The reality is if someone is against a pre-nup you shouldn't be marrying them and I wouldn't worry too much about how you bring it up. The fact someone who is supposed to love for you is against you protecting yourself and planning for an easy split if by chance things go wrong is a really bad sign.

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Perfect opportunity to bring it up. I assume he knows the story of her sister, so a simple, hey baby, remember when we had a short conversation about a pre-nup a long time ago? And you know what my sister is going through. Well, I'm thinking we need to have that conversation too.

I don't know how I would have handled it when I first got married. I don't think I could be driving around in her car though as I like to make my own way.

My business partner makes about 700k, her husband just started at Firestone....yeah - she has a solid prenup lol.

Agree, it depends on what side of the fence you're on. One of our assistants bagged a rich guy and my partner had her lawyer go through the proposed prenup and amend items that were crazy unfavorable to her assistant (but if roles were reversed I doubt she'd have complained about said items). Come to think about it, My wife is at about the same income discrepancy - but no prenup crew (wouldn't have counted anyway because she was with me before I made these duckets - I had only debt pre-marriage)

For us it was very simple, assets in our individual names would be individual assets upon a divorce and mutual assets would be split evenly. I don't believe it should be much more complex than this for most individuals and it protects both parties regardless of future happenings and shifts in wealth. It's also just easy as larger value assets such as vehicles and real estate have titles with a name or names on them, so there really isn't much extra action needed throughout our lives.

Like I said, red flag for relationship health. Why wasn’t he the very first person she spoke to about this?

Random people on the internet discussing it, and this guy who she’s supposedly in love and deeply intimate with, has no idea about the conferring behind his back.

I actually agree with this

I think the problem isnt people not protecting their assets, I think the problem is people letting other people become their life partner who they shouldnt have. Maybe people should be smarter at picking who they marry.

As much as a prenuptial agreement of finances makes sense in capitalist America, it really doesnt make sense in believing in the actual virtue of marriage.

I grew up with a divorced mother who got remarried 3 times before I turned 18.
I grew up with a father and step mother who were happily unquestionably married for the whole time and still are.

I learned first hand you pick someone youre ready to spend your whole life, absolutely every single day until death, or dont fukking do it.

Anyway I believe in honoring a marriage, not for moralistic purposes alone but because I think it pays off ultimately getting through huge issues and spending multiple seasons of life with a good person for you. I think people now have not only picked people knowing divorce is a not extremely difficult option, and leave marriages over issues that could have been resolved if people were actually devoted to the marriage concept, and they could have ended up very happy and have a stronger bond. But weak people submit to what society tells them is "unacceptable" and think "okay the whole thing is complete **** now, throw it away".

Going into what people should morally believe is a commitment for LIFE but having a contingency plan already lined up is hypocritical at its essence. Your're not really committed if you're doing that. I would rather get married and have FULL commitment, FULL trust, this person has my back if I kill someone or if I get cancer and lose half my body. If you dont have that then dont get fukking married.

The sex, the conversations, the time you spend together, the longevity of admiring and loving your partner is all enhanced when you fully commit and fully trust someone. The more you keep these little contingencies the more it weakens the actual benefits you get from the relationship, especially after marriage. I didnt realize this until I got engaged but the more you give and let go to the relationship the more you get.

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To answer OP, your friend wouldn’t even need to ask if her relationship was stable enough for marriage.

The fact she’s worried this conversation will ruin things tells me she’s really not ready to be married.

The reality is if someone if for a pre-nup you shouldn't be marrying them and I wouldn't worry too much about how they brought it up. The fact someone who is supposed to love you is considering the possibility of an exit and planning for an easy split if by chance things go wrong is a really bad sign.

There's 2 sides to this argument, and they're both fair.

Do you have friends irl? You've literally never mentioned something to one of your close buddy to voice a concern before bringing it up with the person you're dating? Or maybe you never have. Kudos to you. Chicks do this all the time.

Yes random people on the internet discussing it. I didn't tell her I made a huge thread about her.. should I link both of them? Get your panties out of a bunch it's a random thread that I'm actually finding helpful.

The guy is a straight up loser. How tf do you not own a car.

I don't own a car, late 30's.

Where do you live?

Company car?

I wanted to give everyone closure and provide an update.. They're not getting married anymore. Syke.. that's probably what misc was hoping for.


She told me that she mentioned to him over the phone that they needed to discuss the boring legal details before the wedding when she gets home and he said he was all for it very nonchalantly.

THEN that evening - THIS MFER brings out a doc he got drawn up from a lawyer that's notarized stating that he doesn't want any of her chit if this goes south. She said a weight was completely lifted but they're going to go sit down with hers so that he doesn't leave 'empty handed'. (were the words that she used)

I was / am impressed how this worked out.

Respect. That's one way to tell your partner that you are in it because you want to be and not because they have money.

A little off topic but I think there needs to be a change in marriage laws

When you get married you literally swear an oath to god "til death do us part"

and yet divorce rates in the USA are over 60%..

She told me that she mentioned to him over the phone that they needed to discuss the boring legal details before the wedding when she gets home and he said he was all for it very nonchalantly.

THEN that evening - THIS MFER brings out a doc he got drawn up from a lawyer that's notarized stating that he doesn't want any of her chit if this goes south. She said a weight was completely lifted but they're going to go sit down with hers so that he doesn't leave 'empty handed'. (were the words that she used)

I was / am impressed how this worked out.

what a dumb thread. Men aren't emotionally fragile and low-key greedy succubuses like women are. Just tell him straight out "I was talking to a lawyer about us signing a prenup" and if he cries you know he was a little bitch boy and shouldn't be marrying anyone


no it's not and you're stupid

Huh. I wonder what I said before...

feels good to be right again