Good post, but sadly this will be lost on midwit "i heckin love science and logic!!!" Redditors who refuse to admit they themselves don't know everything, are incapable of knowing everything, and indeed, there are truths out there that are inherently unknowable.

I knew God existed when I was 4 years old and I didn't need any religion to tell me that.

I remember looking around outside my apartment I was in and seeing all the tree's, clouds, sun, the blue sky, how beautiful it was and I was like, God does exist.



You might think that's because of child like faith but look around you outside.

You think all these cars, planes and technology just appeared evolving over hundreds or thousands of years?

No, there was someone who was the creator. Who created the design, and put work to find the raw materials, refine them and create components to put together which results in what were driving, living and working with today.








You are correct that organized religion have some good aspects and give people guidance in life but it is also true that Religion has been corrupted all over the world by certain people,

taking advantage of people's sincerity all to enrich themselves and profit from it.



It was true in the past and still is true today.

The Lord Jesus Christ saw this and condemned it 2000 years ago.



Mark 11:15-18

"And they come to Jerusalem: and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple,

and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves;

And would not suffer that any man should carry any vessel through the temple.



And he taught, saying unto them, Is it not written, My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves.

And the scribes and chief priests heard it, and sought how they might destroy him: for they feared him, because all the people was astonished at his doctrine."




Why did The Lord Jesus Christ do this?



During that time, the only money that was accepted at the Temple of Jerusalem as an offering to The Lord was the half shekel of the sanctuary.


A coin half ounce of pure silver, assured weight without an image of a Roman Emperor where the money changers cornered the market creating a monopoly.

The coin was not plentiful where they raised prices and profiting off the Jewish people. This was a clear violation of the worship of God in the temple.


So religion does have it positives as well as negatives, but as a person who should not let others actions or experiences in the past determine our attitude and throw it all out.

We all should take stock of how things are going and be sincere to look for the real truth ourselves.


Take a look at the new testament, Read about The Lord Jesus Christ who they wanted to destroy because he told the truth and is the truth.


John 14:5-6

"Thomas saith unto him,

Lord, we know not whither thou goest;

and how can we know the way?



Jesus saith unto him,

I am the way,

the truth,

and the life:

no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

You *knew* god was real when you were 4 years old, because you looked out the window and saw trees etc.
ok, I’m convinced. Thread over

Remember the guy that gave up? Neither does anybody else.

You *knew* god was real when you were 4 years old, because you looked out the window and saw trees etc.
ok, I’m convinced. Thread over

Maybe someone can give some smart advice that might help.

They believe because of personal experience, among other things. Tons of people have gone from atheistic/agnostic to believing in a Creator. Not because they suddenly acquired some type of information that you don’t have access to, but because of experiences they’ve had. Not sure what it is exactly that you’re wanting us to give you.


If you’d like to try an experiment, do this. Start and end each day with prayer. Simply talk to God as if He exists and can be easily communicated with. And you can ask for things, but your prayer should be focused on two main things; expressing gratitude and asking for guidance. Do that for the entire month of March and see what you think at the end.


And ftr, I’m not making claims about what that will and won’t do or will and won’t prove. Just pointing out that it may be an experiment worth doing

People have asked what you’re looking for, which you can’t answer(and we almost certainly couldn’t give it to you even if you could). People have asked what you believe, which you can’t answer.



You start the thread with:









And I gave you just about the closest thing you can get to that.






Others have also attempted to explain some basic logic that may help you see things differently, which you called a sh!t post.





Not sure if you really are looking for suggestions, are just frustrated because others can’t give you what you want, or if you’re just trolling.

Yes, you’re absolutely right. Looking out the window when you were 4, seeing trees and absolutely *knowing* that there is a god is everything I was looking for. **** off man honestly

Negged for ignoring all of the constructive input, focusing on that one thread, and being a huge ******* to most people chiming in on your thread.


Fukk off man honestly

To most people? Or the retard who thinks looking out the window when he was 4 and that being proof of god is real? Absolute spastic.

Well the feeling he experienced in that moment can’t even be properly expressed if he wrote an entire essay on, much less a short post on a dying, gay, Indian, bodybuilding forum. Still, he took the time to chime in(albeit he didn’t put in a ton of effort explaining it). But again, you ignored all the constructive posts and pick out posts like that one to be a d!cl about. Then telling people( like me) to fukk off for pointing it out.

I can point to STIGMATA and other WELL DOCUMENTED and SCIENTIFICALLY CHALLENGED Orthodox/Catholic MIRACLES. Plenty of YouTube vids and books on the subjects if one wishes to do his research……or he can just be LAZY and continue to play the annoying athiest

In the beginning.

Tried to fit a few responses into one did bad job.even forgot a few things.

In the beginning was the word and the word was god. God is the energy causing our universe to vibrate in a certain frequency which causes life. The spirit.perterbation in the ether.

We can all be Jesus or son of god.you have to look within to find god not outward to your sky daddy theory that has nothing to do with the Bible.the true temple is your own body.

Every orgasm shortens your life. And wastes vital fluid that would normally activate enhance cognitive function(can't be enlightened without it).hence masterbation is a sin.cant ever be truly happy either because it causes chemical imbalances in the body.

Jesus Christ means anointed one. You are anointed when the csf isn't wasted by sin even lustful thinking effects hormones and chemicals in body. It's called sacred secretion for a reason.thats why the Bible uses the name Jesus christ instead of the mans name. Once you've purified your body and become sinless (also have to eat right)
You to can be a light in the world. It's how you activate your pineal and full brain. Become connected to the all that is god.
The fluid travels from your sacrum to your pineal/pituitary glands(ones electric other magnetic)gets crucified which means multiplied by ten fold. During the time the moon is in your sun sign(birthday month's full moon) hence Jesus is the way and the life. And how you reach the father/god

God is infinite and causes all things.

Time don't exist it's a measurement. Have you ever seen an inch before or a gram. No they don't exist they just help us quantify what does exist.just like a shadow don't exist. It's the absence of light.

The Bible is encoded so morons dont get the real knowledge/wisdom without morals first being built. Each section defines certain things you need to understand other sections.

Tried to fit a few responses into one did bad job.even forgot a few things.

I don't smoke marijuana but I understand what you're saying and think this is closer to reality than a) nothing existed and then muh heckin sciencerino happened and big bang made everything out of nothing, and then a few billion years later muh heckin sciencerino redditor mud got struck by lightning and turned into an amino acid which after a few more billion years became a human, and there is no God; or b) You must join my church and dress like me and give me your money and adhere to this list of rules that I came up in order to not burn in hell for eternity.

Those rules are to benefit you, not God. That’s what people don’t understand, sin leads to death. The death of relationships, families, sin leads to disease & sickness. Sin isn’t bad because God says so, sin is bad because sin destroys..& that is what God is trying to teach his creation.

Matthew 15:9 KJV: But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

It's true that all of God's rules are for your benefit, but the church's rules can be something very different.

Those rules are to benefit you, not God. That’s what people don’t understand, sin leads to death. The death of relationships, families, sin leads to disease & sickness. Sin isn’t bad because God says so, sin is bad because sin destroys..& that is what God is trying to teach his creation.

I’d agree with that, especially the Catholic Church or different cults like Mormonism & JW’s.

Oh I agree. I was referring to things like, don't drink caffeine and do wear the magic underwear, or don't eat meat on Friday and you must eat the literal body of Christ and drink the literal blood of Christ, etc etc.

What trips many people up is a misconception of what sin is. Sin is the transgression of the law, but consider that the law is the schoolmaster that brings us to Christ, and once we are in Christ, we are dead unto sin, sin (sin = death) has no more dominion over us. What we do from there is up to us and that's the root of the Christian life. Getting hung up over do's and don'ts gets in the way of our fellowship with God and our growth as a Christian.