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Didn't bother reading through 4 pages to see if this has been posted yet... but Cyber. Cyber Security is really lucrative and is in very high demand. I have my CISSP and make 133k +~20% bonus / year. Recently got promoted to lead the team and will get another ~10k raise by EoY too. Let me know if you have any questions man.

This. Probably more than 80% actually.

Mind giving a brief timeline/breakdown of your job and cert progression from start -> present?

Any tips for a guy actively working to start in IT with a B.S. and excellent soft/leadership skills but starting from the bottom in terms of technical skills? Should be ready for my Net+ in the next 1-2 weeks then going for Sec+. After that focus will be on Python and mastering Linux.

65k, North of Boston. IT in Finance/Banking. Doing sys administration and escalated support, as well as small project management.

I should get a promotion in the next couple months that will put me in the bonus program and bring my salary to a comfortable 75k base + bonus for my area.

I do not make anywhere near what some of the devs/dbas make but i'm also only 5 years out of college so i'm content w/ it for now. My QOL is great i work 10 minutes from the office and never have to pull OT on salary and can come and go from the office as I please w/o getting micromanaged or forced into some sort of shift work like a helpdesk.

I graduated from College in 2012. Did an IT Leadership program for 2 years, then worked in Network security operations for 3 years for our Corporate division. During that 3 year stint I got my company to pay for a week-long CISSP training course. Studied for a weekend (my job is basically putting everything in the cert into practice so it wasn't hard for me) and then passed the test. After that 3 year stint in network security I went to work for one of our business units running Security Operations overall.

In general the best way to start learning the technical skill is just doing it. Build a few VM's at home or get a free AWS account and spin up a few servers and just start playing around with different things. There are tons of free labs/tutorials on the internet that you can start with, and just build off of it with your own supplemental things. For example, try to get a Python script running that just automates Java upgrades(https://www.reddit.com/r/usefulscrip...t_jrejdk_then/) Then, make it make config changes, make it uninstall/reinstall, make a script that runs every 6 hours and looks to see if Java is running. If it isn't, have the script automatically install it. If it is installed but out of date, have it update it.

At this point I'm rambling, but there are no shortage of "labs" you can make up for yourself to learn how things work. Let me know if you have any more questions!

SAVED FOR LATER. thanks for bringing up the question Opee.

Currently on 24k restarting computers

It can depend on companies. I work as an IT PM and have gone from 60 to right around a hundy with no PMP, just experience.

$120k + bonus. I mainly work with an overwhelmingly common web stack and also have some specialized knowledge in an obscure platform built off a dead language developed by the VA in the 1980s that a lot of major hospitals use to talk to each other worldwide, governed by a bunch of niche legal requirements.

So I drink and I know things.

I will wade cautiously into this topic...I've been in IT for 25+ years and work for a 40 billion dollar global company with 20k+ employees. I'm not a CTO but Im pretty close. Im not e-bragging, Im just giving context regarding the following salary information. I've offered in the past to scan a business card and provide a link with company information to a mod to validate if people want to claim Im frauding...

With all of that ^^^ said there are some seriously delusional people in this thread. In the company I work for we have probably a 1,000 IT employees and only 5-10% of those employees make over a 100k. This includes employees in "high rent" districts (San Fran/NY/Singapore/London). We are considered a high pay company in the industry so we arent a budget IT shop.

I manage most of the groups that contain the 5-10% of IT employees that make north of 100k. I have most of the high end specialty groups (Security/Network/etc/etc). When you break down the salaries within that group 90% are in the 100k-130k range. The remainder are our security engineers, senior architects/engineers and sales consultants. There are probably 20 employees company wide in this group and the pay range is 130-150k. The very top pay earners are our technical sales consultants/engineers and they can make close to 200k but there are only a handful of these individuals company wide. Their pay fluctuates from year to year due to commissions and they do not make 200k every year.

The only variance for these salary ranges listed above are for the guys working in Silicon valley. Outside of Silicone valley the above holds true as I've worked for numerous companies. The idea that everyone is making north of 130k is ridiculous. Companies are in business to make money...

Lets see how delusional some of these miscers are from a business perspective if the average IT salaries being thrown around are accurate.

Small company with an IT group of a 100 people
130k per person + benefits = 156k
156k x 100 employees= 15,600,000 payroll just for IT...LOL just LOL

The reality is that the top 5% are earning 100k+ and there is a very wide range of salaries within IT..

IT security architect

I put in my dues though, 3 degrees including a Masters and 11 years now working in IT. You gotta start somewhere though, I think my first job out of college was only 55K. I dont know how these dudes finish school and step into a 6-figure job the very next day. I guess times are changing.

Yeah I've heard that they are fairly useless, but I'm really doing them just to get started with that first job, I enjoy learning and look forward to soaking it all up but I have to prove to the HR gatekeepers that I am not entirely useless

Boston, consulting

in b4 analysis done by jelly miscer saying all the 100k miscers are fraudin

this thread will tend to attract more ppl who are doing well and the ppl doing well are more likely to respond (higher salary brahs will want to show how well they're doing)

basement dwelling miscers with negative income in their mom's basement aren't posting any stats itt

Yeah the weather is terrible in the summers

can confirm, TX is brutal 75% of the year

finance is where it's at.

This is 100% accurate - and notice how it killed the thread? As I said earlier in the thread, I.T is a super general / broad term, and what most of the posters in this read have mentioned, is not even close to the higher end of the "I.T" scale.

Nobody is giving out huge base salaries like the posters ITT are trying to claim, not even in Silicon Valley (where I am) are $130k jobs falling from the sky, especially for anything that you would call "I.T". You only make a BASE salary of $120-130k if you are in a specific engineering discipline, RF engineering, 5G, Silicon, Touch display, Product development, hardware engineering, software engineering, AI, robotics, etc etc etc.
If you are working for one of the FAANG's THEN on top of that $130k base, you will get some RSU's....but that depends heavily on your group, and how senior you are. A mid-level engineer (5 years experience) isn't making huge money on RSU's, you have to be a very senior engineer or low level manager to start seeing some wealth being built from RSU's.
Seriously - I must know, what is it about East Coast / New Yorkers always fraudin'? Why do New Yorkers always seem so insecure and make up totally implausible stories. Like, who's going to actually believe this?

I'll also take the challenge of PMing a MOD proof of where I work

I don't think most miscers are frauding. People on a bodybuilding forum are probably more driven, autistic, and egotistical than the typical person, thus doing well in technical fields and having higher average salary.

50k a year is a lot. You are making 20k more per year than the 30k salary needed to live comfortably every year.

If I were you I'd stop complaining and start saving that extra cash and start investing in sum real estate.

Me neither. I only made 45k in 2007 with a CS degree. I guess the ones out of lucrative tech schools can command higher salary.

Its funny, back then 45k felt like a million dollars.

From may to October it fukkin sucks. I should have cucked hard and pretended to be a Bernie bro on FB and followed my former coworkers to FB or Apple if I'd known how chit summer was here.

Lmao at the person not believing 130 base is possible in the bay, but tbh I've known seniors who made so little they had to sleep in their cars and work 2nd jobs at uber so I know some people cant negotiate for chit.

This is the biggest thing. Negotiation. Assertiveness. So many devs are severely introverted and scared of conflict, so they take what theyre offered and stay at same places for years. The ones who take risks by switching around are generally the ones who get paid. Tech interviews are hard and stressful. Most people dont want to do that **** unless they just lost their job.


Are tx summers worse than northeast winters?

Lots of trolls ITT

only top tier in big cities get CLOSE to 100k and really unless you are a DEV and programming will you ever get close or surpass 100k

One dude had been there for 6 years without a pay bump, when I quit I told the EP to give the dude my job and salary because they were fukking over good people for being too timid.

Whenever a recruiter asks me about moving back to CA I open with 200k minimum or GTFO, but most devs are too scared to even ask until they get an offer

I dunno man, Buffalo area winters fukkin suck so its close with the summer here. The bay weather is perfect but sadly you need 2 Google salaries to be able to afford live in the nice parts now

Yup that was me at my 2nd place. Just took it in the ass for 4 years. So glad i grew a set. Some people just need to have a **** this moment that invigorates them.

Id never work out there. How do you even retire with that cost of living.

I hear you, my 2nd job was for a chitbag company who was so shady the boss tried to get me to marry a stripper to get a work Visa. I wish I was kidding. Last I hear he embezzled 700k from his last team and claimed he had cancer when caught, but really had used it to buy a Corvette

Gotta love how many shady fuks run small teams lol

My wife wants us to move back badly, but she doesnt work so one salary and $2 million for a starter home = bad combo

I make about 30k less here in tx than I did in the bay but we're way ahead and have a giant mcmansion

I agree with negotiating but most people treat negotiations like a dart board instead of a math exercise. Salary ranges are defined by a market rate analysis. An HR department typically reviews location, skill set, education, etc of similar postings and job data to determine what a fair salary range is for the open position. Almost every company has a control in place that if a salary range is over 10% increase from the market rate analysis SVP/CTO approval is required. Why is executive level approval required?.... because the CTO has been charged with keeping cost in line and a salary that is 10% outside of a market analysis is not in line unless it has significant business value.

When you attempt negotiations you need to keep in mind that the hiring manager has to go to the SVP or CTO to gain approval for the 10%. This is usually involves a royal a** grilling that requires a business case, etc, etc..Do you know how many managers want to run that gauntlet, near zero.

If you want to increase your odds of getting what you want you need to be strategic. Ask for 5% at the start of the position and another 5% during the next annual performance review if you've completed X.Y.Z projects. This enables the manager to fly under the radar and give you 5% salary at the start of your role without having to face the CTO. They can then request salary uplift (thats already been approved and outlined in your offer letter) for another 5% which allows them to once again fly under the radar. You get what you want, the manager gets the employee they want while keeping their a** intact.... its a win/win.

inb4 - I got a 20-50% increase in salary from negotiations herp derp. Yes you may have gotten a nice negotiated rate but the other 99.9999% of the resumes that asked for that type of increase resumes ended up in the trash can...Ask me how I know and how many candidates I've dumped in the can because of a salary request that didnt make sense for the business. In 100% of these instances I've told my manager to go back and tell the candidate to pound sand with no opportunity for re-negotiation. If the candidate had of been creative and provided a business case then they would have been on my radar for fast track but there they are, wadded up in the trash because they were ignorant and or greedy.

Cs major

Imo, this may depend on the profession.

In my line of work(nails) there's a cap to how much you can make. It doesn't matter how good you are. If you ask for way too much, they simply won't hire you. But the only way to know that number is to have work experience. 1-2 years of work should let you know your worth.

Also, upper management WILL take advantage of your ignorance. And they will rip you off badly. Its happened to me. And this is for simple stuff like nails. But the same principle applies everywhere. Its why being curious is very important.