I'm sorry to have to break this to you but Christianity comes from the same place our modern cult problems come from.

Christmas comes from the festival known as Saturnalia

How did this thread end up in some pro-life debate?

Also, for the record, I don't believe in god, I said it in the very first line.

Neither am I saying christianity is virtuous. Its not. I'm saying it created western dominance over the past 400-600 years. How TF is genociding devil-worshipping natives in the name of christ something good?

Also, on that note, christianity is an extremely cleverly designed religion. jesus is some blond haired, blue eyed (i know he's a arab, but bear with me) messiah that loves everyone. He's so loving, and easy to love, that its so easy to think of him as you heavenly father, and kill the infidels in his name. Very easily marketable.

Contrast to any religion, say Taoism. Have you seen Chinese gods? They're in all sorts of weird colours, with long sharp tongues and bulging eyes. Looks scary as fuk, definitely satanic. Look at the mesoamerican ones, not even fukking human, and they demand the hearts of men, pyramids smeared top to bottom in blood.

Yet, christianity has the highest kill count. I don't think its the religion per se, more like its easily marketable, easy to use as casus belli to kill filthy devil worshippers, easy to spread to the local populace and achieve cultural dominance.

Society, dominance and power is all I'm talking about, nothing about which religion is moral, or pro/anti=life, or if it is true or not.

I'm sorry to have to break this to you but Christianity comes from the same place our modern cult problems come from.

When I say our modern problems I'm not talking about homelessness, I'm talking about mystery cults, transgenderism, ritual chid sacrifice, blood drinking and mass orgies which included children.

ROMANS

I'm going to try to make this post condensed but this goes very deep, I'm going to tell you who Jesus prayed to and why you should care

Ouranus is the "Father in Heaven".
Gaia is "Mother Earth".
Their marriage represents the union between Heaven and Earth, "As Above, So Below"

Ouranus hated his Children. He hid them away, returning them deep into the Earth(Gaia's womb).
Gaia resented her Husband, she made a weapon, she asked for help; one answered, two plotted.
Kronos is the youngest of the Titans. Kronos envied his Father's power.

While Heaven is being intimate with Earth, Kronos grabs Ouranus by the balls and castrates him with the weapon made by Gaia, a stone scythe.
The blood that landed upon Earth created Giants, Furies and Nymphs. The "white foam" from Heaven's balls landed on his brother, the Sea(Pontus) and created Aphrodite.
Kronos would take his Fathers place as the Supreme Authority. Kronos' reign as "Father in Heaven" would become known as the "Golden Age" or "Golden Rule"

Rhea is the Wife of Kronos and known as "Mother of the Gods"
Kronos was told he would meet the same fate as his Father at the hands of his Children. Kronos decided to eat his Children at birth. Rhea grows resentful after he consumes the 5th Child.
Rhea and Gaia plot against Kronos to save her 6th Child, the 6th Child is Zeus, the 6th Child would be the one to overthrow Kronos.
When Zeus was born Rhea switched him with a stone wrapped in swaddling clothes which Kronos ate. Zeus was then put in the custody of Earth.
When Zeus reached maturity he confronted his father. Zeus gave Kronos an emetic which caused him to vomit Demeter, Hera, Hades, Poseiden and Hestia.
Zeus killed Kampe in Tartarus then released the Kyklopes and Hekatonkheires. They made Zeus thunderbolts, Poseidon the trident and Hades a helmet.
Thunderbolts for the Sky God, a fishing spear for the Sea God and a helmet for the God of Hell. They overthrew Kronos in a great war known as the "Titanomachy".
It is said Kronos went on to rule Elysium which was also known as "Fortunate Isles". Fortunate Isles is "Paradise". See the movie "The Island" for a cinematic rep.
Kronos is the Ruler of Paradise.





That is Saturn, he is the Roman equivalent of Kronos and he comes with the same back story, except it was his 3rd son that overthrew him. That is Saturn eating his children, he had a cult following.
This story of castrating the Father, the Father eating the children and the Son overthrowing the father does not originate with the Greeks and Romans, it comes from Mesopotamia.
Cube of Saturn - Saturnalia - Human sacrifice - The numbers I mention are important(3rd Son, 6th Son, ect) but I wont get into that now.

Saturnalia was a large festival in Rome to honor the God, Saturn.
The festival features gambling, drinking, dancing, music and an exchange of gag gifts.
Unfortunately the festival also included transgenderism, ritual child sacrifice, blood drinking, magick and mass orgies which included children.



Jupiter or "Jove" is Zeus' Roman equivalent. Jove is also known as "Luppiter"



Seal of Solomon

King Solomon built temples to Chomosh.

Chomosh is also known as Ashtar-Chemosh and Chemosh-Melek. These figures were associated with Ashtarte(Inanna/Aphrodite) and Moloch(Baal - Adon). Moloch is associated with child sacrifice and Yahweh carries the title Melek, some say YWH and MLK are one in the same. Adoni means "Lord". Adonis was Aphrodite's lover, Zeus ordered Adonis to spend 1/3rd of the year in the Underworld.

Christmas comes from the festival known as Saturnalia, during this festival gifts were given, children were sacrificed and women and man reversed roles and clothing. Transgenderism is not new.

Feast of the Holy Innocents is actually the Massacre of the Innocents. If you don't know about this yet you will find it highly interesting.

The man who painted:



Is the same man that painted this:



Saturday is God's day.

Shabbat is observed from a few minutes before sunset on Friday evening until theappearance of three stars in the sky on Saturday night.




Complete the end tag to see pics



Oh yeah, Jesus prayed to a Greek God who did not originate in Greece.

No, we are just going to outright legalize it.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...s/house-bill/5

No, patriarchy existed in Europe long before Christianity. Patriarchy originates from the Indo-Europeans who invaded around 2500BC.

The renaissance happened in spite of Christianity not because of it. It was a resurgence of pre-Christian thinking.

Christianity is submission to a foreign culture.

I agree that modern atheism is a problem but so is Christianity.

How so?

Christianity preaches equality. Modern leftism is a highly distilled form of Christianity, and wouldn't exist without it.

So you took unrelated pieces of mythology, art and religion, randomly threw them in a cauldron and then came up with a soup of nonsense.
I thought you were going to say something good about Phoenicia and the Canaan people tbh ...

https://www.stolenhistory.org/thread...n-cathay.2174/
https://www.stolenhistory.org/thread...-do-today.153/

Now these are two threads that get your mind going ^
There's a chance they are bulllchit but the amount of effort those people put into documenting their findings makes it worth the time reading them.

And also this guy makes a good case:
http://mileswmathis.com/phoenper.pdf
http://mileswmathis.com/tartar.pdf

Idk about all that.

I think it would have been the "God" made out of El and Yahweh...

https://www.theosophical.org/news/da...he-great-angel

Barker disagrees, saying that the Deuteronomic history was written by innovators who radically altered the Jewish religion and rewrote history to reflect their views. Moreover, the Josianic "reform" of 621 was itself a radical restructuring of the faith. Up to that time, she suggests, the Israelites had worshipped a trinity of gods: El, the high, absolute God; Yahweh, the national god of Israel ; and Asherah, Yahweh's consort. Contrary to what the current version of the Bible says, worship of this trinity was not an aberration, but the nation's standard religion up to that time. The Deuteronomic reform purged the goddess Asherah and conflated El with Yahweh, so that the national god of Israel was now equated with the high God. Monotheism as we know it was born.

Monotheism, worship of God, devolved into polytheism and paganism. The Bible talks about this. So from that perspective it's the other way around. A departure or devolution in people's worship of the Abrahamic God malformed into polytheism and cults. Christianity is God's attempt at bringing these people back to the proper form of worship and knowledge. The Bible and history illustrates this.



Christmas is the celebration of Jesus' birth. Saturnalia was established after early Christians recognized Dec. 25th as the day Jesus was born. Saturnalia doesn't even occur on Christmas day. Saturnalia ends on December 23, two days before Christmas. But the date that early Christians recognized as the birth day of Jesus occurs precisely on Dec. 25th. And Christians recognize Christmas as the birth of Jesus, not of a planet.

Well it's inevitable because Christianity is false.

Idk about all that.

I think it would have been the "God" made out of El and Yahweh...

https://www.theosophical.org/news/da...he-great-angel

Barker disagrees, saying that the Deuteronomic history was written by innovators who radically altered the Jewish religion and rewrote history to reflect their views. Moreover, the Josianic "reform" of 621 was itself a radical restructuring of the faith. Up to that time, she suggests, the Israelites had worshipped a trinity of gods: El, the high, absolute God; Yahweh, the national god of Israel ; and Asherah, Yahweh's consort. Contrary to what the current version of the Bible says, worship of this trinity was not an aberration, but the nation's standard religion up to that time. The Deuteronomic reform purged the goddess Asherah and conflated El with Yahweh, so that the national god of Israel was now equated with the high God. Monotheism as we know it was born.

Yea..all that mythical nonsense falls apart as we see Revelations literally happening before our eyes.

Yea..all that mythical nonsense falls apart as we see Revelations literally happening before our eyes.

Literally every Christian before you since Revelations was written believed the same.

The bible is based on pagan religious practices. The Holy Trinity being a key example.

Christmas may be the celebration of the birth of Christ now but it actually started with Adam according to the Jews. Saturnalia predates Christ.