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Originally Posted By ChernobylResist⏩
how does that make me a cuck? Israeli Special Forces is arguably on par operationally to American/British Special Operation Forces, and they have a ton of female members. If they can pass, they should be able to serve, dickhead.
Depends on the role. If you end up in a situation where some 155lb woman has to drag my 227lb ass out of a dangerous situation I might as well just ldar because that's not going to happen.

They simply don't have the muscle strength or explosive power needed to fill these types of jobs, that isn't sexist or anything-ist at all just a fact. Sorry if that makes you sad.
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In other words, men are stronger and have more explosive power, two things that are pretty important when you're conducting a night raid in an urban area. Unless you think people will be real nice and open their doors for you and you won't have to move obstacles.
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
The people in charge are ideological and aren't doing this for practical reasons like you seem to think. They don't care about results otherwise they wouldn't do this.



It's always people on the sidelines with no skin in the game who think this is a good idea. If I have to go to war I don't want any fuking women there getting in the way.
Indeed, lmao at thinking the Obama appointees who come up with this stuff are thinking about American Exceptionalism when they push it.

Checked the FB of the only SEAL I know personally to see the reaction but he's retired and working as a Hollywood consultant so not a peep. I suspect they're not thrilled tbh
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
Burden of proof is on you, youre the one with the claim that they segregate risk based on gender in the unit. The units are integrated and females are displacing males, that creates a massive liability and risk to the male soldiers around them. They are also in situations where they could be ambushed at any time. The entire idea of a combat unit is for them to be ready to fight when they are in a warzone. You have the claim that there are "safer" combat roles with females in place, burden of proof is on you to show us what these safer combat missions and roles are.


devils advocate - lets say you were actually right and that integrated units were limited in their use for safety reasons, then female soldiers would be a terrible value proposition for the military. They displace men from training schools, cost the same salary and benefits while only being used for limited roles and infact under your theory limit entire units of mostly men to reduced combat roles, effectively reducing the ability of the entire US military on a whole. If you are right they should be banned immediately.
And I'm telling the elite aren't putting women in top priority roles. I've never heard of male/female unit doing raids on a Bin Laden type targets. Where's the massive liability? Anybody can be a grunt, it's the lowest and easiest position in the military, even scrawny high school grads can do it.

Women aren't a terrible value proposition for the military because they 1)Provide more cannon fodder. You can never have too many grunts. 2)Can do support roles fairly easy.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
Military exists to literally kill our enemies, hence warrior. Fuk that romantic defend us chit. They are funded for one purpose; killing the enemy before they kill us. They're killers and damn good at it. Don't be ashamed to call it what it is. If they weren't warriors killing those we needed killed, we'd be screwed.
Just lol no. They're just hired guns paid to do the wetwork i.e ensuring America's dominance.

Bombing the hell out of a few sand *******s over there is not enough to justify such an extensive army.
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what's the point of this? Taking into account the kind of person who chooses to be a navy SEAL in the first place, there's no need for this sjw pandering.
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
It's a bigger issue than just this thread, or just the USA. Women are allowed in normal combat infantry roles here now. I'm no SF operator, I'm just a rifleman but the lives of normal soldiers like me are at stake too and if we go to war with women in tow, we are far more likely to die as a result. It actually matters to some of us, who aren't just keyboard warriors.
Do you have research to back up the claim that you are in more danger because of female inclusion?

I’m not saying I disagree with you, just curious.
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[QUOTE=Fang2 post_id=1618092341]Cliffs of women in the military


[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/cXvdC4r.gif?noredirect[IMG][/QUOTE]damn haven't seen this one that little upward curve/hill saved that dude when chit blew up right across from him lol
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Well, I mean they ARE a branch of the Navy after all. Nuff said!
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
Military exists to literally kill our enemies, hence warrior. Fuk that romantic defend us chit. They are funded for one purpose; killing the enemy before they kill us. They're killers and damn good at it. Don't be ashamed to call it what it is. If they weren't warriors killing those we needed killed, we'd be screwed.
Right because we've been attacked so many times. We would not be screwed. Bro that's just propaganda. We really only need the military for defensive posturing. This whole thoughtcrime preemptive killing is unlawful. Preemptive wars are wars of aggression. They don't make sense. The first to attack is the bad guy. Period. The United Nations, of which we are a permanent member, is clear about this. Preemptive wars are illegal. If our military is just a band of killers, then there isn't much hope for our country. If we only believe wars are resolved through killing and not negotiation of terms, there can be no hope for peace or anything short of total annihilation of "the enemy" or of ourselves.
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The seals CUCKED themselves...

Their behavior was so bad and they had such a string of issues the rear admiral had to get involved. He released a strategy and document to reel in the Navy seals and align them with "basic" regulations....

They basically asked for the Navy to get all up in their business and address their issues...and when you get a monolithic entity in your business you are going to eat the entire sandwich including the "agenda mayonnaise"..
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
I feel like using the term "warrior" is really cheesy. First of all, it sort of extols war itself. And war is when you have run out of solutions. I like "peacekeeping forces", "operatives", "agents", etc. They should really use the word "defender" or "guard",but the truth is the US military mainly exists for attacking and not defending.Second of all, it creates images of some medieval era dude with a sword or axe rushing at you. It's hardly the same thing. It just sounds really stupid imo. Hurr durr I is a warrior. Hurr durr. Warfighter sounds better, but even that is just making it sound like they only exist for the purpose of war. Special forces agent or operative sounds much more professional. Words like warrior are cringe af. The word soldier carries with it some dignity and modernization as well and evokes different pictures than "warrior". Airman, soldier, sailor, etc all sound better than "warrior". Words like servicemen and servicewomen also emphasis the importance that the military exists to SERVE the people. These are good words to use imo.
Spoken like a true civilian who knows only what the media tells them about the military. Do you haveANYclue how much of the military is dedicated to posturing and intimidation to AVOID conflict? For fuks sake....the USA is 1000 times more of interventionists to PREVENT war than we are actual War mongers, though you wouldnt know this if you listened to people like you. Just look into USA's nuclear and European missile umbrella that the countries have agreed to sign on with USA in order to protect them from Russia and other hostile countries with Nukes and deadly Nonnuclear ICBMs. If the US military was only for attacking, then we would be the head of the world and its singular gov and not it's world police
Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
It's a little cringe, but not NEARLY as much as a bunch of self described alpha males who shamelessly parrot each other's political views, grow the same shaggy soup catcher beards, and get the same basic bitch full sleeve tatts. They are all the same damn guy.
When I was in, only Special Operations were allowed to grow beards and long hair (now you can have facial hair of short length which looks unprofessional IMO) so they could blend in more easily with the locals wherever they were imbedded with in the middle East and have more in common (because most of the cultures dont consider you a man without a beard). A lot of vets do the beards and tats because they couldnt do it while serving and lets face it, it's a manly thing to do. But its also not exclusive to military vets. But i dont expect civilians to understand, nor do i waste my time worrying about what they think.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Right because we've been attacked so many times. We would not be screwed. Bro that's just propaganda. We really only need the military for defensive posturing. This whole thoughtcrime preemptive killing is unlawful. Preemptive wars are wars of aggression. They don't make sense. The first to attack is the bad guy. Period. The United Nations, of which we are a permanent member, is clear about this. Preemptive wars are illegal. If our military is just a band of killers, then there isn't much hope for our country. If we only believe wars are resolved through killing and not negotiation of terms, there can be no hope for peace or anything short of total annihilation of "the enemy" or of ourselves.
Shut up ****. Screw helping people. The military, by definition, is a profession of violence, euphemisms that you and politicians make are why the American population is so blind to what war is.
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Originally Posted By EnochsProphecy⏩
These two Green Berets talk about the first female Green beret. They say that officers basically gave her special privileges and did everything possible to make her pass.

Damn i hate to hear that. But it was the same witht he first female Rangers who graduated.https://people.com/celebrity/female-...t-sources-say/

I watched a video of a former ranger instructor who had documentation of the 3 female rangers who went through and how they should have gotten Day One recycles for integrity violations and such but they were allowed to continue when MY ASS would have been given a DNR (do not return)

Edit: Just read that they (the two that graduated) failed Phase 1 twice so they had to repeat it. Do overs are pretty damn rare, much less a third try. You'd be lucky to get an invitation to come back to RASP in a few months but a third fukking try?????
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
Spoken like a true civilian who knows only what the media tells them about the military. Do you haveANYclue how much of the military is dedicated to posturing and intimidation to AVOID conflict? For fuks sake....the USA is 1000 times more of interventionists to PREVENT war than we are actual War mongers, though you wouldnt know this if you listened to people like you. Just look into USA's nuclear and European missile umbrella that the countries have agreed to sign on with USA in order to protect them from Russia and other hostile countries with Nukes and deadly Nonnuclear ICBMs. If the US military was only for attacking, then we would be the head of the world and its singular gov and not it's world police


When I was in, only Special Operations were allowed to grow beards and long hair (now you can have facial hair of short length which looks unprofessional IMO) so they could blend in more easily with the locals wherever they were imbedded with in the middle East and have more in common (because most of the cultures dont consider you a man without a beard). A lot of vets do the beards and tats because they couldnt do it while serving and lets face it, it's a manly thing to do. But its also not exclusive to military vets. But i dont expect civilians to understand, nor do i waste my time worrying about what they think.
Yeah I do have a pretty good understanding of deterrence.

Tell me when Iraq attacked us though to justify the latest war. Otherwise, it's illegal and a violation of international law.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
I feel like using the term "warrior" is really cheesy
cheesy to use for members of SOF?

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Originally Posted By veggie530⏩
cheesy to use for members of SOF?

plz go wincel
yeah it's cheesy, and I explained why
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Originally Posted By ChernobylResist⏩
If they can make it through the trainings, I dont see why not
I can tell you firsthand women absolutely destroy military units just by existing. Srs. One female and everyone in the unit goes full monkey even the senior leaders. Seen it happen.

Doesn’t even have to be hot just needs a puss.
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what a damn shame. but again this is pushed by higher ups who are more concerned about furthering their own careers than they are about the brotherhood. nobody in the teams will be adopting this silly ****
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Read the bold. Women aren't getting the big dangerous missions like you all make it seem like. As far as normal infantry, I mean how hard is that role? Minimum requirements seem to be walking around with 50lbs of equipment and a rifle. Look at how many no experience jackass 18-21 year olds been infantry. Your life isn't in anymore dangerous with women and I'm willing to bet most women will be in 'support' roles.
"Minimum requirement" scenario: Squad consisting of 9 infantry each carrying at minimum 60-80 lbs of gear is on a foot patrol 10 miles out, 10 miles back (good luck to your female soldier). After an ambush, your 200 lb gunner with 100 lbs of gear becomes a casualty. 300 lbs now needs to be split among the 8 remaining, then all the gear and the casualty need to be exfilled to a secure clearing where a helo can medivac your casualty. 4 of your strongest carry the stretcher (their load is now at minimum 110 lbs), and the female gets to ruck with a low estimate of 85 lbs, which is going to easily be half her body weight and more. If she holds up the progress, her shared burden is lessened by distributing to the rest of the squad. Sounds like a fantastic way to get everyone killed.
Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
Do you have research to back up the claim that you are in more danger because of female inclusion?

I’m not saying I disagree with you, just curious.
Yea, a study by the crayon eating Marines. Doesn't take a genius to know these things.
Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Got any sources on integrated units going on top priority missions?
The fuk you mean top priority missions? No one is talking about direct action, we are talking about regular infantry who go on patrols, talk to locals, and get blown up by IEDs and PKMs.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
The important question... would you bang this FEMALE seal? She kinda looking like a snack, right?

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Can a woman kill a man without getting all emotional and compromise a mission?
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If they can meet all the same qualifications as men then all the power to them, let them in. Just don't change the standards for them.

Military is one place we don't want to lower standards. You don't hear bs like this in russia,Russia, iran.

The question is, do you want to win or lose wars.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
Do you have research to back up the claim that you are in more danger because of female inclusion?

I’m not saying I disagree with you, just curious.
males have a primitive instinct to protect females. brb on a da raid and kristen takes a couple rounds and everybodys reaction is to tend to the woman and gets everyone else whacked. females also have regular hormonal fluctuations EVERY month. brb kristen cant operate tonight because she has debilitating cramps. women do have a place in SOF but not on a door kicking team. primarily support roles like CST that embed into these units and perform other critically important tasks
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
Slept in a hole in the woods next to this sloot for 4 nights during basic training srs



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Originally Posted By DaveBenson2004⏩
White people deserve to be extinct, our DNA is clearly flawed for us to think this way. Not a single African or Chinese thinks like this, and it's the reason they will inherit all of the earth. Anyone who fights in the military for Western countries is wasting their time, you might as well all just give up now... its over. Pathetic.
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
It's a bigger issue than just this thread, or just the USA. Women are allowed in normal combat infantry roles here now. I'm no SF operator, I'm just a rifleman but the lives of normal soldiers like me are at stake too and if we go to war with women in tow, we are far more likely to die as a result. It actually matters to some of us, who aren't just keyboard warriors.
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Originally Posted By ChernobylResist⏩
how does that make me a cuck? Israeli Special Forces is arguably on par operationally to American/British Special Operation Forces, and they have a ton of female members. If they can pass, they should be able to serve, dickhead.
You're thinking of IDF or Israeli Defense Force which has a draft including recruit women but also purposely assigns them to areas that are unlikely to see combat I.e borders with non-hostile nations or basically as security forces well inside the city. If women can't make elite groups in the US why would it be different anywhere else in the world?
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