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Thread: Pretty sure slut at my dad's company rigged a "prize draw" to make his BF win

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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
I'm not listing the scenario for each person, I'm listing the scenario for the final draw. But yeah that is what I'm trying to argue so yay
That's just one person. There are 1225 possible outcomes for EACH person. But "Prize 1 + Jack chit 1" is going to look a lot like "Prize 1 + Jack chit 17". The difference only exists statistically.

So there's a 1 in 35 chance that SOMEONE would win the small TV + big TV combo, but only a 1 in 1225 chance that a PARTICULAR PERSON would win the small TV + big TV combo.
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Left this thread thinking it was all over. Come back and it isn't. Lol. Come on people, stop beating the dead horse.
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This is why your dad owns a company, and you're working for one.

your dad got 99 problems but a sloot rigging tv contest aint one.
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Originally Posted By Layne205⏩
That's just one person. There are 1225 possible outcomes for EACH person. But "Prize 1 + Jack chit 1" is going to look a lot like "Prize 1 + Jack chit 17". The difference only exists statistically.

So there's a 1 in 35 chance that SOMEONE would win the small TV + big TV combo, but only a 1 in 1225 chance that a PARTICULAR PERSON would win the small TV + big TV combo.
I do understand what you are saying in your first paragraph. I was trying (maybe wrongly) so simplify it by just giving the combination options for the final draw, rather than each person. Before any draw takes place there are 35 combination options of prizes for the end draw, each of which has an equal chance if being the one that happens, no matter which person ends up with which small prize.

But yes, all I was trying to say from the beginning was that each person with each small prize has the same chance at the big prize, no matter which one they won, therefore there is no particular reason to suggest foul play. I think I have just overcomplicated it in various ways when trying to explain that.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
I do understand what you are saying in your first paragraph. I was trying (maybe wrongly) so simplify it by just giving the combination options for the final draw, rather than each person. Before any draw takes place there are 35 combination options of prizes for the end draw, each of which has an equal chance if being the one that happens, no matter which person ends up with which small prize.

But yes, all I was trying to say from the beginning was that each person with each small prize has the same chance at the big prize, no matter which one they won, therefore there is no particular reason to suggest foul play. I think I have just overcomplicated it in various ways when trying to explain that.
Every person had the same chances of getting the big TV after the first draw, we are on the same page until there. However,only one person had chances of getting the small TV + big TV comboafter the first draw, because only one guy had already won the TV before the second draw.

Again, it seems like you get it but at the same time seems like you dont lol. 34 prizes were ****, and 2 prizes were great. The chances of one person getting the 2 great prizes is 1/1225. Thats it.


Dont bring up the stapler, deck of cards **** again please lmao
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
I thought of another way to explain what I mean so someone can tell me why I'm wrong, if everyone hasn't given up yet lol. I thought I had it with peacewithin, but apparently not.
This is all correct. Perhaps the easiest way to explain it would be if you think about the first draw as everyone drawing from 35 bits of paper, each with a small prize on it. Then think of the second draw as everyone drawing from 35 bits of paper, one which has big tv written on it and the other 34 have no prize written on them. If you think of it like this, then if you wanted the odds of picking small tv from the first draw then big tv from the second, the odds are 1/35 * 1/35 for 1/1225.

The reason you're seeing it as 1/35 is because you're only considering the combinations where the person has already won the Big TV draw. You're not considering the 34/35 times that that person picks 'no prize' out of the Big TV draw.
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"his" bf?
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
"his" bf?
131 post for this to come up.


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Originally Posted By EconBruh⏩
This is all correct. Perhaps the easiest way to explain it would be if you think about the first draw as everyone drawing from 35 bits of paper, each with a small prize on it. Then think of the second draw as everyone drawing from 35 bits of paper, one which has big tv written on it and the other 34 have no prize written on them. If you think of it like this, then if you wanted the odds of picking small tv from the first draw then big tv from the second, the odds are 1/35 * 1/35 for 1/1225.

The reason you're seeing it as 1/35 is because you're only considering the combinations where the person has already won the Big TV draw. You're not considering the 34/35 times that that person picks 'no prize' out of the Big TV draw.
Yeah I know, I get it now, I've got it for awhile, although I did have some confusion at the beginning.

There's a 1/35 chance of that being the winning combo no matter who gets it. Theres a 1/1225 chance for each individual person to win that combination at the end before the draws have started (where I admittedly did have confusion at the beginning but I've understood for ages now, I'm just going over things in different ways to try to explain where I'm coming from because I'm bad at it).

But that 1/1225 chance also applies to every other combination for any person, making things equal. Which I think we are all in agreement on we're just arguing back and forth because people think I still don't understand.

When really my point from the beginning (even when I want understanding the 1/1225 right) was that everyone has an equal chance for all the combos so there's no more reason to be suspicious about this than any other result that happened apart from the fact it's more rustling because it's the two high value options, but then bring high value doesn't change the odds.

The only thing that makes it suspect is that it was the gf drawing it, and I think we all agree that that was stupid and it should've been a neutral party to avoid suspicions like this if it happened, which was just as likely from the beginning as anything else happening.

At least today I find a thread where I know what I'm talking about to post in lmao






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Originally Posted By headinahole⏩
131 post for this to come up.


misk is fuking life support.


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Post #7 got it, but was a little to subtle to be noticed.
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
"his" bf?
Lmao, I did noticed he switched between it being a boy and a girl a lot. Someone did make a joke about it on the first page too. I assumed maybe English wasn't ops first language.
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
"his" bf?
lold. Always fuk up the his and hers. I was rustled though so was typing all emotional and ****
Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
Yeah I know, I get it now, I've got it for awhile, although I did have some confusion at the beginning.





When really my point from the beginning (even when I want understanding the 1/1225 right) was that everyone has an equal chance for all the combos so there's no more reason to be suspicious about this than any other result that happened apart from the fact it's more rustling because it's the two high value options, but then bring high value doesn't change the odds.
Just when i think you finally get it, you post confusing **** like this that makes me think "fuk this gay earth" lmao.


Yes, everyone at the start had an equal chance to win all the combos. Everyone had the 1/35 chances to win the small TV, everyone had the 1/35 chances to win the BIG tv and everyone had the 1/1225 chance of winning both tvs. In a fair draw, everyone would have had the same crazy odds of winning both TVs.


But two weird things happened:

1: Someone won the double TV combo, which was a super rare freaky chance.
2: That the person who won the incredibly freaky double TV combo just so happens to be the woman's boyfriend.



"there's no more reason to be suspicious about this than any other result that happened apart from the fact it's more rustling because it's the two high value options"


You trolling cookie? You are saying there's no more reason to be suspicious about this than any other result? You think if Charlie the mechanic had won the scooby doo doll + the big TV, is just as suspicios as if the woman in charge of the draw's boyfriend had won the two TVs?


Really rustling me with all the "i get it now" posts followed by a paragraph where you show you clearly dont get it yet lmao.

35 different prize combinations, only 1 GOAT combination with the 34 other combinations being "meh". Reason why everyone with common sense suspects is that the most valuable combination happened, and the winner was her boyfriend. out of all 35 people.
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Well once all the raffle tickets are drawn for 33 of the prizes, it's a 50% chance you win.. amirite??!
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That was completely uncalled for.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
lold. Always fuk up the his and hers. I was rustled though so was typing all emotional and ****




Just when i think you finally get it, you post confusing **** like this that makes me think "fuk this gay earth" lmao.


Yes, everyone at the start had an equal chance to win all the combos. Everyone had the 1/35 chances to win the small TV, everyone had the 1/35 chances to win the BIG tv and everyone had the 1/1225 chance of winning both tvs. In a fair draw, everyone would have had the same crazy odds of winning both TVs.


But two weird things happened:

1: Someone won the double TV combo, which was a super rare freaky chance.
2: That the person who won the incredibly freaky double TV combo just so happens to be the woman's boyfriend.
1. The same freaky rare chance as any other combo
2. You're right on that which is why I said I think we all agree that a neutral party should've been chosen to avoid the situation.
"there's no more reason to be suspicious about this than any other result that happened apart from the fact it's more rustling because it's the two high value options"


You trolling cookie? You are saying there's no more reason to be suspicious about this than any other result? You think if Charlie the mechanic had won the scooby doo doll + the big TV, is just as suspicios as if the woman in charge of the draw's boyfriend had won the two TVs?
Odds wise, no. But obviously it does look more suspicious as I've already stated.
Really rustling me with all the "i get it now" posts followed by a paragraph where you show you clearly dont get it yet lmao.

35 different prize combinations, only 1 GOAT combination with the 34 other combinations being "meh". Reason why everyone with common sense suspects is that the most valuable combination happened, and the winner was her boyfriend. out of all 35 people.
I do get all of that. I've tried to state I get all of that, but apparently I make no sense lmao. I think it's a combo of me not being able to explain myself very well, and starting off in the position where I was coming at it from the wrong angle and not getting it all.

We should leave this now, as I do understand what you are saying at this point, so you are not going to be able to explain it any further.

Let's just agree that someone else should've been drawing it so that if this happened it doesn't look as suspicious lmao
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I think at this point, we need to take back all the prizes and draw again. 1225x1225= only a 1 in 1,500,625 chance the BF will win the TV combo AGAIN. At that point, you can be sure she's cheating.
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Cookiefiend, if you didn't have high rep power (which dissuades people from negging you for fear of repercussions), there's about a 1/1225 chance you would still be green by now. Holy fuck
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Originally Posted By Layne205⏩
I think at this point, we need to take back all the prizes and draw again. 1225x1225= only a 1 in 1,500,625 chance the BF will win the TV combo AGAIN. At that point, you can be sure she's cheating.
Nah man wouldnt be that weird, same chance as someone winning the 4 staplers, basically everyone has the same odds, so potato.
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Originally Posted By omg_otters⏩
Cookiefiend, if you didn't have high rep power (which dissuades people from negging you for fear of repercussions), there's about a 1/1225 chance you would still be green by now. Holy fuck
Lmao, I did get just the one neg. If people wanted to neg train me though they would, it's happened before. I don't neg back so have at it if you want. I'd still probably be green, but what can you do.

I've agreed to drop it now anyway and just agree on the one thing we both definitely understand each other in. A peace offering as such since we're not going to get anywhere else
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Originally Posted By omg_otters⏩
Cookiefiend, if you didn't have high rep power (which dissuades people from negging you for fear of repercussions), there's about a 1/1225 chance you would still be green by now. Holy fuck
Exactly. Which is why the whole rep system is useless.
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend⏩
Lmao, I did get just the one neg. If people wanted to neg train me though they would, it's happened before. I don't neg back so have at it if you want. I'd still probably be green, but what can you do.

I've agreed to drop it now anyway and just agree on the one thing we both definitely understand each other in. A peace offering as such since we're not going to get anywhere else
There's a 1/35 chance ill neg you babe.

Theres a 1/1 chance idgaf about your rep power.


Chances of you making a good sandwich? I assume they are as good as the chances of the woman's boyfriend winning the deck of cards and stapler combo, which it was basically a 1/10000000000 chance
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
There's a 1/35 chance ill neg you babe.

Theres a 1/1 chance idgaf about your rep power.


Chances of you making a good sandwich? I assume they are as good as the chances of the woman's boyfriend winning the deck of cards and stapler combo, which it was basically a 1/10000000000 chance
Technically that would be a 0% chance since that combo wasn't on offer.
I know you probably don't care about my rep power, neither do I, just responding to the guy saying that the only reason people aren't negging more is because they're scared. Those people can do it, I don't neg back.
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Originally Posted By Layne205⏩
Exactly. Which is why the whole rep system is useless.
LOL. Someone having a higher rep power than me isnotgoing to dissuade me from negging them if they are dead wrong. Would rather speak my mind than hoard little colored boxes on the internet...
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So is it 1/34 x 1/34 for the odds of losing since the winner was previously selected?
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