Ok Beta, for you.

What made Europe master of the world? First exploration, and then the will to dominate. Take the Indian Ocean as an example, the Portuguese got there first and ruled the ocean because of the vision of men like Henry the Navigator, the daring of men like Vasco da Gama, Francisco de Almeida and Afonso de Albuquerque and the willingness of the Portuguese Kings to allow them free reign. Prior to the Portuguese arrival the Chinese navy could have dominated the ocean, but it was recalled because the Ming dynasty rulers did not want to allow it free reign because of what it might become or what this might stir up in its sailors.

The same thing made Habsburg Spain rich, and it was down to men like Columbus, Cortes and Pedro de Alvarado. Cortes might be the greatest aristocratic warrior Chad of them all. Then there's Walter Raleigh, Francis Drake, James Cook and etc

Long before this the Greeks, Romans, Germans and Scandinavians all did the same on a smaller scale throughout Europe and around the Mediterranean.

The same impulses apply to scientific discovery and industrialisation, which was also driven by aristocrats. Modern democracy, liberalism and equality all came long after Europe became supreme.

As to the Islam issue, we have always been outnumbered militarily throughout history and usually came out on top anyway. The first crusade is a great example. Even if it doesn't come to a head soon, all that's required is the will to do so and we can take back our countries even from the very brink.Lol, exactly. But the general point about lacking will/conviction is valid.

Appreciated.There is this really weird cultural myth that is perpetuated by Classic Liberals and Pro Capitalism, that innovation or inquiry truly can't happen without liberalism and capitalism.

One of the key reasons for valuing scientific discovery in the West so much is because the scientific method developed in the west. So the west valuing scientific inquiry wasn't due to liberalism or capitalism, it's been a part of European culture since the Ionians, long before liberalism and capitalism came along like you said.I prefer a more peaceful approach. ie. constant diplomatic criticism of Islam, and promotion of western High Culture to Islamic communities/nations. So that organically the influence of traditional upon societies will be eroded. (I'm not good at diplomatic criticism, due to my aggressive debate style, and easily getting pissed off when I perceive when I see muslims in denial.)

Though one problem is that, here in Europe especially, a lot of muslim purposefully form quasi-isolationist communities, were non-English languages are routinely spoken in homes and in mosques. The intention seems to be to culturally isolate themselves (and it does work to a large degree).

Great video that I watched the other day about whether we need to try to reform or defeat Islam...

Meaningless word salad. Wtf does conviction to science, property and modern medicine mean anyway?


Penor more or less explained it, we take the benefits of peace, democracy and general welfare for granted, but those are merely the results of millennia of us Europeans murderfuking each other, the occasional invaders and random people all over the world.


Spain and the Brits weren't able to casually topple and buttfuk civilizations and call the shots literally half a globe away because of their good tableside manners and their conviction to daily Flamenco sessions/tea and crumpets.

This is just going down the same road as before on how to defeat the NWO, we will disagree. Reasoning with and promoting high culture to billions of inbred goat fukers is a funny idea though!

What do you think to the idea that Islam is the reformation of Christianity to more effectively spread Abrahamism? Or Hagarism, that Islam is a Judaic forgery?

This is 100% Taqiyya

Everyone be aware it’s ok for Muslims to lie to non Muslims about their faith.

You do realize that all this stems from the tv and culture in the west ?

If the media changed their agenda and started telling us to hate Islam
It filled our tv series on Netflix about getting rid of muzzles and sending them all back to the dirt patch where they belong .
If children’s were feed gold old alpha volent males in cartoons and etc

You would have the whole west rilled up exterminating muzzies

But the media is all on Islam side having the west commit white genocide because people just do what the tv tells them

Lol at muslimcels in the west.

If you truly have enough conviction in a religion like Islam, then why would you choose to live in societies where everything goes against your beliefs and principals? I would just up and leave to live somewhere more aligned to my view of the world. This basic cognitive dissonance blows my mind.

The muslim world will never catch up to the west either, the level of religious dogma is unshakable. Middle east led the world in science and innovation until theocratic muslim brainlets brought it to stagnation. It's essentially stuck in the 14th century, whilst secularism has propelled Europe light years ahead.

Bumping for relevance. This sloot has been spitting Taqiyya for the last 5 pages ITT.

Strong lol whether or not the cuck'ran says apostacy should be punishable by death-- what it DOES say is that it is NOT A SIN to kill an apostate and she's trying to act like that is meaningfully different.

Meanwhile the following twenty-three countries of peace have the death penalty for apostacy:https://www.loc.gov/law/help/apostasy/index.php

But it's not real Islam according to MuzzledSloot69 (STRONG flashes of "not real Communism" brahs)

Imagine the beatdown this bish would catch if she called her husband "homie" JUST PHUCKING EL OH EL.

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Ethered

I don't believe she's engaging in Taqqiya, I believe that she's just an unorthodox muslim in denial of what is orthodox Islam.

She's not orthodox in her beliefs, nor her behaviour. I also suspect that she's very westernized.

I honestly hope that more muslims think like her regarding Hadith and Shariah. Ded srs.

IME Taqqiya is never advised, it's normally only advised during times of war and is mainly Shia concept. (The previous is from memory.)

IME muslims don't lie, they just normally only lead with the parts of Islam that are palatable to westerners. They avoid topics like Slavery, 'Sex' with slaves, hudud punishments, LGBTQ rights, etc.