a crutch - the majority of hot women aren't on dating apps. Go out and find them.

none

no 25 year old chick wants a 50 year old dude unless he's maybe famous

Wow. All women look for is either a financial provider or someone to ****? Rabbit redpilling miscers on the dayllleeee.
lol both parts of that statement are entirely wrong. Coping if you say otherwise.

Yea, i def. Think the avg probably isnt, but a well taken care of one will probably be superior to anything. Assuming he also knows the game

I was out with one of my friends, and his friend brought his dad. Dude was an idris elba looking motherfuker. Wearing a turtle neck, a little bit of an air of money, sophisticated, etc.

He didnt try for any of the girls, but i have 0 doubt if he did hed have a problem. But im unsure as to the rarity of his type. Definitely dont think thats the avg 50 year old

I've been incredibly successful since I was 23 (140 to 180K). I'm also attractive and in shape (rated 7 to 7.6 on photofeeler) and dress very nice. I'm 29 now

Have never had a dating life and never had a GF

that is your future, waiting

I think you are the only one ITT who has pointed out the obvious.

Miscers seems to be under the illusion that college girls are chasing after 50 year olds, when it's most likely single women in their 40s 50s and 60s messaging and replying eagerly to the advances of 50 year olds.

Supply and demand.

College aged girls are wanted by the majority of men, but men are a dime a dozen to any averagely or above averagely attractive woman from 18 to 40 (hence why women tend to be extremely picky on dating sites, as stats have shown).

After that, their desirability begins to decline (it doesn't disappear, but it declines), and they find that they there are less desirable single men pursuing them.

(It's common for me to read and hear about women in general complaining about the quality of men, rather than the quantity of men. Whereas IME men generally complain about the struggle of generating the quantity and the quality of women).

So the single women above 40 are more responsive to advances from 50 year old men, because they know that the pool of single and desirable men interested in them is smaller.

(Note: exceptionally attractive women above 40 will still be heavily pursued, because they are rare. IME if a woman hasn't taken care of their health by 40 - and they don't have good genetics - their looks begin a steep decline.)

You lie about your age on those apps right?

I think I remember you saying that.

exactly this

attractive women between 18 to 30 are incredibly incredibly picky

I'm willing to bet they swipe right on less than 3% of men. I'm a very picky male and i still probably swipe right on 15% of women

The infamous OKcupid graph...

Women rate approx 80% of men as below average in looks,which is literally impossible.





Also OK cupid data on income...

(Basically, up until you are 23 women don't care about your income. After that, they do.)

http://www.tinderseduction.com/wp-co...comeBright.png

Race even plays a significant factor...

https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and...i=cf63260c09b7



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjSh_esW9W4

Note: I LOLed listening to them saying that white and black men prefer women of other races over women of their own race, I don't know why.

(For anyone getting depressed or feels helpless reading the above, the above are general trends. It doesn't mean that any and every woman you come across will judge a man like the above. The sub-culture that a woman belongs to can also heavily influence her preferences.

A woman who prioritizes finding a good partner and father, will likely focus on your character above everything else)

I set my age to 29 on tinder, then hide my age. I always tell a girl (if she doesn't ask) my real age when we txt, meet, before having sex, etc... On bumble I think it's set to 35-36, and I also, tell girls my real age if we decide to meet/before having sex. It's never been an issue. Not once. Most of the times girls don't believe me, ask to see my Id etc...I also tell them the truth when they ask me why I set my age to be younger...it's because it increases the pool of young attractive girls...they take it as a compliment, smile and say "that makes sense" and blush.

If I ran my real age Id estimate Id get 20% less matches. Still would be doing better than I did at 21-23yo with girls 18-26yo.

18 year old woman want to phuck 18 year old guys even if they are poor. Mainly gold digger 18 year old chicks would want to phuck a 50 year old guy.

this is a direct result of oversaturated market

I got nothing on dating sites despite my pics being rated in 7 to 7.6 range and me making over 150K at 29 years of age.

women in that appearance range who are that successful get 50,000 matches a day

The fact that you believe you have to lie, to get initial attraction, says a lot IMO.

IMO it shows that you don't genuinely believe that older men are as desirable, otherwise you wouldn't lie or hide your age.

I know a guaranteed way for you to find a wifey...

Go abroad.

It matters you just have a crappy social life/social circle. And you haven't learned how to communicate with people yet. Assuming you have just 5 close male friends that have wives/GF's. And they know your single/ looking for a relationship. Each one of those 5 females likely has 2-3 female friends that they should be trying to set you up with/introduce you to.


How many hours per day do you spend at work and at home VS at social events or public places talking to people? How many women do you communicate with that are 5/10-6/10 per day? When you talk to them do they seem interested in what you have to say or are you off-putting and make people uncomfortable?



Single women, always without fail, bring up that they are single when they are talking to a guy they are interested in. If your not out talking to people you'll never get those cues. And since you are socially awkward regardless of what you think your rated at you should be talking to women that are 4/10 to 6/10 max.

Looking for true love is like playing the lottery looking for wealth. Finding a compatible companion is more important then looking for a fairy tail love story. Oddly enough it was a divorced woman in her mid 40s that taught me that.

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but if you are a 7+/10 you should do just fine on dating apps. So either youre not a 7+/10 or your pics really suck. Or both.

Would love to know womens level of narcissism fueling the selection

If they themselves are rated that high. "Attractive" - in regard to the graphs - is somewhat subjective to me

Im guessing cupid doesnt have an objective frame on what "attractive" is - more ascertained from behaviors

none of my friends gfs know anybody

you guys act like hot women in mid 20s in decent shape who are single and who want to meet someone are common, they are not

Weird thing is I bought a car from a car salesman a couple year ago and hes a strong 6/10 but hes married to a 8/10 that is like 5-10 years younger. Hes very confident and cocky though.

You sound like a god dam* broken record player. Same chit over and over

Are you aggressive? Or do you wait back to see what women will do to make a move?

As a male, you should be more aggressive. Its better on all levels. Just assume the sale, act confident.. Theyll tell you if they dont want to be bothered

Especially very fuken hot women. One of their biggest fears is looking desperate/ undesirable